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CanChaser30
Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2014-01-08 2:20 PM (#6912087)
Subject: Grade Vs. Registered


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I know most people prefer registered horses especially for barrel racing but just out of curiosity anyone out there run on a grade horse? I've run on both grade and registered andI personally prefer a registered horse because I like to look at bloodlines.
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-01-08 4:13 PM (#6912239 - in reply to #6912087)
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CanChaser30 - 2014-01-08 2:20 PM

I know most people prefer registered horses especially for barrel racing but just out of curiosity anyone out there run on a grade horse? I've run on both grade and registered andI personally prefer a registered horse because I like to look at bloodlines.

I have ran and won on grade horses before, but now I buy with resale value in mind and grade horses just aren't as easy to sell as registered horses.
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2014-01-08 6:28 PM (#6912333 - in reply to #6912087)
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Heck. It's hard to sell one with royal bloodlines. 
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BarrelRacing4Christ
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-01-08 6:28 PM (#6912334 - in reply to #6912087)
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I don't care if the horse is registered or not if he or she is a good horse.
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BarrelsRmyLife
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-01-08 10:31 PM (#6912560 - in reply to #6912087)
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I personally like registered for different reasons. Mostly because you have an idea of what your going to have when you look at the papers. Don't get me wrong there are royaly bred horses that would go faster if you flipped them on their back and drug them through the pattern by the forelock. But you do have a better idea of what your going to have on your hands vs getting a grade and not having a clue what it truly is. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-01-08 10:52 PM (#6912582 - in reply to #6912333)
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CanCan - 2014-01-08 6:28 PM

Heck. It's hard to sell one with royal bloodlines. 

Depends on the price you are askimg
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Honeymoney
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-01-08 11:57 PM (#6912604 - in reply to #6912087)
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I have always set pretty high goals for myself and my horses. Mine get used. I started out on a grade horse that was 14 hands and rodeoed in college on her. I have always tried to improve on the quality of horses that I own. Since I don't ride as well I as used to I turn the riding over to my trainer. For futurities and registered shows you just about have to have registered horses. Everything that I own now except my babies has an ROM in something. Like I said mine get used.

I think it depends on your personal goals. If a grade horse works for you go for it. If you enjoy futurities and registered shows get registered horses with the bloodlines that work well in your chosen discipline.

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brlbarrels
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2014-01-09 2:07 PM (#6913158 - in reply to #6912087)
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i have two grade barrel horses and one registered. my registered runs about a whole second faster than my grades every time, BUT my grade mare has had her good days, outrunning some high dollar horses when she is sound and feeling really good. but i would put money on my registered anyday because he has ran the best for my. IMO
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rprodeohorses
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2014-01-10 12:33 PM (#6913958 - in reply to #6912087)
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Grade horses you may not know the bloodlines but this does not mean that the horse does not have the ability to be great there r many horses that have amazing bloodlines turn out to be nothing also. It all depends on the horse.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-01-10 12:42 PM (#6913967 - in reply to #6912087)
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I won't buy a grade horse, as there are too many dishonest people, you cannot prove age, breed, or lineage.

There are good grade horses, but I buy young and won't take a gamble with a young grade horse
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2014-01-27 2:44 PM (#6925365 - in reply to #6912087)
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I have a grade QH mix, shs a QHxMFTxArab. 3/4 QH 1/16 MFT and 1/16 Arab. She was just an oops, stud got into her moms field as far as I know. But shes been a blessing, I love her more then anything. She is FINALLY starting to come around to barrels.

Now in saying that, I know a while back there was a girl who made it it the NFR on a grade horse and placed. I know there are TONS of good conformationed(not a word but I made it one today xD) horses. But if you are wanting yo know what you are getting, get registered horse. That way you can see the lines and see if it has potential etc. But take in to account, not all horses who are bred for barrels, will do barrels. Pretty much in all honesty, its the horse who makes it or breaks it. Not the bloodlines, you cant ride papers.
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2014-01-27 3:08 PM (#6925382 - in reply to #6912087)
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I've run both grade and registered.

If looking at prospects or something without a proven history I want registered. The simply fact is that I buy with the idea I'll resell later once it's finished or tuned and starting a nice record so I want something that if it doesn't run top 1D or 2D, usually the papers will help sell it. (Around here people will buy a gelding who can't run a pattern but has a nice set of papers just so they can say I own a horse that's is sired/out of/a grandson of .....)

