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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2021-01-13 1:57 PM
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Who is planning to get the COVID vaccine? Who is not?

Do you think it will eventually be mandatory to travel, go to concerts, or anything else really? Or mandated by the government? 

I'm about 95% sure I'm not going to get it when it's offered to me. 

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FLITASTIC
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I'm a teacher and will need it to keep my job, so yes. 

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Coug
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I do not plan on getting it unless it is required for my job.  I think they are going to force people to get the shot.

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I would like to hear valid reasons people have for NOT getting it. Is it all conspiracy theory? Long term side effects we don't know of? Thanks! 

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I don't even take the flu shot, so....................I also don't think it's been tested long enough.  So, that's my reasoning.

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
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Yes, I will get the vaccine as soon as it's available to me. I am 65. I have a terrible case of adult asthma. I do not want to spend the remainder of my life avoiding society in order to stay alive. I want to get the vaccine and get back into the world -- I want to show my horses -- I want to travel. I have never hesitated to obtain recommended vaccines. I have friends who lost their hearing when the mumps swept through my elementary school; I have lost friends who developed polio in the late 50s and early 60s. I know the power of vaccines. 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-13 2:32 PM
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If people don't want to get the vaccine, that's fine by me.  I got my first vaccine about 9 days ago, and I'll get my second vaccine in 2 weeks. I can only go by what I've read about it and it's pretty exciting to me how they developed it.  The efficacy, in terms of immunity, is 95% and that's pretty amazing.  The unanswered question is how long will it provide adequate protection.  As best as I can tell, it looks like a minimum of 8 months and counting.  I think that's based on antibody titers of those who were vaccinated during the trials last summer.  I wouldn't be surprised to learn this might be like a flu vaccine where annual vaccinations are recommended. I think this is the first vaccine that has been used where mRNA is used and no virus or virus particles are part of it.  The technology and innovation behind these vaccines are amazing to me.  
No, I don't think they are the "mark of the beast", as some claim.  No, they don't contain micro chips, as others claim.  No, they do not change our DNA.  

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No

i don't get the flu shot. the covid death rate is LOW. Among other reasons...
No thanks. 

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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
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No.

I don't take the flu shot either.  

I prefer to let my immune system take care of me at this point in my life.  Also at this point in my life, if I die...Well, fine. 

I'm a teacher.  If they force me...I may consider a different profession.  Especially with the way education is going anyways. 

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scamper
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2021-01-13 2:50 PM
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Nope! Never! I don't take the other vaccines and won't start with this one. I'm in a classroom daily. I'll take my chances with getting it, I live with a few essential workers that have been to hot spots. We are all still alive and still not sick. Sure people are sick, yes it hits others worse than others, but heck so does the flu or any other illness. The death rate for this is low, and according to the cdc numbers from death rates from last year, it hadn't increased. 

The day I'm told I have to have one to have my job I will quit. It is my choice. I tolerate the mask but that is it, but I don't wear it once I leave work either. 

And yes I have steps in motion for another career for if and when I leave my classroom. 



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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
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I have never gotton the Flu shot, so i wont get the covid shot either, I try taking care of myself and try to eat right but sometimes that dont happen, but I do take vits.. I know thats not a cure with eating right and taking Vits, but this is my choice.. I know more then a few that did get the flu shots and that didnt stop them from getting the flu when they got expose to it..

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JcNhEmI
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Posted 2021-01-13 3:00 PM
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I would like to hear valid reasons people have for NOT getting it. Is it all conspiracy theory? Long term side effects we don't know of? Thanks! 


The biggest thing for me is how fast it was developed. I don't think there was enough time for adequate testing. There is no way to know what type of side effects there will be. 

I understand why older people and high risk people would want to get it. I'm 33 and healthy. I'll take my chances, while it's my decision. 

My parents are 64 & 65. Neither of them are planning to get it, my dad is in great health my mom, not so much. I'm on the fence about her getting it. 

My sister is an RN as of now she isn't required to get it at her hospital, but I bet she does sooner than later. As of now she isn't volunteering to get it

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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-13 3:01 PM
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i am 70  not taking but like other i don/t do flue eith  and i have never had flue that i remeber

 

 

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willrodeo4food
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2021-01-13 3:33 PM
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I'm torn.  I don't get a flu shot because I rarely ever get the flu.  That said I don't get colds very often either but when I do they almost always turn in to a wicked case of bronchitis that I have a hard time getting rid of.  That gives me a bit of concern about what covid would do to my body since my lungs react that badly to a cold virus. 

The reason I'm concerned about getting the vaccine is that I've been told that an allergy to penicillin is a contraindication and could cause a reaction to the vaccine.  It's something I feel needs to be discussed with my Dr. before I decide.  But I'd love to hear Bear's opinion on it if he's willing to offer it.

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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-13 3:59 PM
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willrodeo4food - 2021-01-13 3:33 PM

I'm torn.  I don't get a flu shot because I rarely ever get the flu.  That said I don't get colds very often either but when I do they almost always turn in to a wicked case of bronchitis that I have a hard time getting rid of.  That gives me a bit of concern about what covid would do to my body since my lungs react that badly to a cold virus. 

The reason I'm concerned about getting the vaccine is that I've been told that an allergy to penicillin is a contraindication and could cause a reaction to the vaccine.  It's something I feel needs to be discussed with my Dr. before I decide.  But I'd love to hear Bear's opinion on it if he's willing to offer it.

If you have a history of anaphylaxis to any medication, then you shouldn't get the vaccine.  Also, if you have a history of severe, immediate reactions besides anaphylaxis that occur within minutes of receiving any medication you shouldn't get the vaccine.  By that, I mean severe hives (urticaria) or angioedena (swelling of face, lips, tongue, etc..) within minutes of taking a medication or getting a vaccine.  Also if you happen to be allergic to polyethylene glycol you shouldn't receive it. Anaphylaxis is immediate, life threatening swelling that compromises the airway.  That's what epi pens are used for.  If you've had an anaphylactic reaction you know it.  There's nothing specific about penicillin allergy that is a contraindication, unless you've had an anaphylactic reaction.

