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smoothsailing
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2015-11-10 12:17 PM
Subject: Finally getting omni cubes......


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I've finally located a dealer in my area and will be starting the cubes on Thursday. :)

What do you feed along with your cubes? My horses are on Safechoice original grain but the salesman told me not to feed grain with them. They're also free choice hay. We put out round bales.

So I'm more so feeding as a supplement instead of feeding less hay.




Edited by smoothsailing 2015-11-10 12:19 PM
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-11-10 12:45 PM
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Rice bran.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-11-10 12:52 PM
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I don't feed anything except hay with ours...You'll find that you don't need to.  Safechoice is the right there on the list of the last things I would feed with Omnis Cubes.  It completely defeats the purpose.  

These horses are on cubes only, no grain or supplements of any kind. 




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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-11-10 12:53 PM
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Won't it depend on what your horse needs? If they need more fat, add rice bran. If they need more protein, add your favorite feed accordingly.

Omni cubes are a great source of basic forage based protein. Not to stomp on this, but I'd feed the cube just like I'd feed other cubes. Then supplement accordingly - the omni cubes are not an "end all, be all" feed source as each horse is a bit different in their needs and requirements.

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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-11-10 12:58 PM
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I would suggest you feed two 4 ounce scoops a day, either once a day or split between two feedings. This along with your grass hay will be a great ration.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-11-10 1:02 PM
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lindseylou2290 - 2015-11-10 12:53 PM Won't it depend on what your horse needs? If they need more fat, add rice bran. If they need more protein, add your favorite feed accordingly. Omni cubes are a great source of basic forage based protein. Not to stomp on this, but I'd feed the cube just like I'd feed other cubes. Then supplement accordingly - the omni cubes are not an "end all, be all" feed source as each horse is a bit different in their needs and requirements.

Omnis Cubes contain Oats and Flax Seeds as well.  They are not an alfalfa only cube.  I am feeding them to all classes of horses from yearlings to 30 year old mares and haven't had to add a thing.  The old girls get to eat free choice as they can't really graze or eat hay anymore. 
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2015-11-10 1:17 PM
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Is there a website or any place I can look to see if there is a dealer near me? Google wasn't of much help
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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-11-10 1:32 PM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-11-10 1:02 PM

lindseylou2290 - 2015-11-10 12:53 PM Won't it depend on what your horse needs? If they need more fat, add rice bran. If they need more protein, add your favorite feed accordingly. Omni cubes are a great source of basic forage based protein. Not to stomp on this, but I'd feed the cube just like I'd feed other cubes. Then supplement accordingly - the omni cubes are not an "end all, be all" feed source as each horse is a bit different in their needs and requirements.

Omnis Cubes contain Oats and Flax Seeds as well. Β They are not an alfalfa only cube. Β I am feeding them to all classes of horses from yearlings to 30 year old mares and haven't had to add a thing. Β The old girls get to eat free choice as they can't really graze or eat hay anymore.Β 

Ah, but you just confirmed what I was saying ... supplement/feed accordingly.

I'm betting that you don't feed the same amount of cubes to each horse, right? As ya say, the oldies get free choice ... I'm betting you feed accordingly, and in your instances with your horses, you don't need to supplement. That's great! However, not every horse is going to respond like your group/herd has, that is just the nature of equines, they're all different.

I guess it may have come off wrong, but I was encouraging the OP to critically think about what each horse needs ... and feed each horse what it specifically needs. And, in many cases, those horses may not need anything else.

ETA - There are more than "just alfalfa" based cubes out there ... at our local TSC I can personally get oat/alfalfa cubes, timothy/alfalfa cubes, timothy cubes, and another I'm forgetting right now. And each requires feeding according to the label and your desired result ... just like Omni cubes require.

