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Farrierlady
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2011-10-26 10:21 AM (#5967299)
Subject: Welcome Dena Kirkpatrick this morning at 10 a.m. to BHW!


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Coop
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2011-10-26 10:23 AM (#5967305 - in reply to #5967299)
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Reg. May 2006
Posted 2011-10-26 10:24 AM (#5967308 - in reply to #5967299)
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Moonchaser
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2011-10-26 10:30 AM (#5967327 - in reply to #5967299)
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polorunner
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2011-10-26 10:32 AM (#5967333 - in reply to #5967299)
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HorsesNHarleys
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2011-10-26 10:36 AM (#5967346 - in reply to #5967299)
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Sockittoemred
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2011-10-26 10:38 AM (#5967350 - in reply to #5967299)
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tThompson
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2011-10-26 10:40 AM (#5967356 - in reply to #5967299)
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  Not sure if I will be able to be on here when she is, so I am hoping I can post my question already..



Dena, I love your training style.  My question is, what do you expect from your colts before they see barrels?  Also, when training a futurity horse, How much time off do you usually give them?  I'm sending one away next spring as a 3 yr old, and am curious if he will be ready for the 5 yr old futurities..


Thank you~~ 
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polorunner
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2011-10-26 11:01 AM (#5967411 - in reply to #5967299)
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poloracer
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2011-10-26 11:03 AM (#5967416 - in reply to #5967299)
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Hi Dena,
 
My question is this. I have a great horse that has a great pattern on him but for some reason I am having a hard time getting him to RUN. This horse can fly but I think we went slowfor too long and I am afraid that he isn't understanding to RUN!  HA! Any suggestions on how to get this horse running in to pen and through the barrels. I have breezed him in a field and he has no issue running out in the open, but doesn't seem to make that connection in the arena. He is a very ratey horse and is currently running a second off and I know I can get more. Any tips??
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polorunner
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2011-10-26 11:08 AM (#5967435 - in reply to #5967299)
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Dena,

I need some advice on how to work a horse that has a very sensitive mouth. My younger horse is sooo sensitive but VERY broke. He is just very sensitive to the mouth, so you have to ride him with all feet, if you sit, he will put his butt in the dirt, he has an amazing handle on him. Will pick his shoulder up perfect and just moves great off leg pressure, which is where I need help. On the pattern if you try to help him at all with your hands, he gets really aggravated and doesnt want you to touch his face. So how do I sucessfully ride him, any suggestions on how to maybe be able to help him with my hands, or suggestions on how to remember to ride with just my feet. He can smoke a barrel but doesnt want you to touch his face. 

He has had his teeth done, he isnt in pain, he just is a very sensitive horse, and doesnt like any bit with a shank either or curb chain.

Any suggestions would be really appreciated!

Thanks!


