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Long term calmers
recycledrunners
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2019-02-04 6:49 PM (#7421126)
Subject: Long term calmers




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I'm wondering if there is such a thing a "long term" calmers and or drugs that keep a horse mellow? Bought a horse exactly 6 months ago and within the last 30 days she has totally changed. IE spooky, highly reactive to anything and everything. Nothing has changed since I brought her home and she wasn't this way the first 4+ months.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-02-04 7:52 PM (#7421134 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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ya, there's stuff you can give that last about a month.
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cutnrunqhmt
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2019-02-05 12:34 AM (#7421155 - in reply to #7421126)
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Have you tried adding some magnesium to her diet. I have had a few that got spooky and they were low in Mag once we got them leveled out they became quiet again. It is a cheap thing to try and won't hurt.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2019-02-05 5:58 AM (#7421157 - in reply to #7421134)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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casualdust07 - 2019-02-04 7:52 PM ya, there's stuff you can give that last about a month.

I need this for Calvin, he is soooo spooky  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-02-05 9:00 AM (#7421169 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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Quiessence is a great magnesium supplement to feed, and another one is B1 crumbles..  
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2019-02-05 11:13 AM (#7421177 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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Have you taken the horse to a vet to check for issues, like ulcers or pain issue?  What is your feed compared to what she was fed before?  What sort of exercise did she get before compared to now, is she in a stall or turned out?  Was she with other horses prior and is now alone? Did a buddy die? 

SO many factors can change behavior.  Horses just don't change because they want to...there is something going on.  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-02-05 11:24 AM (#7421178 - in reply to #7421177)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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Nateracer - 2019-02-05 11:13 AM Have you taken the horse to a vet to check for issues, like ulcers or pain issue?  What is your feed compared to what she was fed before?  What sort of exercise did she get before compared to now, is she in a stall or turned out?  Was she with other horses prior and is now alone? Did a buddy die? 



SO many factors can change behavior.  Horses just don't change because they want to...there is something going on.  

I was wondering the same and was going to ask some of these questions that you asked and was wondering if maybe a feed change, maybe a tack change but since she said nothing has changed since she bought her I thought just suggest a supplement.. But to me ulcers can pop up really fast being in a different place and things are different in a new home..
You asked some really good questions 
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ksjackofalltrades
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2019-02-05 11:44 AM (#7421179 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers


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 Some use Resurpine.

 
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Katie's
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2019-02-05 1:25 PM (#7421182 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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OxyGen has a daily pellet called Relax and also a daily pellet called MagSelect.  Let me know if I can help.  
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joemama
Reg. Feb 2018
Posted 2019-02-05 8:01 PM (#7421195 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers


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Vet the horse then desensitize him.
 
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recycledrunners
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2019-02-06 7:49 PM (#7421298 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers




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Great suggestions and questions, thank you.
She has been vetted which revealed nothing major. Chiro was suggested for some reactions in the atlas area. 3 visits so far.
She is currently fed alfalfa 1x day, free choice grass hay, a ration balancer, and magnesium and is out on pasture with 2 others 24/7 unless weather dictates otherwise. When she is stalled, there are 12 x 60 attached pens for in and out access.
I'm assuming she was ridden more with her previous owner, at least during the winter.
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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2019-02-06 8:11 PM (#7421300 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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My 5 year old is on MVP Calmex everyday. I don't use what it says is a full serving, but it takes enough of the edge off that I can get her to chill with more work. She's one thats quiet as a mouse with daily working, but leave her sit and it's like having a toddler that you gave a 2 liter of Mt Dew and locked in a closet for 6 hours lol. It does take most of her anxiety away & allows me to not have to work her down constantly
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Swannranch
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2019-02-11 6:22 PM (#7421935 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers


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  Over the years I have seen horses suddenly change within 6 months. Feeds, even grasses can take a while to have an effect. As well as rider differences. I know of 1 drug thar is long term, Fluphazine I think? I have used it on a horse we own and it was an effective training tool, but only lasted about a month. That was years ago tbough, could be something newer I dont know.I assume your asking if there was something they gave the horse and it calmed her until it wore off. If there is something like that, that lasts 4 ton6 months, it would sell like hotcakes!!!
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SmokinBandits
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-02-16 5:48 PM (#7422531 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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I got a good deal on a real nice mare and I'm sure it was because she was a nervous wreck. She also had a couple of mild colics. It took us a couple of years to figure her out. Regular, calm riding. No rough stuff but she knows we're the boss. We treated her for ulcers and she's on maintenance now including aloe vera juice. Red raspberry leaves. Via Calm daily. Via Calm is the key. I notice a difference when I increase or decrease the dose. I give her 3/4 of a scoop twice a day, a full scoop when vet or farrier comes, and if I was barrel racing her, I'd give her more. I swear by that stuff. And it's cheap. 
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recycledrunners
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2019-02-19 10:33 PM (#7422908 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers




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Thanks for all the ideas to ponder, I appreciate it!

 

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wishingforsun
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2019-02-20 6:44 PM (#7423023 - in reply to #7422908)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers




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I am really liking the combination of Nrf2 Synergizer and Seroquine (Uckele product). My gelding was acting like you described, pretty much out of the blue but not really getting rode much at the time either. He also had terrible separation anxiety which caused him to have a total meltdown. I hadn't made any changes or even taken him off the property, but I wouldn't have been surprised if he had developed ulcers. Anyway, I made a couple tweaks to his diet (added some additional selenium and iodine) but also added 1 pill per day of the Nrf2 and 2 scoops of the Seroquine.  I did the 2 scoops of the seroquine for a week and then went down to 1 scoop. He is acting better than ever. 

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jkrm
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2019-02-20 7:27 PM (#7423024 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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I’d be sure to rule out ulcers, especially hind gut ulcers.  After that I’ve been feeding elite three hemp oil and elite three super cool hemp fibre.  It does help with calming and stomach, recovery. Great product. I use Elite Three company which is Canadian but I would think there are similar hemp companies in the states. 

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camocowgirl
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2019-02-21 10:12 AM (#7423076 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers


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recycledrunners - 2019-02-04 4:49 AM I'm wondering if there is such a thing a "long term" calmers and or drugs that keep a horse mellow? Bought a horse exactly 6 months ago and within the last 30 days she has totally changed. IE spooky, highly reactive to anything and everything. Nothing has changed since I brought her home and she wasn't this way the first 4+ months.


I use herbs. My equine natural care rep figures out what my horse needs. They have a “calming” blend and many other blends. my horse tested for the neuro blend which is for overworked nervous etc type of behavior. :) you could try silver lining herbs. I’ve used them as well. My dog does amazing on their herbs. 

I have used THE calming cookies in the past with good results

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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2019-02-21 11:00 AM (#7423090 - in reply to #7421126)
Subject: RE: Long term calmers



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