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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-09-10 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Cur Ost



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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-10 5:14 PM
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I just wanted to thank Rachellyn80 and Herbie for all the research you have shared with us on this forum. I have completely revamped my feed program and with the Cur-Ost supplements my horse is returning to full health. I cannot tell you how grateful I am to you two!
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-09-10 5:23 PM
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Herbie, where have I contradicted myself on this thread? Maybe I did. If so, please point it out, so I can make a correction or clarification.
I believe you have been through hell with that horse, and I would probably would have done exactly as you have. I would have reached the end of my rope and I would have tried it myself.
I would hope that I've contributed positively to this discussion, at least as far as some are concerned, by suggesting some might want to give pure curcumin a try, and save $$ at the same time. There's always the more expensive option out there. As far as the doctor making a profit, I absolutely love it! This exchange of ideas and opinions is all part of a free market society. Your personal comments comparing me to your father really weren't necessary, and your implications that I have ruined this thread weren't necessary either, but if it makes you feel better. It's the differing opinions that separates a thread from becoming an infomercial.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-09-10 5:35 PM
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 One of the main reasons I'd like to see studies published in mainstream veterinary journals is because you all have seen some dramatic results. 

Further study can spread the word to people in the veterinary field, ultimately helping more horses that had issues like Ricky that were not helped by the traditional treatments, which would be a very good thing. 

It could also lead to more information and perhaps additions to the formula which would have the potential to increase efficacy. 

I hope I have not offended you Herbie as that was absolutely never my intention. I believe you when you say it worked for you. Just because something is not fitting my program or pocketbook does not mean I'm denouncing those that use it. 
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BobbieL
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-09-10 5:41 PM
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I just wanted to thank Rachellyn80 and Herbie for sharing your results and experiences.
I'm trying the HU Ultimate and will go from there. I appreciate you sharing what you have learned so others like myself don't have to. I will update on my results once I get it.
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oranges
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-09-10 6:21 PM
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I have issues I posted in another thread so I've really been looking/reading into a new supplement option. Just like all the others the basic green option of CurOst is $2.00 a day to feed without even seeing what shipping is calculating Out of my budget (If

Hijack - I know this is not the only supplement that costs that much but are people spending about $250-300 ($2/day supplement + hay + salt and water) a horse a month with supplements and feed????
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-09-10 6:36 PM
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 It is expensive at first.  But after you go to the maintenance dose, it really isn't.  You save on other things.  Because you don't need the joint supplements, Previcox, etc.  
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-10 7:03 PM
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Herbie and I have talked back and forth extensively on the horse she is talking about for 2 years. I'm beyond thrilled she has found something that is working!

I know exactly how she feels as I went through the same type of thing with my FWF gelding back in 2005. My miracle was THE and hers has been Cur Ost.

If people would start to add up all the supplements and vet work they do on some of their horses they would probably choke. Nothing is cheap anymore but an expensive product becomes cheap when it works and cheap products become expensive when they don't. The only reason I'm not going to try it is because my horse doesn't have any real problems as the program he is on is working but if I felt a need...I wouldn't hesitate one bit.  
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-09-10 9:00 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-09-10 9:46 AM

barrelracr131 - 2015-09-10 5:48 AM

This was his response (I basically C&P'd the questions I asked on PG 2). He also sent me 6 papers he has written and said are peer reviewed. I haven't looked at them yet, but I will soon. If anyone would like me to forward them along, PM me your email. 

Hi Alison,
 
Thank you for your email inquiry regarding our Cur-OST formulas.  They are proprietary blends and exact levels of the ingredients are not listed on the labels.  The blends are created or were created in our years of veterinary experience, putting together and researching synergism between herbs to accomplish certain tasks regarding health.  Given this, we provide pretty high levels of the herbs found in the formulas, actually much higher than average, as our goal is to obtain results clinically in the patients.  We do keep the levels of each ingredient confidential due to proprietary reasons and years of formula research and development.  
 
In regards to the mushroom blends we use, we focus on 7 main mushrooms including Agaricus, Cordyceps, Lentinula, Grifola, Gandoderma, Coriolus and Poria.  Again, the levels are based on our proprietary blend.  
 
You can look at each product online and click on the specification tab below the product photo, which will give you more information regarding the label and ingredients contained.  In regards to sources for our ingredients, they vary dependent on the ingredient, but each are tested routinely for bacterial levels and heavy metals to suit our specifications, which are quite rigid.
 
