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Gettin Jiggy Wit It
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| So I was thinking on using bentonite clay for ulcer while I haul. I currently bought the redmond daily gold bentonite clay product to try. I've been feeding it daily for two weeks so far to my gelding that has gotten aggressive. I think he may have gotten ulcers because it's not like him to be that way. So far he's done very well on it and if it's working or not, he seems much better. Anyways, I know it says not to feed with supplements or medicine since it absorbs toxins and detoxifys.... To wait 2 to 3 hours after to feed the meds or supplements... but my question is, since that is the case, is it alright to feed with their regular grain ration at all? I've been just feeding it mixed in my horses grain that has his daily vitamin mineral and oil mixed in. That's what the directions are on the redmond package. Secondly, where do you buy the clay that you use? Since I don't know much about Bentonite clay I just decided to buy the redmond product. Lastly, is there anything eles I should know about feeding clay? I know the calcium bentonite clay is for internal and sodium bentonite is for external... Thanks! |
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| I have been using the Redmond Daily Gold for almost 3 months now. My horse had gotten hot and nervous at the races. She would get runny poop before our run. After a month on the product, she stopped doing this, and seemed to be more calm at the shows. She has been hurt the past couple of months, but I have been giving this to her along with bute. I feed the meds in the morning, and this at night, hoping to keep the meds from killing her belly. I put it in her feed, and haven't had any issues. I really like the stuff, and the farrier commented on how much it made her feet grow. |
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Location: London Ontario | I have been using it too. She is on a 5 week vacation however so I cant really tell if there is much of a difference. Only was she exhibited ulcer symptoms was when I was getting ready to ride. I have a bag of THE GastroPlus shipping to be I will start her on. Once I am out of the THE I will continue the Redmond clay....I will keep you updated |
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Location: Las Vegas | I've been feeding it for about 6 or 7 years. I love the stuff I see a huge difference in my horses attitude. I also use the Redmond products for people and I can feel a diiference in myself. If you have any questions the people at Redmond are great! I have been to their plant and went on a tour. Its great stuff! |
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| I feed it with my horses grain, and haven't noticed any absorption issues. I actually feed mine with lubrysin, and haven't noticed the lubrysin being less effective. (My horses still have tight legs, no windpuffs)
As a trial I have a tub with my horses to see if they will eat it free choice, as experts say horses will eat what they need, this is why mineral and salt should be fed free choice.
If you don't want to continue using Redmond (which I wouldn't suggest) make sure you find a food grade bentonite clay (I'm not sure if this is available).
Since your horse is responding to the clay, I would suggest keeping him on it for a full 30 days to ensure all the ulcers have been resolved.
As for hauling, I haven't heard of any experts recommending this. The lectures I have been to lately all suggest giving a stomach soother 20 min before saddling, or 20 min before competition. The one I have is called Equine choice, I have great results with it. It lowers the ph in the stomach, short half life, therefore no long term absorption issues.
I would suggest trying milk of magnesia, calcium bicarbonate, tums, something along those lines, a local feed store would have a equine version. I think this would be a better alternative then only giving bentonite clay when hauling. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2016-01-31 9:37 PM I feed it with my horses grain, and haven't noticed any absorption issues. I actually feed mine with lubrysin, and haven't noticed the lubrysin being less effective. (My horses still have tight legs, no windpuffs) As a trial I have a tub with my horses to see if they will eat it free choice, as experts say horses will eat what they need, this is why mineral and salt should be fed free choice. If you don't want to continue using Redmond (which I wouldn't suggest) make sure you find a food grade bentonite clay (I'm not sure if this is available). Since your horse is responding to the clay, I would suggest keeping him on it for a full 30 days to ensure all the ulcers have been resolved. As for hauling, I haven't heard of any experts recommending this. The lectures I have been to lately all suggest giving a stomach soother 20 min before saddling, or 20 min before competition. The one I have is called Equine choice, I have great results with it. It lowers the ph in the stomach, short half life, therefore no long term absorption issues. I would suggest trying milk of magnesia, calcium bicarbonate, tums, something along those lines, a local feed store would have a equine version. I think this would be a better alternative then only giving bentonite clay when hauling. hey! thanks for your reply! I am going to continue with the daily gold... but in your reply, what you are saying is if I feed the redmond daily gold each day while hauling, you still advise a stomach acid ph soother pre race? From what I read the calcium bentonite has buffering capabilities... Or does it just not buffer enough to help as an obvious stomach acid ph buffer would do pre race? Thanks!
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| I would say it depends on when you feed the clay, if you feed in the morning and you are going to an evening jackpot, then I would give another buffer 20 min before your horse generally has anxiety, as by this time the clay has past the stomach.
What I mean is if your horse hauls well, I would wait until you saddle to give the buffer and give the horse 20 min before you get on.
I am not sure I would keep giving the clay past the 30 days as I haven't seen any long term studies done on the clay, and I haven't seen any literature regarding the clay and absorption issues.
The way I see it is if you keep giving the clay, since the clay reduces the ph of the stomach and intestine, this will cause the horse to be unable to break down their food properly therefore unable to absorb the essential nutrients from the food.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I had great success for many years giving my ulcer prone gelding THE GastroPlus before I put him in the trailer and everyday I was at a race after I had treated him with the THE Gastroplus. There is 30 doses in one bag so one bag lasted me quite a while. If I didn't give it to him by the second run he would hesitate and give me trouble getting in the gate and by the third run it was a fight plus he would go off of his feed. Such a simple remedy. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | My vet says do not use bentonite clay for more than two weeks in a row. |
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Gettin Jiggy Wit It
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| soonergirl98 - 2016-02-02 1:52 PM
My vet says do not use bentonite clay for more than two weeks in a row.
My horse had a pretty nasty colic episode on the Redmond Gold clay. He had been on it just over 2 weeks. I loved the results up until the episode. My vet said it was like feeding kitty litter and it could very well have clumped up on his stomach etc. |
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