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Renew gold
Tatum2
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2015-01-15 2:17 PM
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What are your guys' thoughts/experiences with the feed? Did you make the switch? also, do you feed any supplements with it?
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-01-15 2:23 PM
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DO a search on google for " Renew Gold Barrel Horse World" and you will see pages and pages of reading. This has been discussed almost weekly for the past couple years...
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-01-16 1:16 AM
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 I just ordered my first bag :D Super excited.
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-01-16 5:56 AM
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My picky eater eats it like I eat midgie tootsie rolls.... yum yum.
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Timber Creek
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2015-01-16 6:24 AM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-16 1:16 AM

 I just ordered my first bag :D Super excited.

Where did you order from?
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-01-16 7:22 AM
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 My gelding is on it and has been on it for a month.  I feed 1 lb a day and besides alfalfa hay and Bermuda grass hay, he gets a mineral salt lick.  
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-16 8:47 AM
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Love it. Only think my ulcer prone mare hasn't gone off of in years and my hard keeper only gets 1.5lbs a day.
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Tatum2
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2015-01-16 8:59 AM
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Thanks all for your input!
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-01-16 9:20 AM
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Have 3 horses currently on it.  13 y/o open horse & yearling - 1/2 pound RG 1/2 Pound Blue Seal Performance, twice a day.  I feed timothy hay, and I add a joint supplement and Smart Gut. BEST result - 31 year old cushings horse lost almost 200 pounds. Added 1/2 pound twice daily - amazing he put the weight all back on! We thought we would have to put him down. I figured the cost what I used to feed compared to changing to RG & lowing other grain intake. I saved almost .60 cents per day! PLUS I pay premium for RG $50.00 per bag. YOU WON'T regret it!
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-01-16 9:22 AM
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I have two geldings on it.  I love it.  One gelding gets no supplements (he's a companion horse) and the other gets Vit. E, THE Muslce Mass and Forco with his.  Both have access to a mineral block. 
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mlh0972
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2015-01-16 10:51 AM
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Where does everyone order from?
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RaNdI sUe
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2015-01-16 11:38 AM
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I get mine from Tractor Supply.  It took some presistance on the part of the sales rep at Renew Gold and myself, but once we started talking to the correct person who actually ordered the grain (the store manager is an idiot!) we were good to go.

The sales rep at Renew Gold though was fantastic, and a HUGE HUGE help.  Without all of her help through e-mails, phone calls, and even calling the store, I don't think I would have actually switched because of the headache.


 
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-01-16 2:05 PM
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I have it special ordered from my local feed store. They can get Manna Pro who distributes it.

 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-01-16 11:24 PM
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Timber Creek - 2015-01-16 6:24 AM

cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-16 1:16 AM

 I just ordered my first bag :D Super excited.

Where did you order from?

  Tractor Supply. I talked to the manager and he'll order it whenever I need some. I talked to one of the reps from Manna Pro and she told me within the last 6ish months TSC stayed allowing more stores around the country to order it.
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-01-17 8:07 AM
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Are they special ordering it for you or also stocking it in the store? What is the price you pay? Wondering if its worth while for me to see if I can have my local TS order it if its cheaper.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-01-17 8:58 AM
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Mainer-racer - 2015-01-17 8:07 AM

Are they special ordering it for you or also stocking it in the store? What is the price you pay? Wondering if its worth while for me to see if I can have my local TS order it if its cheaper.

  The manager at my store said they try to keep a bag on hand, but if you want more than that he just adds it to his order and said he'd give me a call when it's in. No special pricing for me at least. If you have trouble with your store you can talk to Manna Pro directly and see if they can help you out.
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-01-17 10:16 AM
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I really want to try some but especially for a couple of my older girls...I can't get it up here UGHHH :( I spoke with a rep and they aren't approved to ship to Ontario at least from what they told me.
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J Cunningham
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2015-01-17 10:51 AM
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ndiehl - 2015-01-17 8:16 AM

I really want to try some but especially for a couple of my older girls...I can't get it up here UGHHH :( I spoke with a rep and they aren't approved to ship to Ontario at least from what they told me.