Most penicillin allergies are things like rashes that come on slowly after taking penicillin.  Some so called "allergies" aren't really allergies.  They are things like upset stomach, vomiting, or diarrhea.  A lot of people were told that they developed a rash after receiving penicillin as an infant or toddler.  A lot of those were not really allergies, but there's no way of knowing for sure.  

Does that help?



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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-13 4:02 PM
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Got my first shot a couple of hours ago.  The only thing bad about it was standing in line waiting for my turn and the amount of time on the computer finding when/where vaccine would be available and booking the slot.  They have given enough shots with very few reactions to convince me that immediate risks are minimal.  As far as possible long term effects, not all that concerned because I am old so I figure I myself an not all that long term.  I know the risks of covid and I choose to mitigate to every extent possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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willrodeo4food
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2021-01-13 5:00 PM
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Bear - 2021-01-13 1:59 PM



willrodeo4food - 2021-01-13 3:33 PM


I'm torn.  I don't get a flu shot because I rarely ever get the flu.  That said I don't get colds very often either but when I do they almost always turn in to a wicked case of bronchitis that I have a hard time getting rid of.  That gives me a bit of concern about what covid would do to my body since my lungs react that badly to a cold virus. 


The reason I'm concerned about getting the vaccine is that I've been told that an allergy to penicillin is a contraindication and could cause a reaction to the vaccine.  It's something I feel needs to be discussed with my Dr. before I decide.  But I'd love to hear Bear's opinion on it if he's willing to offer it.



If you have a history of anaphylaxis to any medication, then you shouldn't get the vaccine.  Also, if you have a history of severe, immediate reactions besides anaphylaxis that occur within minutes of receiving any medication you shouldn't get the vaccine.  By that, I mean severe hives (urticaria) or angioedena (swelling of face, lips, tongue, etc..) within minutes of taking a medication or getting a vaccine.  Also if you happen to be allergic to polyethylene glycol you shouldn't receive it. Anaphylaxis is immediate, life threatening swelling that compromises the airway.  That's what epi pens are used for.  If you've had an anaphylactic reaction you know it.  There's nothing specific about penicillin allergy that is a contraindication, unless you've had an anaphylactic reaction.


Most penicillin allergies are things like rashes that come on slowly after taking penicillin.  Some so called "allergies" aren't really allergies.  They are things like upset stomach, vomiting, or diarrhea.  A lot of people were told that they developed a rash after receiving penicillin as an infant or toddler.  A lot of those were not really allergies, but there's no way of knowing for sure.  


Does that help?


Thanks Bear, that does help.  I don't know that I would call my reaction severe but I was I child and I was tramatized by it .    It was an immediate reaction and there was facial swelling and hives.  so many hives.   I've also had immediate and weird reactions to other antibiotic shots over the years and reactions to oral medications that are a bit outside the norm.   The only vaccine I've had as an adult was tetanus and the only reaction to that was feeling like someone smacked me in the arm with a baseball bat the next day.   I will chat with my Dr.  and if I decide to get the vaccine maybe do it in her office with medical professionals present instead of in the drive through line that is the "norm" here.  

I appreciate your information, it is very helpful.

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Posted 2021-01-13 5:12 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2021-01-13 3:19 PM


I would like to hear valid reasons people have for NOT getting it. Is it all conspiracy theory? Long term side effects we don't know of? Thanks! 


 

 

I don't think there's a conspiracy. Probably not anyway. But this is cutting edge never before used technology and it was rushed through its trials. I don't trust that there isn't going to be many unforseen issues, long term. 

I feel this technology could create a vaccine for cancer and other really bad diseases. It is remarkable and holds a TON of promise for the future.  But it should take years, not months, to get it to the general population. That's where my issue is.

I plan on not taking it. I already had covid and tho it wasn't fun, it didn't kill me either. 

Hoping this is a valid reason, it's all I've got.

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Nateracer
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Posted 2021-01-13 5:36 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2021-01-13 2:19 PM


I would like to hear valid reasons people have for NOT getting it. Is it all conspiracy theory? Long term side effects we don't know of? Thanks! 


This was from the first week per CDC. 

No clue what it is at now. But the rate of something happening is/was higher than dying from Covid. 

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Nateracer
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Posted 2021-01-13 5:47 PM
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Actually, Bear can you look at the chart I posted and clue me in?

What exactly does Pregnancies at time of vaccination mean?  Is it the lady was pregnant or does it mean the vaccine caused instantaneous labor? 

 

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Posted 2021-01-13 5:50 PM
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Right now, I'm saying no.. but I know better than to say I'll never. That being said... I don't take a flu shot either, never had 1 and don't ever plan on getting one any time soon.  I've also never had the flu or any sickness so bad that I was down for more than a day.  I do believe in a strong immune system and trying to keep that up with taking care of my health. Same with my kids ... they had routine vaccines as babies but we don't get them flu shots either. I sure hope they don't try to make these mandatory. I kind of don't see that happening, despite what I've heard and read.  

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euchee
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Posted 2021-01-13 5:55 PM
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Coug - 2021-01-13 2:27 PM


I don't even take the flu shot, so....................I also don't think it's been tested long enough.  So, that's my reasoning.


My exact reasons!

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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2021-01-13 6:01 PM
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want2chase3 - 2021-01-13 5:50 PM

Right now, I'm saying no.. but I know better than to say I'll never. That being said... I don't take a flu shot either, never had 1 and don't ever plan on getting one any time soon.  I've also never had the flu or any sickness so bad that I was down for more than a day.  I do believe in a strong immune system and trying to keep that up with taking care of my health. Same with my kids ... they had routine vaccines as babies but we don't get them flu shots either. I sure hope they don't try to make these mandatory. I kind of don't see that happening, despite what I've heard and read.  

I bet the Dems will try to make it mandatory, I know if you are planning on flying you have to show proof of having the covid shot to board a plane. And Dems are blaming the Republican's for giving them the covid at the Capital last week..The Dems have gone flat out crazy!!!!  



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Bear
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Posted 2021-01-13 6:04 PM
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willrodeo4food - 2021-01-13 5:00 PM


Bear - 2021-01-13 1:59 PM



willrodeo4food - 2021-01-13 3:33 PM


I'm torn.  I don't get a flu shot because I rarely ever get the flu.  That said I don't get colds very often either but when I do they almost always turn in to a wicked case of bronchitis that I have a hard time getting rid of.  That gives me a bit of concern about what covid would do to my body since my lungs react that badly to a cold virus. 


