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TNcowgirl88
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-08-28 11:21 AM
Subject: Ultr-oz???? Anyone?


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Has anyone ever had any experience with this? Feedback?

A girl that boards her horse at my barn ran into a lady who sells these. She is letter her try it to see if it help her horses fracture. I have never heard of the product but apparently its a low frequency laser therapy system.

Just wondering if it was worth the purchase for her of $1200.00? It is rechargable and you can get insurance on it for $198/yr and it is good to use all over their body for pain.

you can google it for more info as well.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-08-28 12:18 PM
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If I were you, I would save my money. I seriously question the usefulness of this device. Some quack probably cleverly recognized that lasers are not very well understood, albeit fascinating to the average person....almost like one of those devices Dr McCoy used to use in Star Trek....the one that made this odd, high pitched noise....and voilla, cured!
This is a very questionable treatment modality, in my opinion. (I'm trying to say this in a "nice" way!)
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TNcowgirl88
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-08-28 12:27 PM
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I kind of agree with you. I was skeptical and of course the lady only had one sucess story. Everyone these days is coming up with something new that miraculously(sp?) heals.. I appreciate your honesty and opinion :)

it was something that i had never heard of before and there is not a lot on the web about it either...

The horses owner asked me to see if i could find out more so i thought i would come here to hear options. Thank you!!
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-08-28 12:59 PM
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TNcowgirl88 - 2014-08-28 12:27 PM

I kind of agree with you. I was skeptical and of course the lady only had one sucess story. Everyone these days is coming up with something new that miraculously(sp?) heals.. I appreciate your honesty and opinion :)

it was something that i had never heard of before and there is not a lot on the web about it either...

The horses owner asked me to see if i could find out more so i thought i would come here to hear options. Thank you!!

That's smart thinking on your part. They always have "stories" up to wazoo but seldom to they have good evidence that it actually works, and often they can't explain it on a way that makes sense. There is a virtual industry out there preying upon horse people with expensive gimmicks. Everyone hopes that some device will make Nellie turn into Bozo. Lots of myth and lore in the horse world. Kudos to you!
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 5:34 PM
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The Ultra Oz is a GREAT piece of equipment. I have a lot of clients using them with great success. Hagard and other vets have also used them. I have a few videos on my website that explain more about themhttp://www.brandenburgequinetherapy.com/shop/UltrOZ/

Edited by Troy Brandenburg 2014-08-28 5:38 PM
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-08-28 6:33 PM
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Troy Brandenburg - 2014-08-28 5:34 PM

The Ultra Oz is a GREAT piece of equipment. I have a lot of clients using them with great success. Hagard and other vets have also used them. I have a few videos on my website that explain more about themhttp://www.brandenburgequinetherapy.com/shop/UltrOZ/

Serious question here, Troy. Can you provide any links to any studies that have been conducted? I'm talking scientific studies. I still would be very reluctant to recommend that someone spend $1200 on this without some good evidence, besides testimonials, that it actually works. We aren't talking about magnets here.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 8:17 PM
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Hmmm Magnets ?? I guess you must think us all country hicks compared to you. The Quacks you talk about who made this machine is called Cornell University. Sorry but i don't know to many who would call them quacks other then you. The machine is being used in a few vet clinics like Hargard and Rood& Riddle to name 2. As for case studies http://www.brandenburgequinetherapy.com/ultroz-therapeutic-ultrasou... . Then there are some reviews http://www.brandenburgequinetherapy.com/ultroz-elite-system-rave-re... . I am sorry but if a few people on here would do some research they might find that NOT all things are crap, There are a lot of things out side Barrel horse world that DOES work.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 8:18 PM
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By the way from your past history i expect you to disbelieve all this. Thank you.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-08-28 8:50 PM
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I sure wouldn't hesitate to rent this system for a month in a heartbeat if I had a use for it.  
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-08-28 8:59 PM
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Are you talking about ultrasound, or lasers? Ultrasound therapy has been around for a long time. All I am asking is for some scientific validation that your laser device actually works. I might even consider renting one for a month or two myself, Troy.
You have a lot of great things on your website. I just am very skeptical of laser therapy the way it is promoted. You are selling it, so obviously you would react to my posts the way you have. I understand this.
Links to advertisements are no substitute for peer-reviewed scientific literature.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 9:01 PM
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You would love the ease of it. Every one i have rented to has bought one, its so easy to use. Put the wrap on, its the button and walk away. I have a lot of success stories and if any knows me Iam not just saying this because i sell them. I sell them because they work.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 9:04 PM
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Well you had read the anything about machine then you knows a ultrasound machine. Why would you comment if you did not read what it is?
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 9:05 PM
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UltrOZβ„’ Elite is a wearable ultrasonic therapy system for the treatment of common musculoskeletal conditions in horses. Low intensity ultrasound therapy [LITUS] was originally developed as a bone fracture repair therapy for non-union fractures. Scientists and clinicians found that longer duration, low intensity therapy helped to increase the natural healing rate of the body. LITUS therapies later expanded into soft tissue healing applications like tendon and ligament healing. Ultrasound therapy has been used by Veterinarians for decades to treat common soft tissue and bone fracture injuries. Issues treated using ultrasound include:
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-08-28 9:12 PM
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Troy, I have to ask...Have you used it on yourself for the injuries you sustained in your car accident? I would love to try this on my osteoarthritis knee. It would be cheaper to buy this then to get a series of orthovisc injected into my knee. 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-08-28 9:19 PM
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Troy I don't have a problem with ultrasound. The OP is who I responded to and she asked about lasers. You do sell laser equipment don't you? Since the OP referenced lasers, I commented on this as a therapy for pain. Like I said I don't have a problem with ultrasound at all. It's the use of lasers that is pretty controversial, as far as I know. In other words, the jury is still out.
Maybe it does work...maybe it doesn't. If I have $6000 laying around to spend, I can think of a lot more things.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 9:27 PM
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I have not only because i don't want to interfere with what the PT people have been doing. Like most things they have a plan and i trying to follow what they have outlined. They have created a machine that is the same and this is approved by the FDA. HOTBEARlvr i am sorry if i offended you but a lot of people follow what you say and its clear you did not read what the machine was to start with and then you did not read the studies that you asked for, A lot of people might might not find the machine they need because you did not take the time to read. You off all people tell every to study what they talk about.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 9:28 PM
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If you read her Title its Ultra OZ and i do sell Lasers and herbs as well as a lot of stuff that you don't believe in but a lot of other people do.


Edited by Troy Brandenburg 2014-08-28 9:34 PM
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-08-28 9:54 PM
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Sure sounds interesting. 
When you rent one do that apply that towards a new one? 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-08-28 9:59 PM
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Troy, I wasn't interested in the "brand name" of the device, rather, I was commenting on the use of "LLLT" or "low level laser therapy" for pain. I didn't know the "Ultra-Oz" was being sold be you. There are all kinds of brand names for the same devices. It's the actual technology that I am interested, not the brand name.
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Troy Brandenburg
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-08-28 10:08 PM
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That is no excuse for not reading the studies that you asked for. If you had read Any of the studies i posted you would have read ultrasound. You have not said once why you did not read what you asked for?? And i am just repeating what you have said MANY times. I think a few people will be disappointed in you for not doing YOUR research. I know i will be very wary of you claim from now one and from the messages i am getting i am not the only one.
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