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horseteeth23 - 2010-02-11 11:29 PM
FYI - our bill also frees farriers as well as equine chiropractors and other persons who provide non-medical animal-husbandry type services. Before now, farriery was actually illegal....but vets don't want to do that so it didn't matter and went untouched. However, there are a new breed of vets who are specializing in "farriery" and are calling themselves Equine Podiatrists....not joking. You can bet your ass farriers would have been next. No doubt. We need farriers, chiropractors, massage therapists and everyone else who will be FREED by this bill to PLEASE COME TO THE CAPITOL ON TUESDAY AT 11!!!!! IT'S GOING TO BE FUN!!!!

whiplashranch - 2010-02-11 11:00 PM

brdrline - 2010-02-10 12:38 PM

There is a VET on this website doing a video to show what "floating teeth" should be like.

Ummmm...he is using POWER TOOLS?  How much education has he had to grind off a horses teeth?  Do people realize that when you use power tools on a horses teeth it can heat them up to an extremely high temperature? 

Yes...it can be done correctly but what does the one or two week study of the teeth while in vet school really teach the average vet about care of the teeth?  

CHOICE.  We can CHOOSE who our family doctor is and we CHOOSE someone else to do work on our teeth.  Why is it different on animals?  How many weeks of study are done on TEETH in the average vet program?  How detailed do they get?  How many weeks of study are done on TEETH in the average Dr. program?  Why would we choose to use a dentist over a DR for the health of our teeth?  hhhhhhmmmmmmmm

brdrline - 2010-02-12 12:27 AM

LetsSaddleUP - 2010-02-12 1:13 PM No these aren't dentist that went to hours and hours of schooling. What the bill says is that anyone, ANYONE, can do teeth floating. There is NO regulations. Yes, they can be fly-by-night. There are approximately 25-30 teeth floaters in Oklahoma now, if this bill passes, persons that can't practice legally in other states will come to Oklahoma. When something goes bad, they are gone.............. Of those 25-30 teeth floaters, how many have been to any type of dentistry school? And the person that wrote the Equine dentist has to go to four years of school is dreaming. Go on the Texas Equine School of Dentistry website and see how many hours of training they have to have. The school web site also says they should work with a veterinarian. On another note: this isn't just about horses. When drugs aren't regulated and anyone can use them, what happens with Oklahoma's economy when the livestock are given drugs that aren't approved and residue risk is too high and Oklahoma can't sell it's beef? Look beyond the tree and see the forest for this bill.

LetsSaddleUP - 2010-02-12 1:13 PM No these aren't dentist that went to hours and hours of schooling. What the bill says is that anyone, ANYONE, can do teeth floating. There is NO regulations. Yes, they can be fly-by-night. There are approximately 25-30 teeth floaters in Oklahoma now, if this bill passes, persons that can't practice legally in other states will come to Oklahoma. When something goes bad, they are gone.............. Of those 25-30 teeth floaters, how many have been to any type of dentistry school? And the person that wrote the Equine dentist has to go to four years of school is dreaming. Go on the Texas Equine School of Dentistry website and see how many hours of training they have to have. The school web site also says they should work with a veterinarian. On another note: this isn't just about horses. When drugs aren't regulated and anyone can use them, what happens with Oklahoma's economy when the livestock are given drugs that aren't approved and residue risk is too high and Oklahoma can't sell it's beef? Look beyond the tree and see the forest for this bill.

dianeguinn - 2010-02-12 1:41 PM


20 to 30 years ago the veterinary drugs weren't regulated, and we had no problem selling OK beef.  If the producers can't sell their beef, they're not going to give those drugs to their animals.  Come on, give the people the benefit of the doubt for having some sense.  All we need is more regulations and more boards paid by our taxes overseeing  people that don't need overseeing.   If  Bobby Griswold had that many drugs with him, he had to get them SOMEWHERE.....how about going after the vets that sold it to him....huh?  I don't want to see more regulation of veterinary drugs because I like to keep a supply of banamine, penicillin, etc. for my horses for emergencies, as it can be an hour or more before a vet can come out on an emergency call, if you can even GET one to come out. This particular part of the bill that had no "nays" on it was attached to the end of a HUMAN bill....naturally we don't want unlicensed people practicing HUMAN medicine, but come on.....animals are property and if they're OUR property and they are valuable, we're going to be careful who we have working on them.   I have a question for you, saddle up.   According to this bill, it says that any employee of yours can castrate, tooth float, etc.  So if we hire a lay tooth floater to do our horse's teeth, isn't he/she essentially our employee? So we can have any employee of ours work on our horses? That's what it sounds like to me....Oh, and if there's been so many cease and desist letters, why can't that be made public? The way I understand it, the COTF has asked to see the complaints multiple times, and the vet board has ignored the request.  Why? Is it because the complaints were made by vets and not horse owners???? Let's see these complaints and see what he's supposedly done that's bad for horses and then we can make an informed decision about whether or not he and his kind should be allowed to continue to work! Oh, by the way, are you a vet?

roanrobey - 2010-02-12 6:50 PM

[are property and if they're OUR property and they are valuable, we're going to be careful who we have working on them.   I have a question for you, saddle up.   According to this bill, it says that any employee of yours can castrate, tooth float, etc.  So if we hire a lay tooth floater to do our horse's teeth, isn't he/she essentially our employee? So we can have any employee of ours work on our horses? That's what it sounds like to me....Oh, and if there's been so many cease and desist letters, why can't that be made public? The way I understand it, the COTF has asked to see the complaints multiple times, and the vet board has ignored the request. 


I have this same question Diane, if we hire the tooth floater .... arent they MY employee??? And since they would be my employee, they can work on my horses like the regs state....

If this is not true.. please explain why, cause I dont understand then.