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| My horse has lost almost all of his topline amd the only thing I've changed is his feed to TE a little over a month ago. He acts like he feels fine but I am starting to really worry. He's sucked up and his backbone is starting to appear. I'm thinking of running some psyllium through him since he's been eating his alfalfa off the ground and switching to shavings.Teeth are fine....dewormed regularly....and is almost done with ulcer treatment.
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | a couple of mine never seemed to thrive on it. If I gave it to an easy keeper I was fine. But ones that needed weight I just didn't have any luck. If I rode them steady, they just got thinner and thinner. We keep all of ours on pasture or free choice grass hay, and it is excellent hay. But when they are being ranched on, they can use some grain sometimes and Total Equine just didn't cut it for ours. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I tried it when it first came out and both of my horses didn't do well on it at all. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | I honestly have never heard good things about it. |
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| Thanks for the responses. I have been freaking out and contemplating bloodwork....scope....and a hail Mary LOL. Guess I will be switching feed. Again. Ugh.
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I just read the headlines
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| /Streakin/ - 2015-12-19 10:50 AM
My horse has lost almost all of his topline amd the only thing I've changed is his feed to TE a little over a month ago. He acts like he feels fine but I am starting to really worry. He's sucked up and his backbone is starting to appear. I'm thinking of running some psyllium through him since he's been eating his alfalfa off the ground and switching to shavings.Teeth are fine....dewormed regularly....and is almost done with ulcer treatment.
Yep, that is exactly what happened to my horse and the only thing I changed was his feed. Talked to the guy who makes it and got no help. Took forever to get him straightened back out. |
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| I want to cry. He looks horrible. I can no longer get Bluebonnet so I suppose hell be put on Ultium and I'll up his alfalfa |
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I just read the headlines
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| My horse finally started improving when I changed to 2lbs of oats and 5 lbs of alfalfa pellets with 8 oz of whole flaxseed and a round bale of grass hay. Then I went to Renew gold and alfalfa pellets and he looked a little better still. But my TSC wasn't good about keeping Renew Gold so I switched to Omni cubes and he looks better than ever. I also treated him for ulcers/digestive upset. For that I used Cur Ost Stomach and the Adapt. |
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Expert
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I tried ADM PowerGlo and mine did the same thing. All those fancy packaged feeds are just hype for someone to make a lot of money on. I went back to oats,cracked corn,bean meal,beet shreds,soy oil,salt and mineral. I just feed 2.5# at a feeding and feed twice a day. Mine look fantastic again and it only cost me $402.00 a ton bagged at my local feed mill. They use a seperate mixer for all their cattle feed so I don't have to worry about a mix up. To me the livestock university's would push these special feeds if they were so much better. |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | I gave up trying to feed expensive grains.
Mine get just basic rice bran twice a day now on top of their alfalfa.
Beefed them right up which is nice for my checkbook lol. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | One horse we bought was on it when we got her, she seemed to do well, but owners wanted to switch. And for the price... I don't blame them. Wanting To do a more basic diet.
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| We used it on our 10 year old gelding who wasn't skinny by any means but had NO topline and just needed to fill out...it honestly worked wonders on him but once he filled out we stopped buying it because of the price and hard to find dealers in our rural area. I guess i always thought it was more for filling things out and you do have to feed quite a bit which is ok because on skinny horses you can feed it free choice. FT fed it to her old horse (not gonna get into it on my thoughts on her or that she let him get that way lol) but it seemed to work really well for her |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | The ultium will help. I fed if several years ago and really liked it on my hard keeper. That is the best feed Purina offers imho. I just wish it was cheaper.
I can really only get Purina or Nutrena here. I feed my colt ultium growth. I'm liking the results.
There are several other feeds I would like to try, but cannot get around here. |
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | I have not seen good results with it either.. Id not worry about any other stuff .. just switch to a better feed.. Purina Equine sr is a great feed as well.. |
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Sock Snob
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| i fed those expensive fee too. feed southerns fiber plus 12percent fat its a complete feed and it does have some molasses in it but i olny feed two pounds and feed a equal amount of hay strecher all horses are fat. |
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| Can you get renew gold? |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I have one easy keeper who does great on it and I don't have to feed a lot of it to her. I have a gelding who also does well on it and he doesn't get hot eating TE, which is why I started using it in the first place. My new TB gelding does ok when he is getting A LOT of TE twice a day.
So, two of mine do great on TE, I will be switching the third one to something else since he seems to need so much more feed to fatten up and I can't justify giving him that much of the expensive TE when all he seems to need is more fat.
I like that it's supposed to be nearly impossible to colic one on this feed (or so I've heard) and I like that it's supposed to be more of a slow burning energy source instead of a peak then sharp drop off. I'm no feed expert, but it did seem to work like that when I was competing. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | /Streakin/ - 2015-12-19 10:50 AM
My horse has lost almost all of his topline amd the only thing I've changed is his feed to TE a little over a month ago. He acts like he feels fine but I am starting to really worry. He's sucked up and his backbone is starting to appear. I'm thinking of running some psyllium through him since he's been eating his alfalfa off the ground and switching to shavings.Teeth are fine....dewormed regularly....and is almost done with ulcer treatment.
If you were feeding according to "the scoop" instead of by weighing your feed, you might not be giving him enough. In other words, if you were feeding two scoops of you old feed and switched to two scoops of TE, you might just need to be feeding more. You can give TE free choice, if you can afford it.
I haven't been competing, but I'm keeping two of mine on it because their weight is fine and their feet are in good shape, etc. I don't want to gamble with any nutritional changes at the moment with those two. For them, I like TE just fine. |
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Location: At the barn | I've used it for several years now. There is definitely a transition period, 2 months in my experience. It has worked wonders on SEVERAL horses for me including a 28 yo that had stopped eating his Purina grain completely. TE put about 300# on him. It's the only feed that would maintain top line and overall body condition on my horses that are in rigorous training.
A lot of people throw rocks at it, mainly because of price imo, but you get what you pay for. It's 150% better feed than ANY Purina product, they wrecked my horses body condition and I had feed Strategy and Ultium for years.
If you want to truly see the difference, keep your horse on it at least 2 months because right now what you see can't be blamed on a feed you've been using a, month.
Of course that's if your horses teeth are maintained, he's not got parasites andv you're feeding adequate amounts of good forage.
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 Living on the edge of common sense
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I've never been a fan of any supplements but I tried Total Equine a couple of years ago and have used it ever since. They like it and I contribute it to holding 31 year old Teehaha is really good condition.
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