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MissMary2277
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2015-11-04 3:10 PM (#7213997)
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I want the honest truth (not rudeness! hehe) here please :)
I have my old man up for sale (due to lack of room) otherwise i'd keep him and let him retire.
He is super consistent with his rider. He is push style. With me he will be bottom of 2d into 3d around home and 3d at super shows (just came back from world...ran in 3d both go's) but if a kid were to get on him and just sit there he would be happy just cruising a 4d time.
SAME pattern every trip, no funny business. He will get a little excited in a holding pen or occasionally crow hop going to the pen...but it is never anything un-crontrollable or crazy he just knows his job and is ready to do it.
BUT, he's 19 and understandably has some maintenance requirements.
He was just diagnosed this May with navicular (have records/x-rays/ OsPhos shot record). I did give him the OsPhos shot, he's on a daily regimen of an ounce STP with feed and he has not missed a beat or been off with me since. Even the bein up on concrete stalls did not affect him at world (but yes he did have soft rides on his front feet!)
(He's also been roped off of, trail rides like a dream, pretty fancy broke too)
ANYWAY...my opinion seeking self wanted to know... i have him priced at $3500 due to his age and needs. I am open to ALL reasonable though (is stated in ad ) and i've had several bites just no real serious inquiries it seems. Am i priced too high or is it his age and navicular?

here's the link to his ad.
http://barrelhorseworld.com/horsedetail.asp?ID=318706
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-11-04 3:19 PM (#7213999 - in reply to #7213997)
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could be age, price and navicular
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-11-04 3:35 PM (#7214006 - in reply to #7213999)
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-11-04 3:19 PM could be age, price and navicular

All of the above. 
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-11-04 3:40 PM (#7214007 - in reply to #7213997)
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Seems like he would make a bang up youth horse---maybe the right person hasn't come a long yet. A lot of good ole barrel horses require maintenance at that age.
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-11-04 3:41 PM (#7214009 - in reply to #7213997)
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give it time, someone will come along looking for a good youth horse.
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MissMary2277
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2015-11-04 3:45 PM (#7214013 - in reply to #7214007)
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I do believe he absolutely would! :)
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-11-04 3:54 PM (#7214017 - in reply to #7213997)
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I would for sure educate the new owners on all things navicular tho.... People who have never had a horse with navicular can easily make them do a 180. Maybe writting down instructions or his health routine would be helpful to the new owners. Also, I would for sure give them at least a few weeks worth of supplements that he has to have to maintain his health. Or at least that's what I did with my Navicular boy.... 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-11-04 4:12 PM (#7214028 - in reply to #7213997)
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How long have you had him up for sale? He looks like a really nice fella.  
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2015-11-04 4:28 PM (#7214033 - in reply to #7213997)
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There are plenty of horses in my area in that price range, that age, and that are truly proven kid-safe, that do not require as much maintenance as having navicular will.

That said, I would not pay $3500 for your horse and believe he is priced too high.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-11-04 4:43 PM (#7214037 - in reply to #7213997)
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I do agree with above posters, he might make an excellent youth horse.

I believe it might shy some away because of his price. It's not easy to maintain a horse with navicular, and if he has to have special shoes....that are anywhere from $120-$180 each setting, so 4-6 weeks....that tends to cause people to overlook horses with conditions such as that. (only quoting what I know it costs in my area for a horse with navicular to be shoed with pads.)

 
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BigStarBound
Reg. Oct 2015
Posted 2015-11-04 4:45 PM (#7214038 - in reply to #7214033)
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BamaCanChaser - 2015-11-04 4:28 PM

There are plenty of horses in my area in that price range, that age, and that are truly proven kid-safe, that do not require as much maintenance as having navicular will.

That said, I would not pay $3500 for your horse and believe he is priced too high.

