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From Heeling to Barrels... Is it worth continuing?
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-04-16 1:46 PM (#7393075 - in reply to #7392562)
Subject: RE: From Heeling to Barrels... Is it worth continuing?



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Ok, I think I am the odd man out on this one. With watching the videos, it seems like she enjoys the heeling more and puts more of her heart into it. The barrel videos look to me like she's just doing the course to satisfy you. Hard for me to explain. I too am not sure she has much room for speed improvement based on her size and movement. Just my opinion, for whatever that is worth. If you enjoy it, go for it, by all means, but to me she just doesn't seem like her heart is in barrels.
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2018-04-16 1:58 PM (#7393081 - in reply to #7393073)
Subject: RE: From Heeling to Barrels... Is it worth continuing?



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barrels12 - 2018-04-16 1:44 PM

dashnlotti - 2018-04-16 12:08 PM

OK so my 5yo prospect is also husband's heading prospect LOL...we're in a custody war currently.
Anyway, hubby and I ride differently, and it's taken time for him to adjust to each of us, and figure out what I'm asking him to do.
Like someone else mentioned, I had to teach him to elevate his shoulders more, he's naturally very low, and he does wear a tie down when roping (like your mare) and that gives them something to brace on. With no tiedown, they kinda get dumpy in the front (think-leaning/looking for that brace). Lots and lots and lots of slow work just driving his hip under him. It's simply two very different events that they use their body differently for. Can they do both good? Yes. Can they excel at both? I'm not sure but I guess I'll find out bc neither of us wants to give him up LOL.

I do know this...when I have a barrel race, I'm the only one that rides him for that week prior, same when hubby wants to take him to roping practice - he rides him all week and I stay off to try and not confuse him from day to day.

She looks like she has a great start, but I don't see her reaching up under herself with that inside hind (picture Martha)...lots of walking perfect circles helps with that IMO. I think there's a lot you could do OFF the pattern that will translate to your run...and definitely go breeze her a couple times!

YES! We are in the same boat! He loves her and I do too so we have to plan things accordingly like divorced parents on who gets to take her when! Lol.

But thank you for the feedback! Ill have to start doing some circles and try to keep that shoulder up. I can actually feel her brace against me sometimes so I put her in a softer bit since she is already very touchy so we shall see how that works out too!

Once I can keep her in shape with this crazy Texas weather I am definitely going to breeze her hopefully that will her also!


Squares are amazing as well for shoulder/hip control.
I ride mine in a draw bit with split reins and get his nose tucked and really drive drive drive his butt.
It takes time but he is getting there. Sometimes he remembers it's a speed event, and sometimes he just stops running mid run LOL...but I'm not pushing him at all at this point.

He's been 3-4D his first 3 shows, this past weekend was our state show and I figured why not enter, Talmadge won it on Bully By Design and we ran 2.5 seconds off...not bad at all in my opinion lol.

Thank goodness he isn't finished on the head side or I'd get him a LOT less HAHA, right now he just goes to the practice pen and small playday type rodeos.
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2018-04-17 7:57 AM (#7393165 - in reply to #7393074)
Subject: RE: From Heeling to Barrels... Is it worth continuing?



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barrels12 - 2018-04-16 12:46 PM

FlyingJT - 2018-04-16 12:41 PM

Have you checked your saddle fit? The way she runs for your husband and the way she runs with you, are completely different. Maybe your saddle pinches her shoulders and she evading it. Try putting his saddle on her and work her and see if she lifts her front end up any.

I actually did get a new saddle right after I started her on barrels but they looked like they fit her the exact same. But yes I will try switching back or using his just to test the waters!

That's what I was thinking. Let us know how that goes!
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AshleyJ2911
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2018-04-17 8:07 AM (#7393168 - in reply to #7392562)
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I think she just needs to get her confidence up.

and swim her, it will help with her stretching and running
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2018-04-17 3:33 PM (#7393300 - in reply to #7393075)
Subject: RE: From Heeling to Barrels... Is it worth continuing?