Don't give up yet! We are working to get Renew Gold into Canada as soon as possible. I'm starting on the west coast, but, fingers crossed, you will soon be able to get it from your local feed store.

Edited by J Cunningham 2015-01-17 10:52 AM
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-01-17 12:32 PM
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Mainer-racer - 2015-01-16 9:20 AM Have 3 horses currently on it.  13 y/o open horse & yearling - 1/2 pound RG 1/2 Pound Blue Seal Performance, twice a day.  I feed timothy hay, and I add a joint supplement and Smart Gut. BEST result - 31 year old cushings horse lost almost 200 pounds. Added 1/2 pound twice daily - amazing he put the weight all back on! We thought we would have to put him down. I figured the cost what I used to feed compared to changing to RG & lowing other grain intake. I saved almost .60 cents per day! PLUS I pay premium for RG $50.00 per bag. YOU WON'T regret it!

 Holy cow! I just bought a bag for $27.
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-17 4:46 PM
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I love it. I started feeding it to my two about 6-8 weeks ago. My fat girl with the big belly has slimmed down and my hard keeper has filled out more. They eat it right up! Matter of fact, both of them stand there for a few minutes after they are done eating and lick their feed bowl . . . seriously. Then they look at me like, "Mom, can we have more?"
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express52
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-01-17 4:53 PM
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Griz,where did you buy your Renew Gold?
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-01-17 5:34 PM
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 I pay $31 for my bag which is pretty standard.  It lasts a month on my 1 horse.
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-01-17 6:41 PM
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I love Renew Gold! Works great on all horses. I have everything from weanlings to senior horses and they all eat it and look great. Also feed alfalfa pellets and cubes and free choice coastal hay.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-01-17 7:29 PM
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 Love it, Tractor Supply-$29.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-17 7:32 PM
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I get mine at Tractor Supply in Edmond, OK for $29. My local feed store is a little family owned place and they get it for $29 from their dealer.
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-01-18 8:36 AM
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thats what kinda chaps my arse about it... price can range from $29 a bag to $48 a bag. I know its all about where you live right? not really because I can get it from two places in my town about 15 miles apart... one charges $48 and one charges $39...
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-01-18 10:41 AM
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I think depends on the store. Tractor Supply is 29 when you can get it. At the other feed store it's 38., but they always carry it.
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-01-18 11:03 AM
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geronabean - 2015-01-18 9:36 AM thats what kinda chaps my arse about it... price can range from $29 a bag to $48 a bag. I know its all about where you live right? not really because I can get it from two places in my town about 15 miles apart... one charges $48 and one charges $39...

 
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-01-18 11:04 AM
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Griz - 2015-01-17 1:32 PM
Mainer-racer - 2015-01-16 9:20 AM Have 3 horses currently on it.  13 y/o open horse & yearling - 1/2 pound RG 1/2 Pound Blue Seal Performance, twice a day.  I feed timothy hay, and I add a joint supplement and Smart Gut. BEST result - 31 year old cushings horse lost almost 200 pounds. Added 1/2 pound twice daily - amazing he put the weight all back on! We thought we would have to put him down. I figured the cost what I used to feed compared to changing to RG & lowing other grain intake. I saved almost .60 cents per day! PLUS I pay premium for RG $50.00 per bag. YOU WON'T regret it!
 Holy cow! I just bought a bag for $27.

I should purchase from you!
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-01-18 4:19 PM
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I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!!!! I feed it to my HARD KEEPING AND HOT horse - and he is fat (for him), shiny, and NOT a lunatic. I feed about 1.5 lbs per day of RG - he is a BIG horse, and hard keeping, so I use a bit extra. He gets alfalfa and all the beautiful green grass he can put in his belly. Along with the RG, he is on Silver Lining herbs and a mineral supplement. I have never seen such wonderful results from anything else. His coat is SO shiny and soft, he is as fat as he will ever be (he's an OTTQH and is just a svelte guy), and most awesomely of all - he isn't crazy. :)

I order mine through my local feed store for about $30 a bag.
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dreamin
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2015-01-18 8:14 PM
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I started using it 90 days ago. Love it. Horses look better. I buy it at Shawnee Feed Center $33.50
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-01-19 5:23 AM
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express52 - 2015-01-17 4:53 PM Griz,where did you buy your Renew Gold?