I hope this helps.  If I can assist further, please let me know.
 
Thank you.
 
Tom Schell, D.V.M.
Nouvelle Research, Inc.
 

THey do have blends that are not as expensive. Like the Green. I started with that. THen I decided that both my horses deserved the TOTAL SUPPORT. One has issues, one doesn't. I calculated that an ounce of prevention is key here. If I can keep my 4 year old inflammation free, hind gut healthy from the time he is 4 then he might retire sound when he is 30. Vet costs for injections etc are FAR MORE expensive than Curost. I teach High school so not made of money but I will sacrifice so my horses have the best since I am demanding that they destroy their body running barrels doing something it was NOT designed to do. Horses were NOT MEANT to run barrels or have their bodies do what we ask of them... They did not ask to be even trail horses. They give me 100% and I am giving them 100% back./

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-09-10 9:11 PM
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Herbie - 2015-09-10 4:13 PM

Let's see here.  My horse is only 5 and I have been successfully "band-aiding"  this issue since he was a yearling.  Up until this past winter it was somewhat maintable, or so I thought, but he was a pickle to be around.  We didn't call him Tricky Ricky for nothing.  He was always ill mannered, hated to be brushed, cold backed, and just an overall jerk.   He isn't like that anymore at all, so I now know he had other inflammatory issues going on beyond the allergies despite constantly being on an ulcer preventative or medication as well, which I also no longer need.  My goal was not to list all of the products I have used specifically used that were ineffective, as I didn't want to step on anyone's toes here who may use or sell these products, but since you asked.

1.) Lung Aid - had the best success with this as far as diminishing allergy problems, he stayed on it while at the track as a 3 YO and he was on this product when he became so ill
2.) Silver Lining Resp Support - gave it 60 days with no improvement
3.) Wind Aid - used pre exercise to help open airways
4.) Some liquid stuff in a glass bottle that I heard about on here.  Can't remember name - 30 days, conditions worsened, went back to Lung Aid
5.) Tri-Hist/Ani-Hist - No improvement
6.) THE Equine Edge custom blend - 60 days with no improvement, went back to Lung Aid, though I have used Equine Edge with Gastroplus an Muscle Mass in years past with improvement on other horses
7.) Ventipulmin - Doses as high as 8 cc per day
8.)  Dexamethasone- Daily
9.) Two rounds of antibiotics (tucuprim)
10.) Prednisone injections
11.) Nebulizer for inhaled medications
12.) Mustard - showed improvement but not enough
13.) Equine Regen - 30 days with no improvement
12.) Cur-OST - complete turn around in 14 days, but I followed the suggestions of Dr. Schell to a T

Bear, I know you're an educated guy and I respect you and your practice, but please respect the fact that I, too, also have a great education, am a good business woman, and pride myself in being a dang good horse woman.  No one has asked you to purchase this product, and yes, I agree it is expensive, and there is likely a good markup, as there should be and is with any company we buy from.  I just can't put my finger on why you're trying so fervently to prove it isn't what this vet claims it to be.  No one has asked you to purchase the product, no one has asked you to evaluate it, no one has even asked your opinion.  Do you feel the need to try to save us money by offering another option?  I appreciate that, I really do, and i've already looked into that on my own.  Like I said, I have a full box of tumeric powder if anyone wants it.  I did try it, and did get very minimal improvement, just not enough improvement to get me where I needed to be and get my horse out of distress. I didn't go into this blindly, I researched and studied each ingredient in the product, that is why I sound like a "paid advertisement" is because I have done my homework, not because i'm copying and pasting something i've heard someone else say.  If I do copy and paste, I will quote that person and give them credit.

I'm not a self promotor, and I think most on here would agree that I don't get involved in the arguments or the debates that are often circulating, I don't like to stir the pot, i'm not all the time tooting about this or that, I don't do facebook because I don't like the drama, I just like to discuss things with my friends and share our experiences.  I have to wonder if you chastise all feed/supplement companies you buy, or consider buying from with this banter, or if it's just the cost of the Cur-OST that's got you upset?  I spent over $5000 in 3 months on vets in 2 different states along with medications prior to this, had custom formulas made from companies you've praised, and was at my wits end, so honestly I was relieved at the thought of the cost of the Total Support only.....eventually.  It's all relative and to each his own here.  There are certainly less costly ways to implement this program on a horse with no current issues, through the Green or cutting the Total in half, if one chose to do so. 