The reason I'm concerned about getting the vaccine is that I've been told that an allergy to penicillin is a contraindication and could cause a reaction to the vaccine.  It's something I feel needs to be discussed with my Dr. before I decide.  But I'd love to hear Bear's opinion on it if he's willing to offer it.



If you have a history of anaphylaxis to any medication, then you shouldn't get the vaccine.  Also, if you have a history of severe, immediate reactions besides anaphylaxis that occur within minutes of receiving any medication you shouldn't get the vaccine.  By that, I mean severe hives (urticaria) or angioedena (swelling of face, lips, tongue, etc..) within minutes of taking a medication or getting a vaccine.  Also if you happen to be allergic to polyethylene glycol you shouldn't receive it. Anaphylaxis is immediate, life threatening swelling that compromises the airway.  That's what epi pens are used for.  If you've had an anaphylactic reaction you know it.  There's nothing specific about penicillin allergy that is a contraindication, unless you've had an anaphylactic reaction.


Most penicillin allergies are things like rashes that come on slowly after taking penicillin.  Some so called "allergies" aren't really allergies.  They are things like upset stomach, vomiting, or diarrhea.  A lot of people were told that they developed a rash after receiving penicillin as an infant or toddler.  A lot of those were not really allergies, but there's no way of knowing for sure.  


Does that help?



Thanks Bear, that does help.  I don't know that I would call my reaction severe but I was I child and I was tramatized by it .    It was an immediate reaction and there was facial swelling and hives.  so many hives.   I've also had immediate and weird reactions to other antibiotic shots over the years and reactions to oral medications that are a bit outside the norm.   The only vaccine I've had as an adult was tetanus and the only reaction to that was feeling like someone smacked me in the arm with a baseball bat the next day.   I will chat with my Dr.  and if I decide to get the vaccine maybe do it in her office with medical professionals present instead of in the drive through line that is the "norm" here.  


I appreciate your information, it is very helpful.


That sounds pretty severe.  Most likely "angioedema" that I described.  If that's the case, I doubt your doctor would recommend it.  I know I wouldn't.

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Posted 2021-01-13 6:05 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-13 6:01 PM



want2chase3 - 2021-01-13 5:50 PM


Right now, I'm saying no.. but I know better than to say I'll never. That being said... I don't take a flu shot either, never had 1 and don't ever plan on getting one any time soon.  I've also never had the flu or any sickness so bad that I was down for more than a day.  I do believe in a strong immune system and trying to keep that up with taking care of my health. Same with my kids ... they had routine vaccines as babies but we don't get them flu shots either. I sure hope they don't try to make these mandatory. I kind of don't see that happening, despite what I've heard and read.  



I bet the Dems will try to make it mandatory, I know if you are planning on flying you have to show proof of having the covid shot to board a plane. And Dems are blaming the Republican's for giving them the covid at the Capital last week..The Dems have gone flat out crazy!!!!  


I thought that you just had to have a neg. covid test result to fly, not a record of the shot

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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2021-01-13 6:21 PM
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euchee - 2021-01-13 6:05 PM


Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-13 6:01 PM



want2chase3 - 2021-01-13 5:50 PM


Right now, I'm saying no.. but I know better than to say I'll never. That being said... I don't take a flu shot either, never had 1 and don't ever plan on getting one any time soon.  I've also never had the flu or any sickness so bad that I was down for more than a day.  I do believe in a strong immune system and trying to keep that up with taking care of my health. Same with my kids ... they had routine vaccines as babies but we don't get them flu shots either. I sure hope they don't try to make these mandatory. I kind of don't see that happening, despite what I've heard and read.  



I bet the Dems will try to make it mandatory, I know if you are planning on flying you have to show proof of having the covid shot to board a plane. And Dems are blaming the Republican's for giving them the covid at the Capital last week..The Dems have gone flat out crazy!!!!  



I thought that you just had to have a neg. covid test result to fly, not a record of the shot


I think you are right, I saw this on the news today which makes sense if you are flying abroad, The Vaccine will be required to travel abroad, since the vaccine just became available it can be several months befor we see needing a vaccine as a requirement to fly commercial. 

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Nateracer - 2021-01-13 5:47 PM

Actually, Bear can you look at the chart I posted and clue me in?

What exactly does Pregnancies at time of vaccination mean?  Is it the lady was pregnant or does it mean the vaccine caused instantaneous labor? 

 

Well these "health impact events" reflect people who experience flu like symptoms, usually lasting less than a day following a Covid vaccine.  You see this with other vaccines as well, including influenza.  Some of these people might miss a day of work due to those side effects.  As much as 15% of the vaccine recipients have one or more troublesome symptoms seen with flu, very rarely lasting more than a day.  I've had some people tell me they felt aching all over (myalgias) or headaches that lasted say half a day.  On this table, which is 3 weeks old now, less than 3% of those vaccinated had significant symptoms to the extent they were out of commission for probably a day. The vast majority of people just have a sore arm for a day or two, like with other vaccines.
As far as pregnancy goes, they haven't studied the vaccine in pregnancy, but they do not consider pregnancy a contraindication to getting the vaccine, if someone wants it.   Those 514 people who were pregnant at the time of vaccination were probably discovered to be pregnant after they were vaccinated.  The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology does not feel a woman should be advised against vaccination if they are pregnant, but the bottom line is that until we have a prospective trial that looks at vaccinating women during pregnancy, we can't be absolutely certain that it is safe.  To my way of thinking, the vaccine is most important to the most vulnerable, first and foremost.....over 65, COPD, heart disease, history of cancer, immune suppressed, etc.....  The risk to life in women from Covid of child bearing age is extremely low.  



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Most of my family is in health care directly working in hospitals as nurses, hospital intake staff, or is a CRNA (my dad). At least four cousins, my dad, and both of my sisters have received at least one round of the vaccine.  I plan to get the vaccine as soon as its available to me.  I don't buy into the conspiracies, I understand how vaccines work, and I am OK with the risk of an adverse reaction.  So far of my 8-10 family members who have received it, one complained of a sore arm for a day and my little sister had a mild fever for two days but was otherwise fine.   I have had too many close calls with clients where the visit is halfway over, I've been working all over their horse as they hold it, and then they mention they're getting over covid. 