CW Feeds. 
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-01-22 6:55 PM
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If you live in the Mid-West and have an Orscheln Farm and Home store in your area you can help by asking them for Renew Gold. They have been looking into bringing it in, and request from customers really helps make up their mind. This has helped Tractor Supply expand the number of stores that carry it. We hope to see pretty complete national coverage by summer. Asking the store for it really helps that happen.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-01-22 8:42 PM
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You do have to find the right person at Tractor Supply as the others will tell you they can't get it.. Ask specifically for the person that orders their grain.
 
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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-01-22 9:11 PM
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I fed it and mmmm it was alright. I didn't really notice any difference with my mare but I just do not know what my mare is needing. I just can't get the top line and bloom on her like I want. She gets beet pulp, vit/min supplement and FORCO and I was feeding renew gold but recently switched to purine strategy healthy edge. I was hoping the FORCO was going to put that top line and bloom on her but it didn't but I'm still going to feed it as I think it's a wonderful supplement. I'm planning to start her on a pure lysine supplement and see if that is the thing she is missing.
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Crooks
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2015-01-22 10:42 PM
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Just ordered for $29.99 for 30lb thru TSC. Had to talk to manager to get it ordered and I have to preorder 10 days out. Eager to try it.
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Timber Creek
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2015-01-23 8:21 AM
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Iwish - 2015-01-22 9:11 PM I fed it and mmmm it was alright. I didn't really notice any difference with my mare but I just do not know what my mare is needing. I just can't get the top line and bloom on her like I want. She gets beet pulp, vit/min supplement and FORCO and I was feeding renew gold but recently switched to purine strategy healthy edge. I was hoping the FORCO was going to put that top line and bloom on her but it didn't but I'm still going to feed it as I think it's a wonderful supplement. I'm planning to start her on a pure lysine supplement and see if that is the thing she is missing.

I did put one horse on pure Lysine last year because of the EHV stuff.  I happened to look at a picture of him from the summer before and you could really tell a difference.   
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-01-23 8:41 AM
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Timber Creek - 2015-01-23 8:21 AM

Iwish - 2015-01-22 9:11 PM I fed it and mmmm it was alright. I didn't really notice any difference with my mare but I just do not know what my mare is needing. I just can't get the top line and bloom on her like I want. She gets beet pulp, vit/min supplement and FORCO and I was feeding renew gold but recently switched to purine strategy healthy edge. I was hoping the FORCO was going to put that top line and bloom on her but it didn't but I'm still going to feed it as I think it's a wonderful supplement. I'm planning to start her on a pure lysine supplement and see if that is the thing she is missing.

I did put one horse on pure Lysine last year because of the EHV stuff.  I happened to look at a picture of him from the summer before and you could really tell a difference.   

If your horse has a stoic personality, check your saddle fit. Also, can he eat alfalfa? If you call winwillows or pm him, he will get back to you with really good advice. I had your problem and by following his recommendations my gelding who hasn't had a decent topline in several years looks amazing now. It did not happen in a week, or even a month. It took a couple months for him to get his topline back. I fully believe that just supplements can't get it back. My saddle did not fit even though my horse was working for me and not showing signs of ill fit at saddling time. Changing my saddle, feeding Renew Gold, and floating his teeth have made a huge difference. He was not scheduled to need a float for a couple of months, but after talking to winwillows, I got it done.
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-01-23 9:55 AM
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Nevertooold - 2015-01-22 9:42 PM

You do have to find the right person at Tractor Supply as the others will tell you they can't get it.. Ask specifically for the person that orders their grain.
 

