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NCracer122
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2011-10-26 6:38 PM (#5968342 - in reply to #5968279)
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dcr31686 - 2011-10-26 5:48 PM I also will not be able to be online. Good Morning Dena, My fiance and I have been watching your DVD set and love it. My question is what would I have to do to try to get one of your clinics set up here on the east coast, preferablly here in VA or NC. I know of several people that would attend the clinic but we dont usually have to many here on the east coast. Not just your clinics but clinics in general are very few and far in between here. There are several people that I know of here on the East Coast that love your way of training. Anyway information about getting a clinic set up would be great even if its that you dont travel out here. If you dont want to post on here or if you could please contact me at a later date if its better for you then my email is dcr31686@yahoo.com or phone at 757-477-2338. Thanks Donald C. Roberts III

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Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-10-26 7:07 PM (#5968393 - in reply to #5967435)
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polorunner - 2011-10-26 10:08 AM

Dena,

I need some advice on how to work a horse that has a very sensitive mouth. My younger horse is sooo sensitive but VERY broke. He is just very sensitive to the mouth, so you have to ride him with all feet, if you sit, he will put his butt in the dirt, he has an amazing handle on him. Will pick his shoulder up perfect and just moves great off leg pressure, which is where I need help. On the pattern if you try to help him at all with your hands, he gets really aggravated and doesnt want you to touch his face. So how do I sucessfully ride him, any suggestions on how to maybe be able to help him with my hands, or suggestions on how to remember to ride with just my feet. He can smoke a barrel but doesnt want you to touch his face. 

He has had his teeth done, he isnt in pain, he just is a very sensitive horse, and doesnt like any bit with a shank either or curb chain.

Any suggestions would be really appreciated!

Thanks!

Polorunner and Poloracer I feel both your pain!! My gelding is super super ratey, doesn't think he can run (he can) and is super sensitive with his face but broke broke broke off your leg! Talk about frustrating sometimes! I'm really curious to see what Dena has to say!
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concho
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2011-10-26 7:15 PM (#5968417 - in reply to #5967299)
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If a horse suddenly becomes more difficult about picking up their right lead, what would you look at first?
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2011-10-26 7:39 PM (#5968455 - in reply to #5967299)
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 Dena,
I will be working in the morning so here goes! thanks for coming on. Your videos are awesome. i have a gelding that can't make up his mind. one day he is a free runner and the next he is super ratey. geeze never had that problem before. he is young and this is his first serious year barrel racing. He is very well broke with a reiner handle. One problem is he will overturn and stare down the barrel...ooops... he then has to wiggle his rear not to knock it over so he is not in that great of a position for second.Thanks I appreciate any insight.

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AllAroundRider
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2011-10-26 7:57 PM (#5968489 - in reply to #5967299)
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Love your videos! Any tips for a horse that anticipates the second barrel? Sometimes she will start dropping in well before her rate point even and try to go right through the barrel. If I am lucky enough to get her past it when she trys that she gets really far behind the backside of the barrel and then has to rollback to head to third. She is grat in practice but when doing a real run its hit or miss.
Also, what size gullet do you find fits the most of your horses? 
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AZippyHotrod
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2011-10-26 8:23 PM (#5968575 - in reply to #5967299)
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Hi, Dena!

I love your videos!  I have a 5 year old that I broke out as a 4 year old.  She worked great until she had a growth spurt in December.  My saddle started pinching her, so I had to have a new saddle made for her.  The only thing she did to let me know something was wrong was to start blowing out on her left hand turns.  The new saddle fixed the physical problem with her left turns, but she would continue to panic and blow her left turns.  I switched her to taking the left turn first so I could change that mental aproach to the left.  She has taken to the left pattern and is getting more and more confident.  The problem is that she is trying to go too fast at the shows.  She will sometimes panic going too fast and not turn a good turn.  She is panicing and making huge looping turns.  I work her in a draw gag with no problems, but at a show, she will panic and forget her whoa.  I am intending on running her at a cruising speed until she is back working good at the shows, but she wants to really run.  Right now, she is making 2 out of 3 good turns and still clocking in the 4D.  If she turns, they are awsome with excelleration all the way around. 