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I dont care if there is conspiracies are not, I have never gotton the flu shot so not planning on getting a covid vaccine either.. 

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Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-13 8:04 PM


I dont care if there is conspiracies are not, I have never gotton the flu shot so not planning on getting a covid vaccine either.. 


but youve had other vaccines right? 

 

I wouldn't compare this vaccine to the flu shot, but to all the other vaccines that most of us have received throughout our lifetime. 

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Southtxponygirl - 2021-01-13 8:04 PM


I dont care if there is conspiracies are not, I have never gotton the flu shot so not planning on getting a covid vaccine either.. 



but youve had other vaccines right? 


 


I wouldn't compare this vaccine to the flu shot, but to all the other vaccines that most of us have received throughout our lifetime. 


Well sure 50 plus years ago, lol..

I'm glad that they come up with a vaccine for the Covid, it well make alot of people feel good and safe when they receive it and I'm happy for them all, but I just dont feel like its for me and thats my choice, but I sure hope and pray that the ones that do get it wont feel so threaten by this horrible virus anymore.. This is something we have been waiting for, and I think President Trump did a great job getting the vaccine out there as fast as he did.

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I'm an RN and received mine 2 weeks ago. My arm was a bit sore for a day or so. I had no other side effects. 

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California just opened up tier 2, so all teachers can get theirs now. My school site happens to be one location in our county. So I guess as of today I can get mine. All appointments were booked first few days out because of the rush. Lol 

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I dont care if there is conspiracies are not, I have never gotton the flu shot so not planning on getting a covid vaccine either.. 



 


I wouldn't compare this vaccine to the flu shot, but to all the other vaccines that most of us have received throughout our lifetime. 


why?

 

 

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Im a PT and my husband a MD.  Both got our 2nd vaccine yesterday.  We had the one by Pfizer.  All we had was a little soreness from injection.  No side affects.  My husband got covid in early December after diagnosing patients since this began.  Do what's best for you but wanted to share we did 1st and 2nd without any problems.  My daughter, 18, was able to get one. The first one no problem with her, the 2nd is next week-fingers crossed.

I will say some of his office staff got the 1st Moderna and had headaches and vomiting after.  Hope it was just them. I was happy with how Pfizer did and hope we are protected.

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Johnson & Johnson has just come up the plan for a one-dose shot that doesn't need the low degree temperature for storage the others now in effect do.  Should be ready to go by the end of January.  Just saw this on FOX from Dr. Seigel.

 

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I would like to hear valid reasons people have for NOT getting it. Is it all conspiracy theory? Long term side effects we don't know of? Thanks! 

I am married to Wonderful Woman who is a RN, MSN, with thirty five years experience, and a whole bunch of alphabetial names that I cannot pronounce. That was to estashblish her and my credentials, Anyway, Her belief is the research and testing was extensive enough nor long enough to a window of sorts into the long term effects of this medical vaccine. I am not planning on taking this vaccine for a myriad of reasons. The first and foremost is that Covid 19 aka Corona Virus has a survivabilty rate of 99+%.



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Right now, I'm saying no.. but I know better than to say I'll never. That being said... I don't take a flu shot either, never had 1 and don't ever plan on getting one any time soon.  I've also never had the flu or any sickness so bad that I was down for more than a day.  I do believe in a strong immune system and trying to keep that up with taking care of my health. Same with my kids ... they had routine vaccines as babies but we don't get them flu shots either. I sure hope they don't try to make these mandatory. I kind of don't see that happening, despite what I've heard and read.  



I bet the Dems will try to make it mandatory, I know if you are planning on flying you have to show proof of having the covid shot to board a plane. And Dems are blaming the Republican's for giving them the covid at the Capital last week..The Dems have gone flat out crazy!!!!  



I thought that you just had to have a neg. covid test result to fly, not a record of the shot


I didn't think you have to have a negative COVID test to fly within the United States. Some states and countries require it for entry. 

But starting on the 26th the CDC has said you have to have a negative covid test to within 72 hours of flying into the US from other countries. 

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0112-negative-covid-19-air-passengers.html

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I dont care if there is conspiracies are not, I have never gotton the flu shot so not planning on getting a covid vaccine either.. 



 


I wouldn't compare this vaccine to the flu shot, but to all the other vaccines that most of us have received throughout our lifetime. 



why?


 


 


Well, people seem to fixate on comparing the covid vaccine to the flu vaccine and then say well since i dont get the flu vaccine, i wont get the covid vaccine.. But why just pick that vaccine to compare it to, when most everyone on this forum received other vaccines in their lifetime. So, I'm just saying.. why pick the one vaccine you choose not to get as your reasoning to not get another vaccine?  The flu virus is a notoriously difficult virus to vaccinate against, as it has ton of strains that mix and mutate every year. The vaccine is modified each year to try and guess which strain will be the most virulent and then make a vaccine to fight that presumed strain. Some years they are right, some years they are wrong.   Whereas the technology and mechanism of action of the covid vaccine is completely different. 

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I dont care if there is conspiracies are not, I have never gotton the flu shot so not planning on getting a covid vaccine either.. 



 


I wouldn't compare this vaccine to the flu shot, but to all the other vaccines that most of us have received throughout our lifetime. 



why?


 


 



Well, people seem to fixate on comparing the covid vaccine to the flu vaccine and then say well since i dont get the flu vaccine, i wont get the covid vaccine.. But why just pick that vaccine to compare it to, when most everyone on this forum received other vaccines in their lifetime. So, I'm just saying.. why pick the one vaccine you choose not to get as your reasoning to not get another vaccine?  The flu virus is a notoriously difficult virus to vaccinate against, as it has ton of strains that mix and mutate every year. The vaccine is modified each year to try and guess which strain will be the most virulent and then make a vaccine to fight that presumed strain. Some years they are right, some years they are wrong.   Whereas the technology and mechanism of action of the covid vaccine is completely different. 


you just described the Rice Rabies Vax

 

 

 

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I've had both phizer covid vaccinations. 

no side effects.

 

I got it because I work in a very busy hospital and I have seen a lot of covid deaths. 