This is sooooooo true! I called and got a great guy at TS and he called his distributor and they said no as he would be the only store in New England to get it. He even tried to get me to order it online to have it delivered to the store and it wouldn't let me do it. He really tried and I appreciated that. I just wish if a chain was going to supply an item - ex. Renew Gold - make it available to every TS store. The place that I usually get it from says its on back order with their company and don't know when it will come in. It's very frustrating!
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-01-23 10:54 AM
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Renew Gold is not on back order from us to any distributor. Tractor Supply is frustrating, but moving forward slowly. If you have problems getting it, in most cases we can help if you call us. 530-934-9300. In all honesty, some stores forget to order it and just blame the distributor.
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Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2015-02-28 11:05 AM
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I stopped in TSC in Wichita for other things and happened to walk over to the feed. They had 2 bags discounted of Renew Gold, one bag had a slight tear, but they got it by accident was the remark. So naturally I snapped them up in a hurry at 22 a bag! I told them that they actually should carry the product as I had inquired about it before with them.
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theerebel
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2015-03-02 9:44 AM
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I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-03-02 10:16 AM
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theerebel - 2015-03-02 9:44 AM

I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.
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theerebel
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2015-03-02 10:33 AM
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theerebel - 2015-03-02 9:44 AM

I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.

Thank you so much Win! I knew you would have the answer I was needing and I was thinking when the whole diet is balanced, that the O3/O6 would be where it needs to be. We have been feeding the recommended ratio of RG for horses/workload, (1lb a day. We don't ride much in winter so they aren't doing much right now) and they get 3rd cutting high quality alfalfa, free choice mineral, and are out on pasture unless the weather is bad. So far they seem to really be doing well.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-03-02 11:43 AM
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theerebel - 2015-03-02 10:33 AM

winwillows - 2015-03-02 10:16 AM

theerebel - 2015-03-02 9:44 AM

I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.

Thank you so much Win! I knew you would have the answer I was needing and I was thinking when the whole diet is balanced, that the O3/O6 would be where it needs to be. We have been feeding the recommended ratio of RG for horses/workload, (1lb a day. We don't ride much in winter so they aren't doing much right now) and they get 3rd cutting high quality alfalfa, free choice mineral, and are out on pasture unless the weather is bad. So far they seem to really be doing well.

This is a chronic issue when formulating feed products for horses. Do you make what the horse needs, or make what the horse owners think they should see on the label based on everyone else's hype of the product that they want to sell. Biotin in hoof products is a good example of this. Everyone judges hoof products by the amount of biotin they contain, but there are more important factors than that. Adding more Omega 3 is very important if you feed a significant amount of grain based feeds in your diet because they are very high in Omega 6. If this is the diet you feed, then this should be important to you. The Renew Gold diets are not designed this way. If you do not feed those high grain rations, and give the horse a way to provide a higher percentage of its energy from the forage that it eats, the added Omega 3 requirements for the diet to be properly balanced are different. In this case, obtaining a proper ratio requires added Omega 3 at a much lower level, because there is so little added Omega 6 in this diet. If the horse owner has the mind set that any Omega 6 in the diet is bad because it encourages inflammation, they run the risk of adding enough Omega 3 to over suppress the needed activity that a proper amount of Omega 6 provides. The take away here is the same that I have always preached, consider the entire diet.
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winwillows - 2015-03-02 11:43 AM

theerebel - 2015-03-02 10:33 AM

winwillows - 2015-03-02 10:16 AM

theerebel - 2015-03-02 9:44 AM

I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.

Thank you so much Win! I knew you would have the answer I was needing and I was thinking when the whole diet is balanced, that the O3/O6 would be where it needs to be. We have been feeding the recommended ratio of RG for horses/workload, (1lb a day. We don't ride much in winter so they aren't doing much right now) and they get 3rd cutting high quality alfalfa, free choice mineral, and are out on pasture unless the weather is bad. So far they seem to really be doing well.

This is a chronic issue when formulating feed products for horses. Do you make what the horse needs, or make what the horse owners think they should see on the label based on everyone else's hype of the product that they want to sell. Biotin in hoof products is a good example of this. Everyone judges hoof products by the amount of biotin they contain, but there are more important factors than that. Adding more Omega 3 is very important if you feed a significant amount of grain based feeds in your diet because they are very high in Omega 6. If this is the diet you feed, then this should be important to you. The Renew Gold diets are not designed this way. If you do not feed those high grain rations, and give the horse a way to provide a higher percentage of its energy from the forage that it eats, the added Omega 3 requirements for the diet to be properly balanced are different. In this case, obtaining a proper ratio requires added Omega 3 at a much lower level, because there is so little added Omega 6 in this diet. If the horse owner has the mind set that any Omega 6 in the diet is bad because it encourages inflammation, they run the risk of adding enough Omega 3 to over suppress the needed activity that a proper amount of Omega 6 provides. The take away here is the same that I have always preached, consider the entire diet.

