Okay so we finally found a definite diagnosis. everything falls into play- her falling at a barrel race in july, the farrier cutting too much heel off, all can aggravate a pastern subluxation. it is minor and the vet said he would just inject it and leave it at that, no surgery. we dont know if its a conformational issue that shes had since birth or if the subluxation was caused by her falling. Either way, either shes always had it and the fall/farrier aggravated it, or she didnt have it before falling... that started it...and the farrier worsened it. anyone ever deal with this before, or heard of it?
Posted 2009-10-14 8:16 PM (#4415334 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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casualdust07 - 2009-10-14 5:52 PM Okay so we finally found a definite diagnosis. everything falls into play- her falling at a barrel race in july, the farrier cutting too much heel off, all can aggravate a pastern subluxation. it is minor and the vet said he would just inject it and leave it at that, no surgery. we dont know if its a conformational issue that shes had since birth or if the subluxation was caused by her falling. Either way, either shes always had it and the fall/farrier aggravated it, or she didnt have it before falling... that started it...and the farrier worsened it. anyone ever deal with this before, or heard of it?
Yup. My out come was not good, we had bilateral luxation and thick suspensory he was on stall rest for well over 9 mos with egg bar shoes. I ended up donating him to a rescue, I am sorry I do not have better new. Every horse is different and I wish you much luck.
Posted 2009-10-14 9:51 PM (#4415645 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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i wasnt there when they did the vet exam, im off at school and my mom had to do all of the hauling. from what the vet said they said it was very minor and he would definitely not do anything invasive. the first vet missed it completely. but he did get the heel soreness down. shes gone her entire life sound without shoes at all and then when she had shoes they were normal. it wasnt until she fell that we started having an issue. the vet thinks that it wont go back to normal but he said out of all the ones he seen that he had to do surgery on that this one wasnt an issue. he drained the fluid that the joint was holding and injected it.
Posted 2009-10-14 9:56 PM (#4415658 - in reply to #4415368) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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fifteenflat - 2009-10-14 8:26 PM how did they diagnose it?
they diagnosed it first upon visual inspection, he said one pastern looked a little different than the other. then he had her move out where he saw her favoring it. we took xrays of it where you could see the subluxation. she is in eggbars now but is coming out of them in a few weeks. i hope i can get her out of them. the vet seemed to think that it would be no big deal.
Posted 2009-10-14 10:03 PM (#4415669 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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I have a friend who is paralyzed from the waist down and he was showing me his roping horse that had that and told me that he would not be able to ride her anymore because of it. Kinda sad because he has to be very selective of what he rides.
Posted 2009-10-15 9:02 AM (#4416161 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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Have you tried getting a chiropractor to check it out? A subluxation is a bone that is out of place, and a chiro should be able to fix that, instead of surgery or injections....just a thought.....
Posted 2009-10-15 9:24 AM (#4416232 - in reply to #4416161) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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LightningJack - 2009-10-15 9:02 AM Have you tried getting a chiropractor to check it out? A subluxation is a bone that is out of place, and a chiro should be able to fix that, instead of surgery or injections....just a thought.....
Posted 2009-10-15 10:04 AM (#4416345 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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thats not how a subluxation works. the joint in the pastern is different from, say, the joints in the vertebrae which can be manipulated.
ETA- the injection was used to jumpstart getting the inflammation out of the joint and get the immediate pain out. because she had fluid in it we're assuming the injury is fairly recent. she is going to a chiro but you just cant push it back into place. Im taking her there to get the rest of her body worked on because shes been compensating for the pastern pain. The vet wants her out of the eggbars like we have planned because he said they might be aggravating it as well. BUT he did agree that too much heel was taken off. I really hope what he says is true because my vet's not worried about it at all...
Posted 2009-10-15 10:53 AM (#4416495 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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Oh, i wasnt sure about moving the pastern, that was just an idea/thought. But it would be great to get the rest of the body adjusted for compensating. I work for a chiropractor (human/not horse) and was just curious about that, seems like it would help, but not if its unable to move. Just thought id throw my two cents in..hope everything works out!
Posted 2009-10-15 11:05 AM (#4416524 - in reply to #4415236) Subject: RE: pastern subluxation
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I asked my dad the same thing when he was explaining this to me. he works in the medical field (human, not animal) but either way he understood what was going on better than we did. he was the one who explained that the type of joint/mobility of the joint doesnt really make it possible.
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