I also get the flu shot every year. 

felt like it was the right thing to do, based on history and how vaccinations have led to the eradication of diseases. 

Right or wrong, it's a step in the right direction.

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Right or wrong, it's a step in the right direction.


if it's wrong, how can it be a step in the right direction? 

 

 

 

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Years ago I got the flu shot. Got horribly ill. Recovering I got exposed to something else floating around. Horrific sore throat fever aches n pains. Hospital over run.  An old timey doctor treated me by swabbing my throat with iodine. Two days later, fit as a fiddle. 
Haven't had a flu shot since. Most every year I get sinuses infection that's it. 

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Years ago I got the flu shot. Got horribly ill. Recovering I got exposed to something else floating around. Horrific sore throat fever aches n pains. Hospital over run.  An old timey doctor treated me by swabbing my throat with iodine. Two days later, fit as a fiddle. 
Haven't had a flu shot since. Most every year I get sinuses infection that's it. 


Flu shots usually have actual flu in them..... thats why you got sick. The covid shot has ZERO live or killed virus.. Its quite an amazing new technology.

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Years ago I got the flu shot. Got horribly ill. Recovering I got exposed to something else floating around. Horrific sore throat fever aches n pains. Hospital over run.  An old timey doctor treated me by swabbing my throat with iodine. Two days later, fit as a fiddle. 
Haven't had a flu shot since. Most every year I get sinuses infection that's it. 



Flu shots usually have actual flu in them..... thats why you got sick. The covid shot has ZERO live or killed virus.. Its quite an amazing new technology.


It's the new technology that scares me off, a mRNA vaccine has never been approved by the FDA and I admit I don't know very much about it, but given how fast they made the vaccine and how little testing was done, I am not going to get the vaccine at this time.  I don't think I am much of a risk for complications and since there are medicines that are very effective I am not too worried about it. I sure hope in a year or so I look back and laugh at myself for being overly cautious. 

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No, I never gotten the flu vaccine.  I think this vaccine was pushed through to fast and the long term side effects are unknown.  I drive school bus and I hardly ever get sick

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I would like to take the vaccine but not eligible yet. I will get it as soon as possible. My wife got the second shot a week ago. She works in a hospital so was one of the first in our county to be able to get it. She had a bit of a sore arm on the first dose. The second dose she got a little sick for a couple days as did 2 of her friends that got them. She felt like a bit of a cold and was very tired. Said she felt like she had a fever but didn't actually have a fever. She got the second dose on a thursday. By sat she felt fine. They have given 2000 doses at her hospital. Only side effects they know of are similar to what she had. Most have had none. 

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I got my 2nd dose of pfizer on Monday the 11th .My husband got his first dose of the pfizer vaccine yesterday ,2nd on Feb 4th. I work in an inpatient rehab and we are beginning to get quite a few "post covis" patients. This is some BAD ****. Some have been hospitilized for MONTHS,on ventilators,ECMO and medically induced comas. They are so very weak. Also as an added bonus,we are noticing post covid patients seem to be prone to PE's .I would rather bear the discomfort from a vaccine for day or 2 than to contract this virus



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Years ago I got the flu shot. Got horribly ill. Recovering I got exposed to something else floating around. Horrific sore throat fever aches n pains. Hospital over run.  An old timey doctor treated me by swabbing my throat with iodine. Two days later, fit as a fiddle. 
Haven't had a flu shot since. Most every year I get sinuses infection that's it. 

Flu shots usually have actual flu in them..... thats why you got sick. The covid shot has ZERO live or killed virus.. Its quite an amazing new technology.

It's the new technology that scares me off, a mRNA vaccine has never been approved by the FDA and I admit I don't know very much about it, but given how fast they made the vaccine and how little testing was done, I am not going to get the vaccine at this time.  I don't think I am much of a risk for complications and since there are medicines that are very effective I am not too worried about it. I sure hope in a year or so I look back and laugh at myself for being overly cautious. 

That's understandable. They did test the vaccine in 44,000 people before it was approved.  I think we instinctively fear things we don't understand.  I don't fear it because I understand it fairly well.  I think it's a brilliant new innovative way to develop vaccines.  There's nothing wrong with being concerned about potential "long term" side effects of any new vaccine.  At this point, we cannot honestly reassure anyone with any confidence that there are no adverse long term side effects of the Covid vaccine.  Over the years, there have been concerns of long term side effects of vaccines, but the overwhelming majority of those concerns were dispelled with subsequent study.  Guillain Barre' syndrome, a neurological disorder, is probably the most famous, and that was associated with a swine flu vaccine from the 1970's.  The incidence of that was about 1 in 100,000 people who were vaccinated.  Most other concerns since then were rare, and subsequent study allayed those fears.  
I'm still hoping I don't wake up with a third eye.  So far, so good. 

 



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Have my appointment for Tuesday for my first dose! Looking forward to it! I want to get back in thst classroom!! I'm sick and tired of teaching from home!! Totally done with it. 

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Mandatory won't happen anytime soon on that subject. I think this vaccine is closer to using the public as test rats.  There are test that have been  done (I suppose) that I read  that copper kills covid 19. The catch is it must touch the bacteria for 30 seconds.so I did a search on anti bacterial copper.you can take liquid copper vitamin or hang anti bacterial copper  necklace so you can run your hands with it. Or an anti bacterial nasal instrument for your own personal use.. stating that it kills viruses.I know this is numbers on the news but are the cemeteries really filling up?

 

 

 

 

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cow pie - 2021-01-15 10:39 PM


Mandatory won't happen anytime soon on that subject. I think this vaccine is closer to using the public as test rats.  There are test that have been  done (I suppose) that I read  that copper kills covid 19. The catch is it must touch the bacteria for 30 seconds.so I did a search on anti bacterial copper.you can take liquid copper vitamin or hang anti bacterial copper  necklace so you can run your hands with it. Or an anti bacterial nasal instrument for your own personal use.. stating that it kills viruses.I know this is numbers on the news but are the cemeteries really filling up?


 


 


 


 


It's a virus, not a bacteria. This is why it's good to listen to people who have devoted their entire lives to studying these things It's also mainly transmissible by air, not surfaces. And yes, the cemeteries are really filling up. Be grateful if you don't personally know someone who has died from this.