That makes complete sense! Thank you very much for clarifying, that answered a lot of unspoken questions I had as well. Very good to know!
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I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.

Thank you so much Win! I knew you would have the answer I was needing and I was thinking when the whole diet is balanced, that the O3/O6 would be where it needs to be. We have been feeding the recommended ratio of RG for horses/workload, (1lb a day. We don't ride much in winter so they aren't doing much right now) and they get 3rd cutting high quality alfalfa, free choice mineral, and are out on pasture unless the weather is bad. So far they seem to really be doing well.

This is a chronic issue when formulating feed products for horses. Do you make what the horse needs, or make what the horse owners think they should see on the label based on everyone else's hype of the product that they want to sell. Biotin in hoof products is a good example of this. Everyone judges hoof products by the amount of biotin they contain, but there are more important factors than that. Adding more Omega 3 is very important if you feed a significant amount of grain based feeds in your diet because they are very high in Omega 6. If this is the diet you feed, then this should be important to you. The Renew Gold diets are not designed this way. If you do not feed those high grain rations, and give the horse a way to provide a higher percentage of its energy from the forage that it eats, the added Omega 3 requirements for the diet to be properly balanced are different. In this case, obtaining a proper ratio requires added Omega 3 at a much lower level, because there is so little added Omega 6 in this diet. If the horse owner has the mind set that any Omega 6 in the diet is bad because it encourages inflammation, they run the risk of adding enough Omega 3 to over suppress the needed activity that a proper amount of Omega 6 provides. The take away here is the same that I have always preached, consider the entire diet.

That makes complete sense! Thank you very much for clarifying, that answered a lot of unspoken questions I had as well. Very good to know!

Yes, there is a lot to consider in looking at the whole diet. It is easy to get too focused on one point of one ingredient. That can be important in some cases, and have a different meaning in others.
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I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.

Thank you so much Win! I knew you would have the answer I was needing and I was thinking when the whole diet is balanced, that the O3/O6 would be where it needs to be. We have been feeding the recommended ratio of RG for horses/workload, (1lb a day. We don't ride much in winter so they aren't doing much right now) and they get 3rd cutting high quality alfalfa, free choice mineral, and are out on pasture unless the weather is bad. So far they seem to really be doing well.

This is a chronic issue when formulating feed products for horses. Do you make what the horse needs, or make what the horse owners think they should see on the label based on everyone else's hype of the product that they want to sell. Biotin in hoof products is a good example of this. Everyone judges hoof products by the amount of biotin they contain, but there are more important factors than that. Adding more Omega 3 is very important if you feed a significant amount of grain based feeds in your diet because they are very high in Omega 6. If this is the diet you feed, then this should be important to you. The Renew Gold diets are not designed this way. If you do not feed those high grain rations, and give the horse a way to provide a higher percentage of its energy from the forage that it eats, the added Omega 3 requirements for the diet to be properly balanced are different. In this case, obtaining a proper ratio requires added Omega 3 at a much lower level, because there is so little added Omega 6 in this diet. If the horse owner has the mind set that any Omega 6 in the diet is bad because it encourages inflammation, they run the risk of adding enough Omega 3 to over suppress the needed activity that a proper amount of Omega 6 provides. The take away here is the same that I have always preached, consider the entire diet.

That makes complete sense! Thank you very much for clarifying, that answered a lot of unspoken questions I had as well. Very good to know!

Yes, there is a lot to consider in looking at the whole diet. It is easy to get too focused on one point of one ingredient. That can be important in some cases, and have a different meaning in others.