I'm getting the feeling that you're a "It's my opinion and it should be yours" kind of guy, similar to my father, so it's important that you be right and there is no ending this until I (and others) concede.  OK, you got it.  I concede, despite the fact you have contradicted yourself on this thread.  Bottom line, there may be a better way in a curcurmin blend, you're right, we're always leanring!  But I have personally used the recommendation you've claimed is sufficient in this thread,  and it's not even comparable.  May be enough to sustain a horse with minimal inflammatory conditions, but will not improve a chronic issue enough to restore health. 

You have taken the fun out of this discussion for me personally unfortunately and we can't even enjoy sharing anymore for your constant analyzation or every word we say, and that is unfortunate, as while this program may not be for you, it is for me and others are also seeing these same results.  I admittedly thought maybe my horse was a fluke and it was a miracle, because I sure prayed for one daily, but now others are seeing the same dramatic improvements.  I have my horse back, a horse who they said would surely never compete again and would likely not be able to sustain life if not improved, and you can bet i'm going to share that information with with anyone who will listen....and some that won't.  That being said, I don't care what journal he's published in, I don't need to know the proprietary blend, I am satisfied with the research that has been done.  Naive....maybe, but i'm one happy, happy customer.

With that, i'm out.  Please excuse me while I sip on my snake oil and get back to my rotisserie cooker and slap chop. 

 

Hallelujah Herbie this made my day!!!! I am so very happy you found what helped your horse and that you "have him back" now. I don't know you from Adam, but from what I've read in your posts and what others have said about you on here, I wouldn't hesitate one second to use this product based SOLELY on your word alone . . . .
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-09-10 9:18 PM
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oranges - 2015-09-10 6:21 PM

I have issues I posted in another thread so I've really been looking/reading into a new supplement option. Just like all the others the basic green option of CurOst is $2.00 a day to feed without even seeing what shipping is calculating Out of my budget (If

Hijack - I know this is not the only supplement that costs that much but are people spending about $250-300 ($2/day supplement + hay + salt and water) a horse a month with supplements and feed????

I wish I only spent that much!!!! I have not added up what we spend for our 5 because I don't want to know. They aren't active competition horses either, but I think they deserve the best (what I feel is the best) I can afford because I can't measure how much they give back to me. . . .
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Mousenatownla
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-09-14 1:13 PM
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I swear if I read it "cost $250 a month per horse" I'm going to pull my hair out! How can you even get into the depth of analysis that has been reached without reading the dosage... yes the 2 week loading dose is going to take a whole bag... which is roughly $250 with shipping. Then you will only need one bag per horse per month, which is the maintenance dose and costs roughly $130... easy as pie, right?! And of course there are many people that don't want to or are not able to spend that on their horse. Fine and dandy. The formula that has been priced above and throughout the thread is the total support. If your horse doesn't need that, there is the green. Ok I'm done, I couldn't care less if another soul buys any of it. If someone would like to hear why I feed it I would be happy to share my experience. Bless herbie's heart, she is far more caring and generous than I. I think we are all educated and capable enough to read and make decisions about what we feed our animals, so I'm not going even touch on all that. But Lord help me if I read that it cost $250 a month one more time my head was going to explode. I don't put much clout into someone's opinion that can't even do simple math or just won't take the time to read... and sure, you could give more or less than what we are feeding, but we are seeing drastic results with 2 scoops once per day. So try it if you want, or don't, it's America and we still have the freedom to do what we please for now. I very rarely get on here, so I hate to be harsh and leave but I have better things to do, like ride my horses lol!
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-14 1:18 PM
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Mousenatownla - 2015-09-14 1:13 PM

I swear if I read it "cost $250 a month per horse" I'm going to pull my hair out! How can you even get into the depth of analysis that has been reached without reading the dosage... yes the 2 week loading dose is going to take a whole bag... which is roughly $250 with shipping. Then you will only need one bag per horse per month, which is the maintenance dose and costs roughly $130... easy as pie, right?! And of course there are many people that don't want to or are not able to spend that on their horse. Fine and dandy. The formula that has been priced above and throughout the thread is the total support. If your horse doesn't need that, there is the green. Ok I'm done, I couldn't care less if another soul buys any of it. If someone would like to hear why I feed it I would be happy to share my experience. Bless herbie's heart, she is far more caring and generous than I. I think we are all educated and capable enough to read and make decisions about what we feed our animals, so I'm not going even touch on all that. But Lord help me if I read that it cost $250 a month one more time my head was going to explode. I don't put much clout into someone's opinion that can't even do simple math or just won't take the time to read... and sure, you could give more or less than what we are feeding, but we are seeing drastic results with 2 scoops once per day. So try it if you want, or don't, it's America and we still have the freedom to do what we please for now. I very rarely get on here, so I hate to be harsh and leave but I have better things to do, like ride my horses lol!