Do you have any suggestions on what to do to help her settle at the show?  She is level headed and calm in warm up.  Slow at home or away without a show, she tries to turn too early.  I just keep waiting for her to put it together, but maybe you have something that will help me help her? 
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sliddenaround
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2011-10-26 8:23 PM (#5968576 - in reply to #5967299)
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What bit do you go to when your horse knows the basics and is ready to go faster than a high lope? He does keep his shoulders up. He is a little strong, and needs to keep his rear end underneath him and stay collected in the turn a little more. I always go back to slower work. Thank you


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Puddy
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2011-10-26 9:16 PM (#5968737 - in reply to #5967299)
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Hi Dena,  

Thank you for coming on and answering questions for us!!

I have a 10 yr old gelding that is 1/2 second off of the top horses at finals.. (Julie Leggett)  If I dont push him to run and do the pattern at an ok fast gallop (with alot more to give) My barrels are smooth and the whole pattern is smooth... that gives us a 16.7 with the top time being 16.3 in that arena.  

If I ride harder, and push him between his barrels our barrels get rockier and our time stays the same.... so, I am loosing time in the run, or I am loosing time around the barrels.

This is only his 3rd year on the pattern, and he has sooo much more to give and improve upon.  What exercises can I work on to get him to run in between, but smooth around the barrels.  I can have a perfect practise run at home so it is hard to improve in training.. but at our races.. it just doesnt seem to flow?!  

Thank you 
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2stickhorses
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2011-10-26 9:28 PM (#5968769 - in reply to #5967299)
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 Hi, Dena, I really respect your training style.  My question would be what or how do you handle a horse that refuses to go in the gate?  Thanks so much!
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sixpatches
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2011-10-26 9:44 PM (#5968813 - in reply to #5967299)
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  Hi Dena thanks for answering our questions!

  What would you do with a horse that has picked one barrel to not want to turn?  Doesn't matter if it is the first barrel or the second the horse does that exact same thing going to the left or right first.  Doesn't do it going to the same direction if on another barrel.   What excercises/tuning would you do with them? 
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nmracer
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2011-10-26 10:21 PM (#5968891 - in reply to #5967299)
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Dena,

I know you were asked this already, but I wanted to let you know how so many of us are looking for your clinics, do you think you may do a few in 2012? Maybe in the Southwest area? We would LOVE to attend one!
Thanks
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bluerose2001
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2011-10-26 10:37 PM (#5968902 - in reply to #5967299)
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Dena I will be at work as well- Love your DVD set- I rented and watched and it is now on my Christmas list! But I can't remember if you covered a topic.

Preparing a horse for the pattern. I've got a 4 year old that I want to start slow and right! She was broke at two and it appears to have been done right. She was put on a back burner and ridden only about 5 times her 3 year old year due to the owners serious injury. She just turned 4 this month and I've had her 2 months now. She knows the basics, but still rusty on her steering-fading out in some of her large circle loping (D ring smooth snaffle at the moment). How long would you work off the pattern before introducing her or what goals do you have for your horse before introducing the pattern. Any specific exercises to prepare for a pattern. This is my first time teaching a young horse a pattern and my 7 year old was well broke when I started him. I believe you covered some of this info on disc 1 and 2.  Greatly appreciate your time on barrelhorseworld!

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goforit
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2011-10-26 11:29 PM (#5968959 - in reply to #5967299)
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Dena, Do you ever do private lessons at your house?  Like a 2 day private clinic?  Just one on one?  If so, what do you charge for that?  Also, what do you do when a horse begins to start dropping their shoulder at the barrels?  Thanks!
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dcr31686
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2011-10-27 9:29 AM (#5969273 - in reply to #5967299)
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I take it its not eastern time, what time zone yall in?
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Moonchaser
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2011-10-27 9:35 AM (#5969285 - in reply to #5969273)
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dcr31686 - 2011-10-27 9:29 AM I take it its not eastern time, what time zone yall in?