This is why it's good to listen to people who have devoted their entire lives to studying these things.

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cow pie - 2021-01-15 10:39 PM

Mandatory won't happen anytime soon on that subject. I think this vaccine is closer to using the public as test rats.  There are test that have been  done (I suppose) that I read  that copper kills covid 19. The catch is it must touch the bacteria for 30 seconds.so I did a search on anti bacterial copper.you can take liquid copper vitamin or hang anti bacterial copper  necklace so you can run your hands with it. Or an anti bacterial nasal instrument for your own personal use.. stating that it kills viruses.I know this is numbers on the news but are the cemeteries really filling up?

 

 

 

 

It's a virus, not a bacteria. This is why it's good to listen to people who have devoted their entire lives to studying these things It's also mainly transmissible by air, not surfaces. And yes, the cemeteries are really filling up. Be grateful if you don't personally know someone who has died from this.

This is why it's good to listen to people who have devoted their entire lives to studying these things.

Anthony Fauci is accreditted as studying viruses his complete adult life.................yet has flip flopped and wobbled on public information since the beginning of this situation. Fact!

Something to think about, from the Spanish Flu of the early 20th Century, there was an uptick in bacterical pnuemonia (I believe this is the correct ailment). Historical Research indicates it was brought on by the wearing of masks...........................A medical reseach paper was written about this historical event by none other than Anthony Fauci.



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But, what do I know? I am just a red headed fatman with a penchant for reading...............

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My boss took the first shot and shes been off work for bout 5-6 days now bc she sick from the shot.  I know 2 people after the 2nd shot they was really fatigue about 2-3 days and really sore in the arm a couple days.  and I know some no effect at all. 

I dont want the vaccine.

I have already been sick from covid, I am bout 2 weeks with no symptoms.  I did test positive.  so I for sure dont want vaccine this soon bc Im sure my immunity not back up where it needs to be.

 

As far as manadtory, my friend works at a doctors office (orpeditic)  they told her if she doesnt take the vaccine and she gets covid they are not paying her or use her sick leave.  So she took it.

 

 

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Bear what research supports which one is better for people who have had reactions to flu shots? 
I'm so torn on this situation especially if it becomes mandatory for a life 

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I have an appointment for the first shot on the 29th. I am one of those with lung issues that would be at significant additional risk if I got Covid, so the choice was easy for me. As a trained Biochemist, I probably have a better than average understanding of the function of this new technology. In my case, and I speak only for myself, I am comfortable with taking this due to my overall additional risk factors. Your results may vary.

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Bear what research supports which one is better for people who have had reactions to flu shots? 
I'm so torn on this situation especially if it becomes mandatory for a life 


I'm not aware of any differences between the Moderna versus Pfizer vaccines in people with a history of "reactions" to flu shots.  Basically, anyone with a history of an "immediate reaction" to any vaccine or anyone who has had an anaphylactic reaction to any medication should not get the vaccine.  Now if you had a flu shot and felt crappy over the next 24 hours, but did not experience some kind of immediate reaction, I wouldn't think getting a Covid vaccine is contraindicated.  I do know that most of the unpleasant side effects happen after the second shot.  Moderna has something like 8-10% incidence of things like aching muscles and joints, headache, and low grade fever, etc...  Pfizer seems to have a lower incidence...maybe half that of Moderna.  If you take all the possible side effects, including a sore arm, then the incidence overall may be as high as 15%.  Bottom line is that if you have specific questions about contraindications or your past history, you should ask your doc. I got the Moderna vaccine, but won't get the second vaccine for another 12 days or so.

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I am not getting the covid vaccine.  My employer offered it to all muncipial employees and the majority also refused to get it.  It takes years to research and develop a vaccine and the powers that be certainly did not take that amount of time to put it out there.  No thanks...

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BarrelRacing4Christ - 2021-01-20 8:49 PM


It takes years to research and develop a vaccine


That's why my friends and I are not going to have phizer vaccinations. If you have no side effects after the covid vaccination, this doesn't mean they will not appear in a year. I don't want to feel like a science experiment.

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It takes years to research and develop a vaccine



That's why my friends and I are not going to have phizer vaccinations. If you have no side effects after the covid vaccination, this doesn't mean they will not appear in a year. I don't want to feel like a science experiment.


Wow, new member from the UK.  Welcome Welcome !!!!   

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BarrelRacing4Christ - 2021-01-20 8:49 PM


It takes years to research and develop a vaccine



That's why my friends and I are not going to have phizer vaccinations. If you have no side effects after the covid vaccination, this doesn't mean they will not appear in a year. I don't want to feel like a science experiment.


Welcome to the board !

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What long term complications are people worried about?

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I received the Pfizer vaccine. I got my second dose 3 weeks ago. I work in an emergency room, I saw many people die from COVID and COVID alone of ALL ages. We don't know the long term effects of COVID so I'd rather take my chance on the vaccine than the virus that I've seen kill people with my own eyes. Every ER doc I work with also received the vaccine, and I trust them a whole lot more than a bunch of internet conspiracy theorists. I have a different perspective than most people though since I've seen the tragedies it causes. 

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Gsdknox44 - 2021-01-21 10:20 AM

I received the Pfizer vaccine. I got my second dose 3 weeks ago. I work in an emergency room, I saw many people die from COVID and COVID alone of ALL ages. We don't know the long term effects of COVID so I'd rather take my chance on the vaccine than the virus that I've seen kill people with my own eyes. Every ER doc I work with also received the vaccine, and I trust them a whole lot more than a bunch of internet conspiracy theorists. I have a different perspective than most people though since I've seen the tragedies it causes. 

Covid hasn't effected any one in my family and we never quarantined from each other. It has killed a man my husband works with and 3 of his family, however they all had multiple serious medical conditions before Covid. My dad will 90 this year and mom will be 80. Both are VERY active. Dad still works on the farm cutting hay and working cattle and doing repairs. Mom helps 2 days a week watching her very active great grandson. My son and husband work "essential" jobs(boy, I hate that term, all jobs are essential for the people who hold them) and are fine. Neighbor man and wife down the toad got Covid- the wife who had just had major back surgery went immediately to the hospital and recovered just fine, her husband did the man thing and refused to go. He almost died but is recovering now. Both are in their late 70's. The few we know who got it either never got sick or had some symptoms but recovered and didn't go to the hospital. One guy who got it early on drove to Dallas to get with a doctor who prescribed hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and he said with 4 hours he felt fine. Before he was having some trouble breathing. So based on MY experience, no I am going to wait before I get vaccinated. Besides, my dad went to get his vaccine and the line was a over a mile long. He sat for awhile but left. Later we found out the 5000 vaccines never even made to our county, they were sent somewhere else. So there is that too.

