Posted 2018-07-11 11:32 AM (#7402059) Subject: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Location: The Lone Star State
Did they finally get to a point that they quit getting humpy? What did you do to "get by" them and turn them into successful barrel horses? Are you competing on them ? Were they destining themselves to forever being lunged?
Im not talking about all out broncs, just the ones that are honest about it when you first saddle, maybe a little humpy, not every time but after some time off etc. but once they get past the first 20 min they never do it. Were you able to ever trust them to make pressure runs?
Posted 2018-07-11 11:39 AM (#7402061 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK
There’s a reason why he’s doing that. It can be due to ulcers, soreness in the front end, Kissing Spine, PSSM.
I never consider being cold back “normal” and will alsways try to figure out what’s causing it.
Posted 2018-07-11 11:51 AM (#7402066 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Married to a Louie Lover
We have one who if you don’t warm him up well before you run your first steer he might be a bit fresh, he might not.
We also have his back injected for kissing spines.
The 2 are 100% connected in my mind and if it’s something that doesn’t seem to be “trained out” in a reasonable amount of time and the horse is otherwise a good minded citizen, I’d get a back X-ray done.
Posted 2018-07-11 11:53 AM (#7402067 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
If it's truly just a cold backed horse, like you described, than there shouldn't be a problem with making a run after the first 20min of warm up. I had one that was very honest about it, the first moment you stepped on him he was going to blow. After he crow hopped a little then he was good the rest of the day. I trusted that horse with any situation I put him in as long as it was after the first 5 minutes. He was probably the most consistent thing I had at the time, 110% effort every time. It was just his thing, if you were prepared and ready it was nothing, if you weren't you'd be in the dirt and I swear you could hear him chuckle!
What I won't have around are those that are unpredictable. Had a great big Harlan/Hancock gelding that would blow up randomly and he didn't just hop around! Sometimes he'd do it when you first got on but most of the times it was random. we'd be working cattle all day and be headed back to the trailer and he'd cut in two, or rope 10 head and be fine then on the 11th he'd try to kill ya. I could never figure out the trigger because it was always so random, sent him down the road.
Posted 2018-07-11 11:54 AM (#7402069 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
A Somebody to Everybody
Location: *TEXAS of Course * Seguin*
I had a cold backed horse once he just hated the saddle pad I was using, it was to stiff for him, changed it out and I didnt have a cold backed horse anymore. Never did I have a problem with him untill I bought a banana pad cause I was told this was the best pad ever, wrong, lol..
Posted 2018-07-11 12:13 PM (#7402075 - in reply to #7402069) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Reaching for the stars....
My 14yo stallion Zan will throw in a very little and silly hump between the first and second barrel if I ask for any speed before he's warmed up. This has been since he started, with 3 different saddles and many different saddle pads. He's never done it in any situation, but 9 years later he'll still do that. It's kinda like riding the grocery store horse more than a real buck.
Posted 2018-07-11 12:21 PM (#7402077 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Location: The Lone Star State
I should have added hes never bucked with me on him and the only time he even humps is like if I just chunk the saddle on him suck it up and lunge him. Its not a sore issue hes done it from day 1 with the trainer but only in the first few minutes. Also he is 3 and a Frenchmans Guy lol!
Posted 2018-07-11 1:00 PM (#7402089 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
I had one! Lol. He is an awesome 3yo now.
This colt was cold backed as a 2yo being broke. At first it was funny because he didn’t know how to buck, then he learned how 0.o he never did buck me off but he beat the crap out of me with the saddle a few times. When I got off him in the fall of his 2yo year with about 30 rides he was still inconsistent on wether he would buck or not. I partially blamed it on his breeding, and partially on not having a saddle wide enough for him (fit wasn’t THAT bad).
In the spring of 3yo (this year) I didn’t ride him until I had a better fitting saddle (he’s wide and flat as a cow) and he hasn’t bucked at all.
1. He is out of a super sweet stallion that was as cold backed as they come as a colt. He went through numerous trainers before being considered “broke.”
2. This colt was lazy, never malicious. He just did it. Didn’t get mad about it.
3. This colt is by far one of my favorite, most talented colts I have had. His bucking (assuming because he never threw me) never made me want to send him packing. I always had a gut feeling he would get over it.
Posted 2018-07-11 6:37 PM (#7402132 - in reply to #7402089) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Location: The Lone Star State
yep that sounds like mine. I just make sure mines not fresh and off we go but I was just curious. When I take him to a barrel race to ride him around I lunge him before I go and put him in the trailer with the saddle on. seems like the longer he wears it the better he does. maybe it tickles lol. My saddle is a martin fx3 newer one thats 7.5 wide so I think it fits him pretty good he never pins his ears when I saddle or push around on his back. Hes a super nice colt just a little attitude now and again. We will keep at it.
Posted 2018-07-12 1:49 AM (#7402151 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Take a Picture
I had one 40 years ago. I know there was nothing wrong with him. He just loved to buck. He would be in the pasture and I would see him out there bucking like crazy. You could lunge him for hours but you better be prepared to ride when he broke into a lope. Once he got that out of his system he was hard to beat in Barrels, poles or western pleasure. His name was Joes Hornet. We used to laugh about that all the time because I called him Hornet. I am sure he is in heaven giving some saddle bronc rider a heck of a ride.
Posted 2018-07-12 6:05 AM (#7402154 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
Queen Bean of Ponyland
I have one. Chiro does wonders for her. I massage her posterior pectoral muscles prior to cinching and try to put my mix of dmso and other goodies there after I ride. Front leg stretches also help. I take my time cinching. I lunge her each time I saddle. I use a treeless with a soft flexible navajo pad, no rigid pads.
She is doing good. Works an awesome pattern. I am competing on her. She is 9 this year and was only really broke as an 8 yr old, was a broodie prior to me getting her.
Posted 2018-07-12 1:56 PM (#7402224 - in reply to #7402059) Subject: RE: Tell me about your cold backed horses?
I've had a two really good horses that were like that. They took A LOT of riding, and not many days off as young-ins, both of them came out of it as they got into their prime, but as they got older and needed maintenance, they would hump up on cool mornings because they were spoiled and felt really good! It would make me happy actually because I knew they were fixing to smoke a run. Now, neither of them actually bucked me off, nor ever bucked when being ran/roped on. They knew their job and there was no funny business, they could just be a little squirrely when you first threw a leg over. I don't think I would keep one that would sell me out in the middle of competition (if they were warmed up properly and keeper didn't break or anything like that)