I know this is an old thread but was reading and have a question. If your only feeding Renew Gold and Alfalfa, hay basically has lost all it's Omega-3's from harvesting correct? So that would make your Omega 3/6 ratio off feeding a RG and Alfalfa diet?
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I recently began feeding RG, so far my horses seem to really like it. We feed a high quality alfalfa hay with it, and they are keeping their weight well, although we are only on week 2, so didn't really expect much change yet....my concern is, recently people have been saying because of the Omega 6 and 3 ratio (it has more Omega 6 than Omega 3) that it can cause body soreness in your horse? Is there any truth to this? Just wondering, thanks for any input!

The O3 / O6 ratio in Renew Gold is where it is for a reason. It is important to look at what total diet is, and not just one ingredient in that diet. When used to replace conventional grain based concentrate feeds, and with a roughage based diet as we recommend, the total overall O3 / O6 ratio of the entire diet will be ideal. Remember, we do not want to completely overwhelm the horses ability to generate inflammation with complete suppression of O6. O6 is an essential fatty acid also, and the body needs it's influence to promote healing in acute injury. Renew Gold functions as a component in the overall health of the horse. Every component in the diet should be considered this way.

Thank you so much Win! I knew you would have the answer I was needing and I was thinking when the whole diet is balanced, that the O3/O6 would be where it needs to be. We have been feeding the recommended ratio of RG for horses/workload, (1lb a day. We don't ride much in winter so they aren't doing much right now) and they get 3rd cutting high quality alfalfa, free choice mineral, and are out on pasture unless the weather is bad. So far they seem to really be doing well.

This is a chronic issue when formulating feed products for horses. Do you make what the horse needs, or make what the horse owners think they should see on the label based on everyone else's hype of the product that they want to sell. Biotin in hoof products is a good example of this. Everyone judges hoof products by the amount of biotin they contain, but there are more important factors than that. Adding more Omega 3 is very important if you feed a significant amount of grain based feeds in your diet because they are very high in Omega 6. If this is the diet you feed, then this should be important to you. The Renew Gold diets are not designed this way. If you do not feed those high grain rations, and give the horse a way to provide a higher percentage of its energy from the forage that it eats, the added Omega 3 requirements for the diet to be properly balanced are different. In this case, obtaining a proper ratio requires added Omega 3 at a much lower level, because there is so little added Omega 6 in this diet. If the horse owner has the mind set that any Omega 6 in the diet is bad because it encourages inflammation, they run the risk of adding enough Omega 3 to over suppress the needed activity that a proper amount of Omega 6 provides. The take away here is the same that I have always preached, consider the entire diet.

That makes complete sense! Thank you very much for clarifying, that answered a lot of unspoken questions I had as well. Very good to know!

Yes, there is a lot to consider in looking at the whole diet. It is easy to get too focused on one point of one ingredient. That can be important in some cases, and have a different meaning in others.

I know this is an old thread but was reading and have a question. If your only feeding Renew Gold and Alfalfa, hay basically has lost all it's Omega-3's from harvesting correct? So that would make your Omega 3/6 ratio off feeding a RG and Alfalfa diet?

While you may lose some Omega 3 from aged hay, you will also lose some Omega 6 as well, and your overall ratios will not be altered too much. Roughage in general is higher in Omega 3 than most people realize. Where you get into an imbalance is when high amounts of grain based feeds that have so much Omega 6 are used in the diet. When the amount of grain is less than 2 or 3 pounds in total per day it is very hard to have high Omega 6 if the diet is based on good hay or pasture. If you are feeding a lot of grain, in the 8 to 10 pound per day range, you are going to have an Omega 3 / Omega 6 issue. Better hay allowing you to reduce or eliminate grain in the diet will clearly fix that issue.
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Thanks for clarification.
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Is this feed ok to feed without any hay? My horse will be on a pasture 24/7 this spring/summer and only hay when he needs it, like being hauled. Was thinking id add alfalfa pellets and whole oats along with the Exceed 6-way that he already gets and access to salt and minerals at all times...i am boarding him right now and in a pasture with 6 other geldings on 30+acres. So i dont have a ton of options. Any thoughts? They all get fed separately.

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During the winter months I feed just hay and RG. In the summer they get pasture and than at night 2 flakes of hay. I don't add any pellets. Mine seem to hold their weight very well. Some people do add the pellets with great results.
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