If it's proven and a gelding I personally don't give too hoots if it has papers. It has the track record and it can't reproduce anyway so I'll look at grade and registered equally. I'm one who will pay equal price for a either a registered or non-registered gelding with the same stats. If looking at two horses of equal training/stats etc I won't pay more for a gelding who is proven and finished and has exceptional papers over a grade gelding who is also proven and finished and running in the same league as the gelding with exceptional papers.

If it's a mare, and rarely do I buy mares (proven or otherwise), I always want papers.
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henderson78
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-02-15 1:56 PM (#6937612 - in reply to #6912087)
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 I only own registered because I look for breeding and resale value, but If i came across a grade horse who was undeniably good at barrels and for the right price then I wouldnt say no to it. But If it were between a registered and grade horse I would go for registered every time.
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Fancie_That_Chrome_
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-02-15 7:52 PM (#6937697 - in reply to #6912087)
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I used to run a 1D Horse, she was FAST FAST FAST and you could head at that barrel at ANY ANGLE and she would turn it and get it done, This mare was FLAT wicked. She is now 19 and retired with a stifle injury. She earned me so much money and gave me so many good runs, she gets to live out her days with me until God calls her home to greener pastures.

THAT being said I would never buy grade again, cause as others said the resale value just isnt there. AND also the fact as others said you can see what you're going to get ( or at least get a good idea).

I bought the mare mentioned above as a 7 year old with a hauling card and all and she'd been with the same family since she was a yearling. The horse industry wasnt what it is now so resale wasnt an issue.

Now however with this economy, resale is ALWAYS an issue. and something to think about
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KayleeAllDay
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-03-21 11:32 PM (#6960981 - in reply to #6912087)
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i dont really care if a horse is grade or registered. ive had a barrel horse that was registered and sucked but had great bloodlines. And i have a gelding that is supposedly registered but no one will give me his papers they claim they were "lost" so i consider him a grade and he places me in the top of the 3D at big races. and at small races in the 1D.
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Rodeodreamqueen
Reg. Feb 2014
Posted 2014-03-23 1:09 AM (#6961402 - in reply to #6912087)
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I don't think there is anything wrong with running a grade horse. To me the only thing useful in having a registered horse is to breed it (assuming it is correct in conformation and structure. Not to mention it must not be a gelding). I have a registered AQHA gelding and the only benefit I have with him, is my eligibility for AQHA shows and futurities, when he was futurity and derby age (which I never was able to do with him, because I didn't own him then). Other than that I could still run him at all the local jackpots, NBHA, High School Rodeo, and YRA if he was "just" a grade gelding.

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dixielandgurl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-03-23 12:31 PM (#6961492 - in reply to #6912560)
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BarrelsRmyLife - 2014-01-08 10:31 PM

I personally like registered for different reasons. Mostly because you have an idea of what your going to have when you look at the papers. Don't get me wrong there are royaly bred horses that would go faster if you flipped them on their back and drug them through the pattern by the forelock. But you do have a better idea of what your going to have on your hands vs getting a grade and not having a clue what it truly is. 

Don't get me wrong there are royaly bred horses that would go faster if you flipped them on their back and drug them through the pattern by the forelock.....





omg, there went the soda i was drinking.....now that is a mental picture..........lol
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barrelbasher
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2014-03-23 2:07 PM (#6961537 - in reply to #6912087)
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If horse had a proven record I would buy it, but I would never buy a grade prospect.
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SwishMiss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2014-03-23 8:26 PM (#6961667 - in reply to #6912087)
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I wouldn't hold it against the horse. It all comes down to how comfortable you are with your ability to see a horses potential. Would I spend 10k on a grade prospect? No.. but for a good price would I take a chance? You better believe it. The clock dosnt care about papers.
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-03-24 12:20 AM (#6961773 - in reply to #6912087)
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I won't own a grade horse simply because there are so many genetic diseases out there now that you won't know they have if they are grade, and unscrupulous horse traders will get rid of their papers and sell them as grade if they're a good looking, nice broke horse and then when the horse collapses or ties up after running, you won't know why. Also, I train for resale, and it's hard to get your money out of a grade horse.
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