I have to agree with this as well. I'd say $3500 is about the going price for a 19 y/o 3D youth horse without the maintenance. (Most horses that age require some sort of maintenance, but navicular I feel is one of the more serious ones). I'm sure he's a great horse and some kid is going to love him to pieces.

If he were mine (he'd stay in the barn lol) BUT if I had to sell him, I believe I would be more concerned with the home he was going to rather than the money I got for him. I always worry for them when they are hitting their 20s, that whoever they end up with may not serve the horse in its old age as well as that horse has served its owners its entire life. Especially when it's a good one like yours seems to be.
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-11-04 5:17 PM (#7214044 - in reply to #7214038)
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BigStarBound - 2015-11-04 4:45 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2015-11-04 4:28 PM There are plenty of horses in my area in that price range, that age, and that are truly proven kid-safe, that do not require as much maintenance as having navicular will. That said, I would not pay $3500 for your horse and believe he is priced too high.
I have to agree with this as well. I'd say $3500 is about the going price for a 19 y/o 3D youth horse without the maintenance. (Most horses that age require some sort of maintenance, but navicular I feel is one of the more serious ones). I'm sure he's a great horse and some kid is going to love him to pieces. If he were mine (he'd stay in the barn lol) BUT if I had to sell him, I believe I would be more concerned with the home he was going to rather than the money I got for him. I always worry for them when they are hitting their 20s, that whoever they end up with may not serve the horse in its old age as well as that horse has served its owners its entire life. Especially when it's a good one like yours seems to be.

Yes. All of this. I gave my navicular boy back to the man I purchased him from. His grandson rode him around the yard and made his belly fat for the remainder of his life. He was with the boy for a good while getting spoiled rotten. The guy I gave him back to had three with navicular on his property. He gave my boy the best retirement he could've possibly been given. 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-11-04 5:24 PM (#7214047 - in reply to #7214033)
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BamaCanChaser - 2015-11-04 4:28 PM There are plenty of horses in my area in that price range, that age, and that are truly proven kid-safe, that do not require as much maintenance as having navicular will. That said, I would not pay $3500 for your horse and believe he is priced too high.

This ^  I would pay that in a heartbeat if he did not have navicular. We paid 4K for our daughters old man horse- he was 17 and in great shpae for his age.
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GoinJettin
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Posted 2015-11-04 8:06 PM (#7214083 - in reply to #7213997)
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  Navicular is tricky....I've spent thousands of dollars trying to get and keep mine sound. Most people don't understand the additional costs (frequent shoeing, injections, meds) or are unwilling to spend the extra money to keep them sound. Because the disease continues to progress there is now way of knowing how long one will stay sound.I too would be very, very concerned about where he goes. I would be so concerned about him falling into the wrong hands and a new owner not taking care of him properly.

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MissMary2277
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2015-11-05 8:10 AM (#7214155 - in reply to #7214028)
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Southtxponygirl - he's been up for sale for about a month...so not too long really. And yes he's wonderful. I just wish i had the room to keep him!
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MissMary2277
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2015-11-05 8:19 AM (#7214158 - in reply to #7213997)
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Thank you all for your honest input!

I kept the price a little high to ward off the people who would potentially not do him right (that is my main fear when I'm selling ANY horse...especially one who is worth his weight in gold like Cruiser) But i do see some points about it possibly turning away potential buyers because he is older but also has navicular.
So thank you again for your input!
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-11-05 8:48 AM (#7214177 - in reply to #7213997)
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It's only been a month so give it some time. Winter is coming and not as many buy this time of year. While I agree Navicular is a red flag. In alot of cases, if the owner is knowledgable it can be managed with no more than what people pay for other types of injections/maintenance they do on their horses. I have one with Navic issues, he gets his Osphos at 300.00 twice a year and is shod regularly at 60.00. He has no other maintenance issues. However, I know this is not the case in all Navic horses. Be up front and honest about what you to do keep him sound and running. Be willing to come down a little to a potential owner that you know will serve him well.
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