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smoothsailing
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2015-11-10 1:41 PM
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Thank you!
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smoothsailing
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Posted 2015-11-10 1:42 PM
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I saw on their facebook page. The dealer is about hour and a half away from me but travels to my area every Thursday!
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-11-10 1:42 PM
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lindseylou2290 - 2015-11-10 1:32 PM
rachellyn80 - 2015-11-10 1:02 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2015-11-10 12:53 PM Won't it depend on what your horse needs? If they need more fat, add rice bran. If they need more protein, add your favorite feed accordingly. Omni cubes are a great source of basic forage based protein. Not to stomp on this, but I'd feed the cube just like I'd feed other cubes. Then supplement accordingly - the omni cubes are not an "end all, be all" feed source as each horse is a bit different in their needs and requirements.
Omnis Cubes contain Oats and Flax Seeds as well.  They are not an alfalfa only cube.  I am feeding them to all classes of horses from yearlings to 30 year old mares and haven't had to add a thing.  The old girls get to eat free choice as they can't really graze or eat hay anymore. 
Ah, but you just confirmed what I was saying ... supplement/feed accordingly. I'm betting that you don't feed the same amount of cubes to each horse, right? As ya say, the oldies get free choice ... I'm betting you feed accordingly, and in your instances with your horses, you don't need to supplement. That's great! However, not every horse is going to respond like your group/herd has, that is just the nature of equines, they're all different. I guess it may have come off wrong, but I was encouraging the OP to critically think about what each horse needs ... and feed each horse what it specifically needs. And, in many cases, those horses may not need anything else.

My horses are the ones that are recovering from feed contamination...  I think that's a pretty good testimony to what nutritional value these cubes have.  Mine were not by any means easy keepers.  I have treated for ulcers, EPM, and fed all of the same "fat supplements" that everyone else is suggesting in the past.  Now they are absolutely not necessary.

I'm apologize that I did not include the feeding rate for each horse.  We feed at an approximate rate of 1.5% of body weight, so yes, they all get a different amount.  I don't have anything on the place that requires more than 2% of their body weight...even the old mares that are eating free choice.   The fact that our horses are maintaining their condition even now that they've been put back into training is enough for me to never feed commercial grain ever again.  
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rachellyn80
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Posted 2015-11-10 1:46 PM
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The other cubes that have been mentioned are made with Oat Hay or other grasses... the inclusion of Whole Oats adds a completely different nutritional component.  That's why you don't see the same results with those cubes. 
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smoothsailing
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Posted 2015-11-10 1:50 PM
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They look wonderful
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-11-10 2:22 PM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-11-10 1:46 PM

The other cubes that have been mentioned are made with Oat Hay or other grasses... the inclusion of Whole Oats adds a completely different nutritional component. Β That's why you don't see the same results with those cubes.Β 

Can't believe the change I've seen in 6 weeks! Very satisfying. I'll feed it as long as they'll sell it. Fantastic product!
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-11-10 2:35 PM
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I am glad you are excited to feed Omnis. I have answered above how I would feed it, if I were you. Ultimately, you have to decide how you would like to utilize any feed in your program. Omnis is designed to be versatile. You can definitely feed other things with it, if you would like or you feel necessary. There are a multitude of things that you could feed with it. I would assume that since you are looking to incorporate it, that you are wanting to move away from commercial mixes in general. I have a hard time answering this personally, because I feel I have designed it to be fed alone, in most situations. In such, my first answer would be nothing. However, if you wanted to feed less than 8 lbs or you wanted more fat or energy, I would suggest more oats or perhaps barley for additional starch or rice bran, oil, or renew gold type product. Personally, I am not a fan of beet pulp, but you could add that too. There are generally only 3 basic things you can add to feed, as a energy source: Digestible Fiber, Starch, or Fat. Starch is easy, those are grains. Fat is pretty limited as well, there are a number of oils, seeds, or higher fat by products. You have some choice there. Commercial mixes ussually take a combination of the three. Just a basic overview.