 
I can't believe I hit 43 for that man's family that died. It was 3. 



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I plan on getting it, but I'm low risk and definitely not a priority. When the people who need to vaccine have gotten it, I'll be signing up. But in the meantime, I'm fine staying out of crowded areas and wearing a mask to block moisture that may escape my mouth and nose. A minor annoyance is a very small price to pay if it helps other people stay healthy, in my opinion. It's a no-brainer.

My great-aunt got the first round of the Moderna vaccine last week! No side effects reported. She lost her eldest sister to the virus back in May and her husband died of complications caused by the virus on NYE. She tested positive as well and the entire family was worried that she wasn't going to make it since she is going through chemotherapy and she has a pacemaker. But according to the doctors, she recovered from COVID a couple weeks ago. Crossing my fingers...

 

 

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To be perfectly honest, I have had more people I personally know or family of friends I personally know (not just FB friends) die from COVID complications within the last week.  My neighbor has now had COVID twice and was hospitalized twice because she literally could not breathe. She is young (30's) with kids and no major medical issues as well.  So that does concern me as far as the virus and how it is mutating. This is also part of why we are not getting the vaccine-I think this thing is mutating so what then?  Do you just keep getting shots? 

My husband (who is a cop) and I are not getting the vaccine.  We are healthy and do not believe it is worth taking.  I realize that the way this vaccine is being created is different than a flu shot but I don't get the flu shot and haven't (maybe when I was young, like 5) but never as an adult and I have never had the flu.  I rarely get sick.  

Also, I think there are a ton of things I just can't seem to fnd the answer to for long term effects.  I don't think I am going to grow a third eye, but do you really know if your immune system won't be compromised in any shape or form?  Will it not subject you to other side effects?  This one is a stretch, but will you be at an increased risk for something, say cancer?  I just don't believe there has been adequate analysis to weight short term and long term effects.

That all said, I can absolutely understand and appreciate those with compromised systems needing and getting the shot, but don't believe it is in my best interest.

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-22 6:57 PM
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today amazon  pulled politics over its consumers

 

it offered biden  help distibution  but did not trump  i make a promise now  which is tough not to shop unless last resort

 

i am only 1 but this is so wrong  nothing bbut politic

"We are prepared to move quickly once vaccines are available," he wrote.

Amazon representative Jodi Seth said the company had been “in touch” last month with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Trump administration's Department of Health and Human Services. But she gave no indication that Amazon had extended a similar offer directly to President Donald Trump.

Clark had also asked the CDC last month that employees working at Amazon fulfillment centers, Amazon Web Services data centers and Whole Foods Market stores "who cannot work from home" receive the vaccine "at the earliest appropriate time." He made the same request that Amazon's workers be vaccinated to the Biden administration.

 

no i am not getting vaccine

 

 

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gypsykalgirl
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2021-01-25 9:33 PM
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For those of you intersted in researching more about COVID and the vaccine here is a great talk from an ER Doc. I know we all get inundated

with information, but I would highly recommend watching. 

 

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.htm

 

https://rumble.com/vctx45-covid-and-the-vaccine.html

 

Try this link instead ^^^

 



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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-26 3:29 AM
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gypsykalgirl - 2021-01-25 9:33 PM


For those of you intersted in researching more about COVID and the vaccine here is a great talk from an ER Doc. I know we all get inundated


with information, but I would highly recommend watching. 



 


https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.htm


 


 


I clicked on this but it says the page doesn't seem to exist.  Censored maybe......

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-01-26 4:05 AM
Subject: RE: Vaccine



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I decided to watch CNN last night before bed to see all the great things Biden is up to.... well... all I heard was the continuing bashing of President Trump and how its his fault Covid is still out of control. I'm not even remotely exaggerating here. I fell asleep and was woken up a few hours later, TV was still on CNN, different news anchor, same ol story.... President Trumps fault.... blame blame blame .... but nothing good about the Biden administration and how he's going to fix anything or what he's actually doing. It was all about Trump and his apparent crimes against the American people for January 6th "RIOTS" they were literally whining that he will probably get acquitted because the " Trumplicans" are brainwashed,  that's what they kept referring to us conservatives as.. "Trumplicans" ... but it in the next sentence they coo about how Biden is trying to unite us all... my God, the irony .....  They quoted Biden saying the impeachment MUST HAPPEN even though it may interfere with his job at hand ... you know, uniting us and fixing all the screw ups the Trump administration did. I tried to watch with an open mind, I really did. 

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gypsykalgirl
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2021-01-26 11:44 AM
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Frodo - 2021-01-26 1:29 AM


gypsykalgirl - 2021-01-25 9:33 PM


For those of you intersted in researching more about COVID and the vaccine here is a great talk from an ER Doc. I know we all get inundated


with information, but I would highly recommend watching. 



 


https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.htm


 


 



I clicked on this but it says the page doesn't seem to exist.  Censored maybe......


I updated my link. Let me know if it still won't work

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2021-01-27 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: Vaccine


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My wife got the second shot 3 weeks ago. She had a few side effects after the second shot. Felt tired all day then felt like she had a fever the second night. 2 days later she was fine. I was able to get the first shot a week ago. No side effects at all. Not even arm soreness. 2 more weeks and I get shot number 2. 

 

Seems among our friends and family that have taken the vaccine about half had some side effects after the second shot. None have had side effects after the first shot. 

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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2021-01-27 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: Vaccine


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This vax is so new, there is litterally no long term studies associated with it! Also, I was reminded yesterday, that The FDA did NOT originally approve this vaccine prior to distrubtion.....................

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-27 2:46 PM
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gypsykalgirl - 2021-01-26 11:44 AM


Frodo - 2021-01-26 1:29 AM


gypsykalgirl - 2021-01-25 9:33 PM


For those of you intersted in researching more about COVID and the vaccine here is a great talk from an ER Doc. I know we all get inundated


with information, but I would highly recommend watching. 