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Just Smoke and Me
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2011-10-26 11:46 AM (#5967521 - in reply to #5967299)
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 I won't be here tomorrow so if it's okay, I'll post my question now. I have a four year old that is going really nice on the barrels and is insanely smart. I haven't nessarily had a problem, but I can feel him on the third barrel not "pulling" with his shoulder. He will drive in hard into the barrel and I can feel him put his inside hind leg up under him but them he kinda wants to make that rollback move and hasn't gotten all the way around it to make it work. I can't really explain it the best but the best way I can put it is that I feel like he is not free with his front and striding around it. He is keeping his face soft but I feel the braceiness in his shoulder and quite possibly into his rib cage (at one spot). Any ideas to get him to keep moving? I'm currently working him in a smooth o ring snaffle. Thank you very much for your time!
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2011-10-26 12:13 PM (#5967564 - in reply to #5967299)
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  ill be working so I will post now...First off, I just wanted to say I love Lucy!!! She is the best horse I've ever swung a leg over! After we won hempstead I faxed in my application for my rookie card. 2012 should be great! The only issue I find myself having with her is I've been getting too tight on my left turns...just barely catching the second and at the third we will go by sometimes. What drills can I do to put her back in the right place?
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I_Cowgirl_Up
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2011-10-26 12:29 PM (#5967602 - in reply to #5967299)
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Hello!  Ditto to working tomorrow so here goes.  I have a very on the muscle/hot/free running cutting reject (5yrs old) that i'm patterning.  Rate is a problem for us because he really wants to get ahead of himself although he is getting better.  I've been doing alot of stopping/backing at the rate point and lots of trotting/loping circles around the barrel until it's perfect and relaxed (as he can be) before going to the next barrel.  I currently ride in a twisted Jr. cowhorse.  Draw bits do NOT work for him and he really wants to brace too much on anything with a noseband.  His pattern is very nice/correct i just would like it better if i could get him wanting to rate better on his own.
Questions:
Do you have other bit choices similar to what i'm using that have worked better for you on this type horse?
What other exercises can i do on/off pattern to really get him wanting to rate on his own?
Thank you!
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jctoec
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2011-10-26 12:48 PM (#5967651 - in reply to #5967299)
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Man would I love to spend the day with you :)  You are so awesome!  My question is:  i have a horse that I have been having the same issue for a year now.  I have tryed tons of different bits, has been vet checked more than once and always shows nothing wrong, checked saddle fit, etc etc etc.  I have even tryed to let other people ride him incase it was me.  He usually does  good when we are not on the clock but you never know when he is going to do it , but mostly does it on in competetion.... its like he comits to turn the first barrel and then stiffs me and turns his head the opposite direction and pulls away from me.  The other two barrels are incredible.  I'm at my wits end because he is such an awsome horse other then this one issue.  I have thought about turning him out for several months and not riding him,  do I keep on going with him and hopefully he will stop doing it one day?  Any suggestions or comments will be most greatful.  Thanks
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2011-10-26 12:48 PM (#5967652 - in reply to #5967299)
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I have been watching your training DVD's and they have helped a lot. I have a 4yr old that I want to futurity next fall, he is doing nearly everything right and all his excersizes off the pattern are perfect. Except when he goes into his turn on the 2nd barrel, he seems to drift out and he isn't getting his hip under for the turn. The best way to explain is he starts out going into it just right and when I pick up to ask for the rate, he keeps his shoulders in proper place but his hip moves out instead of in and under him. He isn't doing this on the 3rd (we go to the right barrel first).

What are some things I can do to correct this on and off the pattern? I have slowed him back to a trot and when I feel him drift with his hip, I stop, realign him correctly and finish the turn at a trot. Thank you
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barrelhaybroker
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2011-10-26 12:49 PM (#5967658 - in reply to #5967564)
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DoubleUFarms
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2011-10-26 1:50 PM (#5967799 - in reply to #5967299)
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 Hi Dena,
 
I’ve been watching your DVD’s and seem to have your dry work and barrel positioning down pat in my slow work.  I have been having an issue with getting my horse to actually settle into the stop.  He tends to want to stop abruptly and not really gather up his hind end as much as I think he should and melt into it.  I feel this is showing in his barrel pattern as well.  He works perfectly, hip in, shoulder up, inside leg under him during slow work, but when sped up to a lope/run he has a tendency to start the turn too soon and peg on his front end, which in turn bounces me up.  I do know that I can work harder to hustle him more up into his turn, but the bouncy turn makes it harder for me to recover and be with him to ask him harder as well. 
 
Any tips for getting one to settle or melt into the stop?  Also exercises to keep the ratey horse moving forward up into the turn and not setting up too soon?

Thanks for taking the time to chat with us!
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sassy&tessa
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2011-10-26 2:00 PM (#5967813 - in reply to #5967299)
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Dena-I may not be on while you are here either. 

1) I have a TB that is built and looks like a QH (she is not even 15.1).  I really worked a lot of slow work on her and she turned out really nice.  But I think I did too much slow work.  Speed is not on her mind anymore.  Which is fine because I know it is there.  How would you suggest getting her to get back to being fast without losing her mind?

2) What are the signs you look for in a horse to know if they are going to be ratey or a free runner? 
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dcr31686
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2011-10-26 5:48 PM (#5968279 - in reply to #5967299)
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Good Morning Dena,

My fiance and I have been watching your DVD set and love it. My question is what would I have to do to try to get one of your clinics set up here on the east coast, preferablly here in VA or NC. I know of several people that would attend the clinic but we dont usually have to many here on the east coast. Not just your clinics but clinics in general are very few and far in between here. There are several people that I know of here on the East Coast that love your way of training. Anyway information about getting a clinic set up would be great even if its that you dont travel out here. If you dont want to post on here or if you could please contact me at a later date if its better for you then my email is dcr31686@yahoo.com or phone at 757-477-2338. I will be more then willing to cordinate and set this up if possible. Thanks

Donald C. Roberts III

Edited by dcr31686 2011-10-26 8:09 PM
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