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horsegirl - 2018-04-16 1:46 PM Ok, I think I am the odd man out on this one. With watching the videos, it seems like she enjoys the heeling more and puts more of her heart into it. The barrel videos look to me like she's just doing the course to satisfy you. Hard for me to explain. I too am not sure she has much room for speed improvement based on her size and movement. Just my opinion, for whatever that is worth. If you enjoy it, go for it, by all means, but to me she just doesn't seem like her heart is in barrels.

Ditto..........this is not her cup of tea.

 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-17 4:08 PM (#7393303 - in reply to #7393300)
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Frodo - 2018-04-17 3:33 PM
horsegirl - 2018-04-16 1:46 PM Ok, I think I am the odd man out on this one. With watching the videos, it seems like she enjoys the heeling more and puts more of her heart into it. The barrel videos look to me like she's just doing the course to satisfy you. Hard for me to explain. I too am not sure she has much room for speed improvement based on her size and movement. Just my opinion, for whatever that is worth. If you enjoy it, go for it, by all means, but to me she just doesn't seem like her heart is in barrels.
Ditto..........this is not her cup of tea.



 

My thoughts too she like's running a steer, she can really poor it on coming out of the box.  
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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-04-19 10:31 AM (#7393513 - in reply to #7392562)
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How long has she been a heel horse and you have had her going 4 months now on barrels correct?
 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-19 10:39 AM (#7393515 - in reply to #7392562)
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barrels12 - 2018-04-12 3:17 PM So I fell in love with my fiance's little mare that he team ropes off of... I started riding her when he was roping on his other good mare and took her through barrels just for fun while I was searching for the "right" barrel horse. She was so snappy and could bend out of this world. Obviously she had never seen barrels before but she felt so good, so I started taking her to a few races. This all happened within 4 months, and after her 4th race she placed 1st in the 4D. Me being proud of her I kept hauling her but she will not run as hard as when my fiance` team ropes off of her.... I CANNOT for the life of me get her to run anything under an 18.... My fiance' can turn steers on her/or have them heeled down in 7 sec. or under so why will she not run hard for me? She is about 14.1 or 14.2, pretty small mare but I know she can run... Maybe she just hates barrels or maybe its just too early for her to get it down (6 months into running barrels at this point and time). HELP

You know 6 months is not very long she may just need to get seasoned more befor she learn's she can run harder, but to me I think she really likes the steers and just will be better at steers. 
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Sockittoemred
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-19 12:12 PM (#7393533 - in reply to #7392562)
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I think she lost a full second in her turns on that first video. Looks like she is trying for you. I would snug those turns up and just keep running her. At 14.1hh and short backed she does not need much room to turn. I think she looks choppy because she is having to run so far around the barrels. She will get more confident and quicker with some seasoning. I would not nit pick on her or spank her every stride. Looks like she wants to work to me and I don't see unsoundness either.
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barrels12
Reg. Apr 2018
Posted 2018-04-19 2:06 PM (#7393553 - in reply to #7393513)
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cindyt - 2018-04-19 10:31 AM

How long has she been a heel horse and you have had her going 4 months now on barrels correct?
 

She was broke as an 8 year old broodmare so ever since then shes been a rope horse. I started running barrels on her around July or August so 7 months now i guess? I've only entered her 6 or so times. I haven't entered her since December just because I feel like she needs more work at home or just exhibitions.
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barrels12
Reg. Apr 2018
Posted 2018-04-19 2:11 PM (#7393556 - in reply to #7393533)
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Sockittoemred - 2018-04-19 12:12 PM

I think she lost a full second in her turns on that first video. Looks like she is trying for you. I would snug those turns up and just keep running her. At 14.1hh and short backed she does not need much room to turn. I think she looks choppy because she is having to run so far around the barrels. She will get more confident and quicker with some seasoning. I would not nit pick on her or spank her every stride. Looks like she wants to work to me and I don't see unsoundness either.

YES! To me we lose ALOT of time in the turns and I am not sure how to fix that! I usually let her work and try not to yank her around in the turn because she is very touchy already. I really do believe she tries hard just needs some confidence.
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