As to all horses needing something different. There are several ways to look at it. By in large, I think most every healthy horse has the same basic nutrition needs. This can be generally accomplished in many ways. Some outliers needs specific rations, but ussually they have a "condition" of some sort. The feed companies have a whole line of feeds with different marketing strategies for intended use, but they generally use the same ingredients or have similar specs. It's been more or less a advertising campaign to convince us that every one needs a special diet, just for that class. In my experience, this is false. (we do add additional crimped outs to our weanling Omnis ratio)

My philosophy for a performance animal is top quality forage first as at least 70% of the total ration. Then you can look at adding a little extra fat and/or a little extra starch, choosing ingredients that compliment the forage and that contribute to a balanced omega 3:6 ratio. This is how we came up with the formula.

In short, only you can decide how it will need to be incorporated into your feed ration. its designed to replace forage, concentrate, and supplemental fats. However, it is intentionally balanced so that you can feed additional nutrient sources with it, to either your horse's or your liking, as an owner.

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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-11-10 3:02 PM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-11-10 1:42 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2015-11-10 1:32 PM
rachellyn80 - 2015-11-10 1:02 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2015-11-10 12:53 PM Won't it depend on what your horse needs? If they need more fat, add rice bran. If they need more protein, add your favorite feed accordingly. Omni cubes are a great source of basic forage based protein. Not to stomp on this, but I'd feed the cube just like I'd feed other cubes. Then supplement accordingly - the omni cubes are not an "end all, be all" feed source as each horse is a bit different in their needs and requirements.
Omnis Cubes contain Oats and Flax Seeds as well.  They are not an alfalfa only cube.  I am feeding them to all classes of horses from yearlings to 30 year old mares and haven't had to add a thing.  The old girls get to eat free choice as they can't really graze or eat hay anymore. 
Ah, but you just confirmed what I was saying ... supplement/feed accordingly. I'm betting that you don't feed the same amount of cubes to each horse, right? As ya say, the oldies get free choice ... I'm betting you feed accordingly, and in your instances with your horses, you don't need to supplement. That's great! However, not every horse is going to respond like your group/herd has, that is just the nature of equines, they're all different. I guess it may have come off wrong, but I was encouraging the OP to critically think about what each horse needs ... and feed each horse what it specifically needs. And, in many cases, those horses may not need anything else.
My horses are the ones that are recovering from feed contamination...  I think that's a pretty good testimony to what nutritional value these cubes have.  Mine were not by any means easy keepers.  I have treated for ulcers, EPM, and fed all of the same "fat supplements" that everyone else is suggesting in the past.  Now they are absolutely not necessary.



I'm apologize that I did not include the feeding rate for each horse.  We feed at an approximate rate of 1.5% of body weight, so yes, they all get a different amount.  I don't have anything on the place that requires more than 2% of their body weight...even the old mares that are eating free choice.   The fact that our horses are maintaining their condition even now that they've been put back into training is enough for me to never feed commercial grain ever again.  

 This should go without saying. Omnis cubes are gaining popularity because they are a pretty darn convenient way to feed oats, alfalfa, and flax. And the fact of the matter is those 3 ingredients are going to be much better for pretty much any horse out there than any pelleted feed. I can't get Omnis here (hopefully some day) but do feed all the same ingredients purchased and mixed seperately (and I also add Renew Gold, just a half pound/day).
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-11-10 3:15 PM
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I drive 5 hours to get my horses shod so I would drive that for a pallet of Omnis cubes to~!
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Posted 2015-11-10 3:47 PM
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Whats the price/bag?
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Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-11-10 3:56 PM
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I pay $14.75/bag, but I live in South Texas so I am sure they are little higher because of shipping. It is still cheaper than buying alfalfa cubes, oats and flaxseed separately. Plus it is do much easier to feed the Omni's - no soaking time!
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-11-10 4:00 PM
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FlyingJT - 2015-11-10 3:47 PM Whats the price/bag?

That varies because of the cost of shipping. I'm all the way down by San Antonio and my local feed store sells it for $14.75 for Mustang Sally Cubes. They don't carry the Omnis. I found a dealer and bought 30 bags and got discount and I really can't remember the exact price but it was about $2.00 a bag cheaper.  
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