My sentiments exactly!
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-09-14 1:33 PM
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Mousenatownla - 2015-09-14 1:13 PM I swear if I read it "cost $250 a month per horse" I'm going to pull my hair out! How can you even get into the depth of analysis that has been reached without reading the dosage... yes the 2 week loading dose is going to take a whole bag... which is roughly $250 with shipping. Then you will only need one bag per horse per month, which is the maintenance dose and costs roughly $130... easy as pie, right?! And of course there are many people that don't want to or are not able to spend that on their horse. Fine and dandy. The formula that has been priced above and throughout the thread is the total support. If your horse doesn't need that, there is the green. Ok I'm done, I couldn't care less if another soul buys any of it. If someone would like to hear why I feed it I would be happy to share my experience. Bless herbie's heart, she is far more caring and generous than I. I think we are all educated and capable enough to read and make decisions about what we feed our animals, so I'm not going even touch on all that. But Lord help me if I read that it cost $250 a month one more time my head was going to explode. I don't put much clout into someone's opinion that can't even do simple math or just won't take the time to read... and sure, you could give more or less than what we are feeding, but we are seeing drastic results with 2 scoops once per day. So try it if you want, or don't, it's America and we still have the freedom to do what we please for now. I very rarely get on here, so I hate to be harsh and leave but I have better things to do, like ride my horses lol!

Thank you, lol

I couldn't even begin to sit down and type a tactful post to address that subject.  It seems that some would rather spend their money at the vet, switching saddles, pads, adding supplements, medicating, and using nebulizers than to fix the problem at the source.

If you're dealing with EPM symptoms, ulcers, colic, body soreness, respiratory issues, and hard keeping horses, then it might be time to take a look at your feeding program and get your horses gut healed so that you can go on with your life.  Don't just take someone else's word for it that your feed is "safe" and they've fed it for years. 
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-09-14 1:35 PM
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Mousenatownla
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Posted 2015-09-14 1:54 PM
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-09-14 2:44 PM
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Mousenatownla - 2015-09-14 1:13 PM I swear if I read it "cost $250 a month per horse" I'm going to pull my hair out! How can you even get into the depth of analysis that has been reached without reading the dosage... yes the 2 week loading dose is going to take a whole bag... which is roughly $250 with shipping. Then you will only need one bag per horse per month, which is the maintenance dose and costs roughly $130... easy as pie, right?! And of course there are many people that don't want to or are not able to spend that on their horse. Fine and dandy. The formula that has been priced above and throughout the thread is the total support. If your horse doesn't need that, there is the green. Ok I'm done, I couldn't care less if another soul buys any of it. If someone would like to hear why I feed it I would be happy to share my experience. Bless herbie's heart, she is far more caring and generous than I. I think we are all educated and capable enough to read and make decisions about what we feed our animals, so I'm not going even touch on all that. But Lord help me if I read that it cost $250 a month one more time my head was going to explode. I don't put much clout into someone's opinion that can't even do simple math or just won't take the time to read... and sure, you could give more or less than what we are feeding, but we are seeing drastic results with 2 scoops once per day. So try it if you want, or don't, it's America and we still have the freedom to do what we please for now. I very rarely get on here, so I hate to be harsh and leave but I have better things to do, like ride my horses lol!
My sentiments exactly!

 
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Turnburnsis
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-09-14 3:37 PM
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mousentownla (sorry if I messed up the name) even though I have seen awesome results with Cur-Ost please share yours!
Thanks
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Breeze'sJockey
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-09-14 7:41 PM
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I've read all the posts about Cur Ost and they just sound amazing.  The stuff sounds too good to be true.  I'm tired of spending money on crap that doesn't work!  Have people tried this stuff and had it not work when they followed the recommended diet?  If you don't want to post on here please send me a PM.

Edited by Breeze'sJockey 2015-09-14 4:09 PM
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BobbieL
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I just started using the Ulitimate for humans. It taste awful and everything in my power to get it down but I can tell a difference in energy levels and soreness. Haven't tried it on my horses yet. I am trying it first for 30 days to see what it does for me.  
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