It will be central time. 
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runnin_turquoise
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2011-10-27 9:59 AM (#5969355 - in reply to #5967299)
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Dena,

I have started my young horse on the pattern. She's doing very well in her turns. How do I work on speed between the barrels?
Sometimes she slows down too soon for some of the turns, and I keep kicking, smooching and pushing her, but she still does it. How do I get her to listen to me? It's only at shows.
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dcr31686
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2011-10-27 10:03 AM (#5969369 - in reply to #5969285)
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Moonchaser - 2011-10-27 9:35 AM

dcr31686 - 2011-10-27 9:29 AM I take it its not eastern time, what time zone yall in?

It will be central time. 

Thank you!!
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HorsesNHarleys
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2011-10-27 10:10 AM (#5969397 - in reply to #5968342)
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NCracer122 - 2011-10-26 6:38 PM
dcr31686 - 2011-10-26 5:48 PM I also will not be able to be online. Good Morning Dena, My fiance and I have been watching your DVD set and love it. My question is what would I have to do to try to get one of your clinics set up here on the east coast, preferablly here in VA or NC. I know of several people that would attend the clinic but we dont usually have to many here on the east coast. Not just your clinics but clinics in general are very few and far in between here. There are several people that I know of here on the East Coast that love your way of training. Anyway information about getting a clinic set up would be great even if its that you dont travel out here. If you dont want to post on here or if you could please contact me at a later date if its better for you then my email is dcr31686@yahoo.com or phone at 757-477-2338. Thanks Donald C. Roberts III

 
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Dena Kirkpatrick
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2011-10-27 10:13 AM (#5969408 - in reply to #5968393)
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Roo - 2011-10-26 7:07 PM
polorunner - 2011-10-26 10:08 AM Dena,



I need some advice on how to work a horse that has a very sensitive mouth. My younger horse is sooo sensitive but VERY broke. He is just very sensitive to the mouth, so you have to ride him with all feet, if you sit, he will put his butt in the dirt, he has an amazing handle on him. Will pick his shoulder up perfect and just moves great off leg pressure, which is where I need help. On the pattern if you try to help him at all with your hands, he gets really aggravated and doesnt want you to touch his face. So how do I sucessfully ride him, any suggestions on how to maybe be able to help him with my hands, or suggestions on how to remember to ride with just my feet. He can smoke a barrel but doesnt want you to touch his face. 



He has had his teeth done, he isnt in pain, he just is a very sensitive horse, and doesnt like any bit with a shank either or curb chain.



Any suggestions would be really appreciated!





Have you tried a hackamore of some kind? If you haven't, I would try that. Also, sometimes a combination bit will help to desensitize because it is touching in two different pressure points. Be sure to get smooth mouth piece and short shank. There are some kinds that can be used without curbs.  It is also important to do dry work in the bits you are trying on him. Work on comunicating with him in every way,

away from the barrels, until you  and he figure it out. Then go back to the pattern.  



Thanks!
Polorunner and Poloracer I feel both your pain!! My gelding is super super ratey, doesn't think he can run (he can) and is super sensitive with his face but broke broke broke off your leg! Talk about frustrating sometimes! I'm really curious to see what Dena has to say!


Have you tried a hackamore of some kind? Also, sometimes a combination bit will help to desensitize because it is touching in two different pressure points. Be sure to get smooth mouth piece and short shank. There are som kinds that can be used without curbs. It is also important to do dry work in the bits you are trying on him. Work on communicating with him in every way, away from the barrels, until you and he figure it out. Then go back to the pattern. Hope this helps.  
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okhorselover
Reg. Dec 1899
Posted 2011-10-27 10:19 AM (#5969434 - in reply to #5967299)
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Hi Dena, This is Precious breeder. I just wanted to Thank You for doing your One Smooth Motion dvd. It has helped me so much with not only working with my horse's, but understanding them better also. I have much respect for your methods and my 2 girls are running better since I have started focasing on their body position at the barrel with my slow work.Hope all is well with you & give Precious a BIG hug & kiss from me. It was wonderfull seeing her on your dvd. WE are so proud. 
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