 


https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.htm


 


 



I clicked on this but it says the page doesn't seem to exist.  Censored maybe......



I updated my link. Let me know if it still won't work


Nope  !!!  Not there.

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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2021-01-27 3:24 PM
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Frodo - 2021-01-27 2:46 PM


gypsykalgirl - 2021-01-26 11:44 AM


Frodo - 2021-01-26 1:29 AM


gypsykalgirl - 2021-01-25 9:33 PM


For those of you intersted in researching more about COVID and the vaccine here is a great talk from an ER Doc. I know we all get inundated


with information, but I would highly recommend watching. 



 


https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.htm


 


 



I clicked on this but it says the page doesn't seem to exist.  Censored maybe......



I updated my link. Let me know if it still won't work



Nope  !!!  Not there.


It worked for me late yesterday afternoon. I hope you get to see it. It was really good with some very important info. 

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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2021-01-29 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: Vaccine



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I will not be getting the vaccine. This virus has a high survival rate. The majority of the deaths were with people that had underlying health issues. Since Covid the flu has all but disappeared. I will not let my children get this vaccine either. There has not been enough testing. Nor has it been around long enough to see short and long term effects. 

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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2021-01-29 12:55 PM
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My mom is getting the vaccine today. I'm not sure I'm 100% on board with it, but she's not very healthy and overweight. It's probably a good thing for her to get it. I just hope she doesn't have any adverse reactions to it. She put my dad on the list and he said no, at least not right now. 



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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2021-01-29 1:12 PM
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Seriously guys... TAKE IT so you don't miss out on the class action lawsuit in 5 yrs.

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Chicken Fried
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2021-01-29 1:23 PM
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I am in the let's just wait and see how this is going to shake out, since COVID  has such a high survival rate.   I'm not throwing caution to the wind, we are careful and keep to ourselves just as we always have.  As farmers we social distanced  when it wasn't cool. 

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Sangria
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2021-01-29 6:47 PM
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I get my 2nd vaccine on Monday.
I am very greatful I was one of the lucky ones who have gotten it this early

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Southernyankee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2021-01-30 7:56 AM
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No way I would get an experimental vaccine for something with.a survival rate in the high nineties percentile. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-30 9:52 AM
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Well dang, the terrorists incarcerated at Gitmo are being offered the vaccine before I'm even being considered.  O.J. Simpson got his, a Mexican radio host flew to Florida and got a vaccine because they were too slow in his home country.  The pecking order is a little weird.

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~BINGO~
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2021-01-30 11:54 AM
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My family went through Covid. My dad is in his early 60s. He, his wife, and her 98 year old grandmother had it. My mom, 59, and her husband. My brother, 35, and his wife. Myself and my husband, 32 and 36.

 

  The 98 year old grandmother had next to no symptoms.  Out of everyone, my dad probably had it the worst. He is healthy, active, and has called in sick one day in his entire life. After getting Covid, he was in bed for a few days and had a nasty cough.  Felt exhausted for a week or so. 

 

My mom has respiratory issues. Not really any changes for her, aside from tiring easily. The rest of us had varying symptoms. Basically a strong cold or low grade flu. Cough, congestion. Headaches, backaches. My brother said his eyeballs hurt. The worst for myself and husband was the loss of taste and smell. I thought, cool, this will help me shed that 5 extra lbs. Haha! Nope, I had to test my taste with everything I could find.  ; )

In a nut shell, no, me nor any of my family will be getting the China virus vaccine. I do have a few liberal clients who are all about it though. Praise be to Joe Biden for saving us all.

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-30 12:08 PM
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~BINGO~ - 2021-01-30 11:54 AM


My family went through Covid. My dad is in his early 60s. He, his wife, and her 98 year old grandmother had it. My mom, 59, and her husband. My brother, 35, and his wife. Myself and my husband, 32 and 36.


 


  The 98 year old grandmother had next to no symptoms.  Out of everyone, my dad probably had it the worst. He is healthy, active, and has called in sick one day in his entire life. After getting Covid, he was in bed for a few days and had a nasty cough.  Felt exhausted for a week or so. 


 


My mom has respiratory issues. Not really any changes for her, aside from tiring easily. The rest of us had varying symptoms. Basically a strong cold or low grade flu. Cough, congestion. Headaches, backaches. My brother said his eyeballs hurt. The worst for myself and husband was the loss of taste and smell. I thought, cool, this will help me shed that 5 extra lbs. Haha! Nope, I had to test my taste with everything I could find.  ; )


In a nut shell, no, me nor any of my family will be getting the China virus vaccine. I do have a few liberal clients who are all about it though. Praise be to Joe Biden for saving us all.


Wow Bingo, it really buzzsawed through your family.  My 81 year old sis-in-law had it very mildly.  She was definitely at risk because of other health problems but is okay.  My nephew and his wife, their son and daughter both had it.  Came through it fine.  However, my husband's cousin and brother got very sick.  Brother was in hospital for four days, cousin 71 passed away.  I'm on the fence about the vaccine and may consider the J & J since it's only one shot.

I like to read the opinions on this thread.   

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caspersabelpip
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2021-01-30 12:49 PM
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I got my second Moderna vaccine Wednesday. I had no side effects at all with the first shot but the second one kicked my butt a bit. However, it was very tolerable with some ibuprofen and Tylenol and I didn't miss any work. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-30 3:44 PM
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Huh, MA Dem Congressman Stephen Lynch tested positive for Covid and he's had both his first and second vaccine.

 

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2021-01-30 8:09 PM
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Frodo - 2021-01-30 1:44 PM


Huh, MA Dem Congressman Stephen Lynch tested positive for Covid and he's had both his first and second vaccine.


 


Very possible. Vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting infected, it lessens the disease.

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Sangria
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2021-01-30 8:31 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2021-01-30 8:09 PM


Frodo - 2021-01-30 1:44 PM


Huh, MA Dem Congressman Stephen Lynch tested positive for Covid and he's had both his first and second vaccine.


 



Very possible. Vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting infected, it lessens the disease.


It takes a few weeks before immunity takes place

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