Posted 2018-08-07 7:24 AM (#7404493) Subject: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
How does it work? I know that's a totally open ended question. I have a yearling that I have super high hopes for. I want to get him broke, and started and then send him to someone later down the line that will do him more justice than I can. I know each trainer is different, but I have no info on sending a horse to a trainer that needs to be hauled. I have only heard the works of how colt starters charge.
Is that still a flat monthly rate? Who pays fees? Who keeps the winnings? (I'm sure its split, but how?) I guess I'm also interested in trainer in OK-TX area. I will be super picky. I'd rather keep him and make him a 2D horse myself than risk someone screwing him up or starving him because I want a 1D horse.....
Posted 2018-08-07 8:15 AM (#7404496 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
We start colts they all go outside work cattle. Barrel's may be the last thing they see that day. Keep it fun. Not a pattern horse. We ride calf barrel and cow horses. Only ride 5 head outside horses. As go along you have to come get on and ride the horse. We drive every colt first hobble them. They have a job.
We start and finish horses.
Posted 2018-08-07 9:00 AM (#7404502 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
Location: Gainesville, TX
Send them out to get broke like you normally would. Then you can send them to a barrel trainer. The trainer will generally keep them a while (a year or more) if they are going to compete on them for you (it's a lot of money invested). Generally you pay a monthly rate (based on 25-30 rides); you will also have to pay for farrier and vet. You generally pay the entry fees. Winnings (after entry fees are reimbursed) are generally split based on a proportion you and the trainer agree on. 50 percent is fairly usual. Though some may do do 25 percent and others more. Its a good idea to establish ahead of time who gets prizes (saddles, buckles, that sort of thing) too. But it all starts with a good colt starter.
Posted 2018-08-07 10:43 PM (#7404576 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
Take a Picture
You need to pick a trainer and get them them. For instance my trainer just wants them rideable. Doesn’t really want them to know too much because she doesn’t want to retrain them to her way of doing things. Your trainer will tell you how they split any winnings. This is kind of vague but each trainer does things their way.
Posted 2018-08-08 2:51 AM (#7404578 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
We have a filly that we also have high hopes for, and after talking to a close friend of mine that trains barrel horses, and has had great success at the high school, college, pro and futurity level, she explained it a bit to me. You want the best start possible, get the horse into the hands of someone you trust completely to start your horse so it has a good foundation and (hopefully) won't turn into a ramrod. We are thinking about 30 days as a 2yo, then turn our filly out until she's three, and bring her back in at that time, unless she's not ready to start at two, and then start her at three. Then send her off to the trainer, who will decide if she's cut out for the futurities, and go from there.
I would first start by asking around and see who's starting the horses around you that you would want your colt to emulate the style/training of, and get ahold of that trainer so you can start asking them questions and even see if they're willing to take on another horse. At that point in the conversation, I would bring up all these questions you have and get your questions asked sooner rather than later, so you know what you're getting into, financially and emotionally, etc.
As for a trainer in the OK/Texas area, I can't help you there, sorry!
Posted 2018-08-08 8:00 PM (#7404661 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
Find a trainer that rides similar to your style so that you can easily ride behind. Discuss your goals with them. Facebook is a wonderful tool to search a trainers name and see what pops up. I know several big name trainers around me charge a monthly rate that includes riding, feed and hay. Then you pay in addition to vet needs, shoeing, split gas with the load and exhibitions or/and entry fees. If your horse wins they usually deduct that from the expenses.
Posted 2018-08-09 12:13 AM (#7404670 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
My son (Riley South) works for Victory Farms in Ada, OK. He starts their colts, patterns them, and also competes on them. He and his wife Shannon take outside horses from the start to the finish. He doesn't like ridingafter someone else very often. He likes them to have a better handle than most people want to put on one.
Posted 2018-08-09 1:34 PM (#7404728 - in reply to #7404702) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
Location: Sperry, OK
moorehorses - 2018-08-09 10:13 AM I can highly recommend Liana D on this board in OK, others on this board will also agree with her. She is AWESOME!!! Her name is Liana Deweese.
There is no one other than Liana I would send one to, if I had one that needed trained. I have a horse off the track now, I am going to see how he responds to me, if its a no go... he will be put on Liana's list.
Posted 2018-08-09 4:16 PM (#7404768 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
If you really want a reliable trainer, that has a high chance of turning him onto a 1D horse, I would be in contact now. Top trainers usually have waiting lists and I would want the horse to be started by someone they suggest, who might also have a waiting list. If the horse has potential beyond just your eyes that will help. Trainers obviously prefer to take in horses with higher potential. If the horse isn't broke the way they want it that will put them behind in training.
Posted 2018-08-09 6:43 PM (#7404776 - in reply to #7404493) Subject: RE: sending a horse to a barrel trainer in OK-TX
Randy Jarvis. He is fantastic. Has very soft hands with a horse & a soft approach. He won't yank the heck out of your horse. He has started 4 horses for me. One who I am keeping " slick by design" as this colt is the best trained & I can ride behind Randy. He now has my firewater Ta Fame filly & we are seeing good things ahead for her next year as a 4 yr old. My horses were well fed & well cared for with Randy & his assistant Cody Ward. I won't let anyone start my horses except for them. And Liana Deweese is wonderful as well.