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QHriderKE
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2017-04-20 10:33 AM (#7340884 - in reply to #7340644)
Subject: RE: Help us get into the 1D!



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^^ Thanks!

I know I just have to get out of her way and let her do it, but it's so hard to break the habit of baby sitting. I'm going to exhibition or just haul to a new arena and treat it as a jackpot a couple times so I don't have to worry about time, and just practice finding the right spot on the second barrel for her.

Are my reins too long all the time? Cause when I breezed her through in a snaffle I was using split reins, lol.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-04-20 12:01 PM (#7340916 - in reply to #7340644)
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Look at the riders on these two horses. The young lady on the bay bought the horse trained. The girl that sold the horse works with her weekly so that she rides the horse the same way every run. Will post several videos so watch her hands. The young lady is currently standing second in her region in college rodeo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRqg2OlFbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADlxrR9Qbc




This is a different horse but watch the rider. She rides the same way every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQahg8qIDDo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXC_xD8HNLw




Both of these are young horses. Both are in the top 5 or 6 in horses the 1D running against 500 to 700 horses. Also, notice there is no wasted motion in any of the turns. Both are super nice horses.

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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2017-04-20 12:41 PM (#7340935 - in reply to #7340884)
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QHriderKE - 2017-04-20 10:33 AM ^^ Thanks! I know I just have to get out of her way and let her do it, but it's so hard to break the habit of baby sitting. I'm going to exhibition or just haul to a new arena and treat it as a jackpot a couple times so I don't have to worry about time, and just practice finding the right spot on the second barrel for her. Are my reins too long all the time? Cause when I breezed her through in a snaffle I was using split reins, lol.

Watching this run
https://youtu.be/N-i0CUrvzhg
Your reins are way too long. Look at how out in space your hand goes.



Ideally, your hand should be staying near or around your saddle horn. Again, you are just GUIDING your horse. You should be making smooth quiet cues. Right now, you are moving your hand way too much.

For example, with the video in question, watch as you approach your 2nd barrel. Granted, you had to "fix" coming out wide from your first, but you have your inside hand on the opposite side of her neck trying to hold her off the 2nd barrel (instead, use that inside LEG ... not your hands). Crossing your inside hand over the neck often will make them dive that shoulder in. Then, when you get to the barrel, you are yanking your hand very suddenly to turn her, and moving your hand from the opposite side of her neck to WAY out to your left very quickly. That's what makes that turn so choppy and she's bouncing all over the place.



Also, watch your body position. You tend to lean alot.

Your best body position is actually on the first barrel, as far as you sitting nicely (you just sat way too late......) and staying fairly quiet with your body around the first. You don't lean very much on your first barrel, but are leaning foward and inside on your 2nd and 3rd. Stay centered.



 
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2017-04-20 12:44 PM (#7340936 - in reply to #7340916)
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streakysox - 2017-04-20 12:01 PM Look at the riders on these two horses. The young lady on the bay bought the horse trained. The girl that sold the horse works with her weekly so that she rides the horse the same way every run. Will post several videos so watch her hands. The young lady is currently standing second in her region in college rodeo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRqg2OlFbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADlxrR9Qbc... This is a different horse but watch the rider. She rides the same way every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQahg8qIDDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXC_xD8HNLw... Both of these are young horses. Both are in the top 5 or 6 in horses the 1D running against 500 to 700 horses. Also, notice there is no wasted motion in any of the turns. Both are super nice horses.

Great examples. OP, look at where this rider is keeping her hands (quiet and low). That's what you should work toward. And yes, shorten your reins!!
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dream_chaser
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2017-04-20 1:41 PM (#7340953 - in reply to #7340644)
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 Not sure how far you are from Ponoka, Alberta...as I see you're in SK. Charmayne James is coming there in May and I believe are looking for more participants. Look on the Everything Barrel Racing Alberta Facebook Page.
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2017-04-20 1:55 PM (#7340954 - in reply to #7340916)
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streakysox - 2017-04-20 12:01 PM Look at the riders on these two horses. The young lady on the bay bought the horse trained. The girl that sold the horse works with her weekly so that she rides the horse the same way every run. Will post several videos so watch her hands. The young lady is currently standing second in her region in college rodeo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRqg2OlFbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADlxrR9Qbc... This is a different horse but watch the rider. She rides the same way every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQahg8qIDDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXC_xD8HNLw... Both of these are young horses. Both are in the top 5 or 6 in horses the 1D running against 500 to 700 horses. Also, notice there is no wasted motion in any of the turns. Both are super nice horses.

I know that duo! :)  He is special but so is the jockey and trainer. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-04-20 2:34 PM (#7340964 - in reply to #7340644)
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This thread is like DaJaVu,, LOL...
A good clinic to help you, your horse seems to be doing good, but to me its all about timing and hand placement..  I remember when all this was discussed once befor.  


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Rough-up cowgirl
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2017-04-20 2:40 PM (#7340965 - in reply to #7340644)
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I will say that a good clinic can be worth every penny! I was recently able to attend 1 with 3 NFR qualifiers and it really helped me fix my riding. Now they didnt really go over anything I wasnt aware of..... but I def wasnt doing what I needed to in my riding (both running and dry work). Fixing a few things has made a world of difference. My horses are working so much better and I'm riding so much more confidently! My horses are young experience wise so my confidence is really helping them step up. Excited to enter and see where we are. 
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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2017-04-20 4:34 PM (#7340993 - in reply to #7340644)
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Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-04-20 4:52 PM (#7340998 - in reply to #7340993)
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RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.

Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks.   I agree it is worth every penny.

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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2017-04-20 5:29 PM (#7341002 - in reply to #7340998)
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RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.

Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks.   I agree it is worth every penny.

Exactly!! Even my trainers bump ideas off of each other because they ride and train very differently! One thIng I've been blessed to learn is how to ride and train the different styles, it's not easy running 2-3 different turning styles/running styles etc! I often over ride my open horses because I'm in "training" mode lol
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-04-20 8:35 PM (#7341038 - in reply to #7341002)
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RnRJack - 2017-04-20 5:29 PM

rodeomom3 - 2017-04-20 4:52 PM

RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.

Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks.   I agree it is worth every penny.

Exactly!! Even my trainers bump ideas off of each other because they ride and train very differently! One thIng I've been blessed to learn is how to ride and train the different styles, it's not easy running 2-3 different turning styles/running styles etc! I often over ride my open horses because I'm in "training" mode lol

I have trained my own horses for 50 + years. I learned 40 years ago to get help when you need it. The buckskin horse in the videos is my horse. She lives at the trainer's. Her little sister is my ride. Same person trained her. Makes life so much easier
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2017-04-21 10:10 AM (#7341120 - in reply to #7340998)
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rodeomom3 - 2017-04-20 4:52 PM
RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.
Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks.   I agree it is worth every penny.

I agree!

I routinely go ride with a reining trainer in my area. He knows how to get a horse using it's body correctly and it has been very beneficial for our barrel racing!

And pumped I get to go to both a Ryan Lovendahl clinic and a Jolene Montgomery clinic this summer!

You never stop learning.

 
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