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eshahbazi18
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2016-03-23 7:09 PM
Subject: Helping a horse gain some weight.


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My mare is pretty athletic. She is around 9 or 10 and I ride her about 3 times a week for an hour or two not doing extremely vigorous work, only every couple rides. No health issues or anything. I can see her ribs, but she has a very big, quarter horse, muscular butt and is not bony anywhere except her ribs. I don't like the look of seeing her ribs, but I guess if that's healthy then I will have to deal with it. Should I put her on a feeding plan to gain a little bit of weight and muscle or just leave it? I have a couple really knowledgeable, reliable trainers and vets that I can consult, but I'd just like an opinion from someone who barrel races, so I know what a good barrel horse build is.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-03-23 7:24 PM
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Can you post pics. Some of the best fed, in shape healthy TB race horses have ribs showing. Usually you can up their fat if need be if they are being ridden and loosing some weight. What are you feeding her now? 
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Posted 2016-03-23 7:39 PM
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-03-23 8:05 PM
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I would get her off all processed feed. Renew Gold and Alfalfa hay. Then feed ouncesof Vitalize High Performance. You will have a new horse in 45 days.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-03-23 8:08 PM
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eshahbazi18 - 2016-03-23 7:09 PM

My mare is pretty athletic. She is around 9 or 10 and I ride her about 3 times a week for an hour or two not doing extremely vigorous work, only every couple rides. No health issues or anything. I can see her ribs, but she has a very big, quarter horse, muscular butt and is not bony anywhere except her ribs. I don't like the look of seeing her ribs, but I guess if that's healthy then I will have to deal with it. Should I put her on a feeding plan to gain a little bit of weight and muscle or just leave it? I have a couple really knowledgeable, reliable trainers and vets that I can consult, but I'd just like an opinion from someone who barrel races, so I know what a good barrel horse build is.

I have an OTT QH like this that is built very TB- like. I have stared her on 1# foal milk replacer on her feed per day (1/2am 1/2pm) and it has made a world of difference. That being said i covered all bases before just added a supp. Checked ulcers, teeth, worming and diet as a whole.
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eshahbazi18
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2016-03-23 11:46 PM
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I will get some pics tomorrow night, right now I don't have very good ones.
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2016-03-24 1:06 AM
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readytorodeo - 2016-03-23 6:05 PM

I would get her off all processed feed. Renew Gold and Alfalfa hay. Then feed ouncesof Vitalize High Performance. You will have a new horse in 45 days.

This. I don't feed the Vitalize stuff but ditto in Renew Gold and alfalfa.
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-03-24 7:06 AM
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Renew Gold, alfalfa and MEga Oil by Oxygen. She will look amazing.
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countrygirl2006
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-03-24 8:41 AM
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I agree with the others, try to put her on a different feed with good quality alfalfa and get more weight on her. But you may have to try a few different feeds before you find one that works for her. Most everyone on here seems to have had great success with Renew Gold. I agree that it is a good feed and has worked for most of my horses. But I have one that I tried it on twice and both times she lost weight. After the last try with it, I put her on Ultium. She get's 6 lbs a day on it plus the same amount of alafalfa she was getting with Renew Gold, and has really bloomed back. She is very similar to how your described your mare; very big but you could see her ribs and her topline was not nice as full as it should have been. A month and a half later on Ultium, and she looks great.
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Posted 2016-03-24 9:11 AM
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Just out of curiosity, how does rice bran and Renew Gold compare?

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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-03-24 10:13 AM
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Info found on each manufacturers website -


Stabalized Max-E Glo Rice Bran (Manna Pro)
Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein Min 13.0 %
Crude Fat Min 18.0 %
Crude Fiber Max 8.5 %
Free Fatty Acids Max 0.72 %
Calcium Min 1.3 %
Calcium Max 1.7 %
Phosphorus Min 1.5 %
Sodium Min 0.25 %
Vitamin E Min 50 IU/lb
Ash Max 15.0 %

Ingredients - Stabilized Rice Bran, Calcium Carbonate

Renew Gold
Crude Protein Min. 15%
Crude Fat Min. 15%
Crude Fiber Max. 22%
Dietary Starch Max. 10.6%
Calcium Max. 1.9%
Calcium Min. 1.6%
Phosphorus Min. 1.3%
Copper Min. 28 ppm
Selenium Max. 0.9 ppm
Selenium Min. 0.66 ppm
Zinc Min. 22 ppm
Omega 6 Min. 3.7%
Omega 3 Min. 0.8%
Lysine Min. 0.25%
Methionine Min. 0.14

Ingredients - Heat Stabilized Rice Bran, Coconut Meal, Flax Seed Meal, Yeast Culture, Calcium Carbonate
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-03-25 1:18 PM
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~BINGO~ - 2016-03-24 9:11 AM

Just out of curiosity, how does rice bran and Renew Gold compare?


I guess I can best answer this, since I developed both Stabilized Rice Bran for horses and Renew Gold.

First SRB, Stabilized Rice Bran, as opposed to raw rice bran was developed as a direct grain replacement energy source. The goal was to take excess starch and sugars out of the horses diet and replace that energy source with a higher level of natural vegetable fats in a smaller package that better fit the digestive system. It did, and still does, just that. The result is adding additional energy without the roller coaster effect of blood sugar spikes that, in some horses, lead to behavior problems and excess excitability that never translates into better performance. Raw rice bran is rancid, always, and in my opinion should not be fed to horses.

Renew Gold has Stabilized Rice Bran as part of the formulation. However the effect in the digestive system goes beyond grain replacement. Components of the formulation are designed to pick up digestive efficiency through the entire system. Functional improvements in the stomach, small intestine and the hind gut lead to better nutrient uptake, better use of the roughage portion of the diet, and a normalized immune system. The effect is designed to be system wide.

Though they may seem to have similar goals, the two function differently.
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Posted 2016-03-25 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Helping a horse gain some weight.



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winwillows - 2016-03-25 11:18 AM

~BINGO~ - 2016-03-24 9:11 AM

Just out of curiosity, how does rice bran and Renew Gold compare?


I guess I can best answer this, since I developed both Stabilized Rice Bran for horses and Renew Gold.

First SRB, Stabilized Rice Bran, as opposed to raw rice bran was developed as a direct grain replacement energy source. The goal was to take excess starch and sugars out of the horses diet and replace that energy source with a higher level of natural vegetable fats in a smaller package that better fit the digestive system. It did, and still does, just that. The result is adding additional energy without the roller coaster effect of blood sugar spikes that, in some horses, lead to behavior problems and excess excitability that never translates into better performance. Raw rice bran is rancid, always, and in my opinion should not be fed to horses.

Renew Gold has Stabilized Rice Bran as part of the formulation. However the effect in the digestive system goes beyond grain replacement. Components of the formulation are designed to pick up digestive efficiency through the entire system. Functional improvements in the stomach, small intestine and the hind gut lead to better nutrient uptake, better use of the roughage portion of the diet, and a normalized immune system. The effect is designed to be system wide.

Though they may seem to have similar goals, the two function differently.

Thank you for the information! Will be turning to RG next week!
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