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Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-09-19 10:52 AM (#7408288)
Subject: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?


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With the new incentives like Pink Buckle and Blue Collar, are some of the others becoming irrelevant? Thoughts?

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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2018-09-19 11:18 AM (#7408293 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes now irrelevant?





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No. In fact is its growing in popularity our area as more and more races up here are becoming FF.

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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-09-19 11:39 AM (#7408298 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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i just paid my weanling into FF.  I am debating on pink buckle.........  I have until Oct.  1st.  Whats everyones thoughts on pink buckle.  at least FF is closer to the west coast where I live.  I don't think I would make it to a pink buckle race but I thought it would make my filly more marketable...................

what do you all think??? 
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barrelracingchick16
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2018-09-19 11:55 AM (#7408306 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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I don’t think it’s becoming irrelevant but it’s not as attracting as it once was due to the higher numbers of horses being in the program.

I still think FF is a great program. But it is what it is..more numbers less chance at winning.
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cowgirl156
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2018-09-19 11:56 AM (#7408307 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?


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I don’t think so! It’s exciting there are more FF races up north here this year! It’s the only incentive I’ll pay my foals in. Anything else there isn’t races up here that make it worth paying into. Is Mare Power still even going? Lol
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cowgirl156
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2018-09-19 11:57 AM (#7408308 - in reply to #7408306)
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Why would that make a difference? It’s a “sidepot” for the rest of your horses life.
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-09-19 12:00 PM (#7408309 - in reply to #7408307)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?


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cowgirl156 - 2018-09-19 11:56 AM I don’t think so! It’s exciting there are more FF races up north here this year! It’s the only incentive I’ll pay my foals in. Anything else there isn’t races up here that make it worth paying into. Is Mare Power still even going? Lol

I've wondered the same on Mare Power.  ??? 
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-09-19 12:15 PM (#7408311 - in reply to #7408308)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?


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cowgirl156 - 2018-09-19 11:57 AM Why would that make a difference? It’s a “sidepot” for the rest of your horses life.

I care from a stallion owners side.  As long as people are wanting it and paying into it, the stallion owners are happy.   
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2018-09-19 12:16 PM (#7408312 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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I really like future fortunes - definitely adds value to a foal (imo).  I like that there are several events, payoffs for open horses.  I've only been to 2 of them this year - I really don't haul much..........but I've won $800 from the program on my 8 yo mare this year!  I love that it continues to pay all across the country after the futurity year is over.  Pink buckle - way too much $$ for this girl.  
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2018-09-19 12:17 PM (#7408313 - in reply to #7408306)
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barrelracingchick16 - 2018-09-19 11:55 AM I don’t think it’s becoming irrelevant but it’s not as attracting as it once was due to the higher numbers of horses being in the program. I still think FF is a great program. But it is what it is..more numbers less chance at winning.

The more numbers, the more races have FF payouts.... just goes to expand the program.  
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LIVE2RUN
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2018-09-19 12:59 PM (#7408317 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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What exactly is the Pink Buckle?
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-09-19 1:38 PM (#7408323 - in reply to #7408317)
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LIVE2RUN - 2018-09-19 12:59 PM What exactly is the Pink Buckle?

I understand it to be an incentive program which includes 40 stallions.  Only those 40 stallions and thier progeny can run at the pink buckle race which will give away $1m the first year and potential more in the following years.  The $1M is funded by the 40 stallion owners at $25k each.   The same structure was done in the Halter industry.  I don't know if it still exists in the halter industry.   Time will tell how successful it is in the barrel industry. 
My guess is it will be good since this industry is made up primarily by a bunch of alcoholics spending other peoples money in exchange for love.    (I added this part just to get the board fired up, though there is a little bit of truth to it.)  


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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2018-09-19 1:54 PM (#7408325 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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There also is the Blue Collar Incentative too, to choose from. 

 
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luluwhit
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2018-09-19 2:08 PM (#7408331 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2018-09-19 5:04 PM (#7408347 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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I am pretty illiterate with the incentives but I have had several friends tell me it is important their horses are FF so up north it is still important.
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slowpoke
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2018-09-20 7:33 AM (#7408372 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?


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Definitely not!  Created and managed by the best, Mary Ellen Hickman!  She is always working to make it better!
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RHRanch
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2018-09-20 8:56 AM (#7408382 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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I won't buy one that isn't in it.  I've made some great money at a couple of shows where it was added!  
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cranky B4 10am
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2018-09-20 11:02 AM (#7408399 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?


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Sure hope not! My 3yo just came back from the trainers and I am hoping to do exhibitions this year, and start him next year!  
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2018-09-20 4:08 PM (#7408440 - in reply to #7408288)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes becoming irrelevant?



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I don't think its becoming irrelevant because what FF has that the others don't is the opportunity to be eligible for money at multiple races within the same year. BCBI and PB are great if you go to the one event a year they hold.

I will say I am excited that I have two foals that are BCBI eligible and one on the way that will be both PB and BCBI. And I do plan on paying the PB eligible foal in when its born. And I'll continue to do FF. The other incentives, likely no, because I don't see them too much where I can except for Triple Crown on occasion.
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-09-20 8:06 PM (#7408457 - in reply to #7408293)
Subject: RE: Is Future Fortunes now irrelevant?



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WrapN3MN - 2018-09-19 11:18 AM No. In fact is its growing in popularity our area as more and more races up here are becoming FF.

Agreed.  Hard to sell breedings to stallions or prospects that aren't FF eligible anymore. 
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