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mpindixie
Reg. Mar 2016
Posted 2018-12-06 12:45 AM (#7415564)
Subject: Would you breed her? To what?


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Would you breed this mare? and if so, what stud? I am thinking something cow bred.

ETA: Bugatti Special (her sire) won $25k on the track. Will try to upload a picture of her.

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Fancie_That_Chrome_
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2018-12-06 2:05 AM (#7415565 - in reply to #7415564)
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Maybe. depends how shes built, temperament, and any earnings. which stud would also depend on the above/
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2018-12-06 9:08 AM (#7415576 - in reply to #7415564)
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Based on pedigree alone? No. $25k is nothing on the racetrack.

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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-12-06 9:08 AM (#7415577 - in reply to #7415564)
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I like her pedigree.   
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SoDak
Reg. Jan 2013
Posted 2018-12-06 9:31 AM (#7415583 - in reply to #7415564)
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Only if you'd be keeping the baby yourself. Otherwise probably not super profitable.
That being said I would go with a FWF son and not cowbred.
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mpindixie
Reg. Mar 2016
Posted 2018-12-06 9:39 AM (#7415585 - in reply to #7415564)
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I added that her sire had won some money on the track, just so you’d know he was somewhat successful in something. On the dam side, Triple Dash was said to be a great producer but didn’t get to run on the track due to an injury.

This mare is super sweet but just doesn’t have turn in her pedigree. She had ran in the 1D but got caught in a fence last year and hasn’t been the same since. She has been checked from head to toe, she makes improvements but still struggles with the right side. She is super super strong.

I will only breed her if I can find a stud that will help cross out some of that run.

I can not get the picture to upload :/ here is a video I found of her a while back on YouTube. https://youtu.be/ycbw89v0CJk

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rpreast
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2018-12-06 9:39 AM (#7415586 - in reply to #7415564)
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Depending on your budget I'd bet you could breed her to something more "barrel bred" and still get the turn you're looking for. Like maybe Blazin Jetolena or Firewaterontherocks?
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-12-06 10:01 AM (#7415590 - in reply to #7415564)
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I like her pedigree as well. Just because her sire only won $25k on the track doesn't make her an immediate throwaway in my opinion. There are gobs of stallions that were injured and never competed or have little to zero earnings to their names and have produced some nice, nice foals. I am a huge proponent of the run/cow cross and would love to see her crossed on something cowbred as well.

If you like the mare, and feel confident that she could produce something better than herself and want to pass her bloodlines, mentality, and physical ability along, then I say go for it! Not all mares and stallions are going to be high end money winners, but they can be darn good producers and make names for themselves that way. (I'm not saying it happens every time, but it has happened).

That being said, how tall is she? What is your stud fee budget? What are you hoping to improve upon besides the turning? Are there any cowbred stallions or bloodlines you like?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-12-06 10:10 AM (#7415592 - in reply to #7415577)
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Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 9:08 AM I like her pedigree.   

I do too,  
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-12-06 10:42 AM (#7415593 - in reply to #7415564)
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Special Effort Sons have produced alot of good mares.  Bully Bullion, Proudest Effort, Special Leader, Hot Colours, Strawfly Special, Special Feelins & Special Show.

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trobertson
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-12-06 11:11 AM (#7415594 - in reply to #7415564)
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I've always like this mare when you ran her. I would breed her, if you can find something that will make a good cross.
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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2018-12-06 11:36 AM (#7415596 - in reply to #7415564)
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These are some of my favorites to put some turn on all that run.
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-12-06 12:05 PM (#7415599 - in reply to #7415576)
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BamaCanChaser - 2018-12-06 9:08 AM

Based on pedigree alone? No. $25k is nothing on the racetrack.


Dashin Follies won less than $500 on the track but what a producer!


She's worth breeding off the old blood on the bottom side alone to me. Find you a a stud in the budget you like, thats marketable, has good quality semen, and go with him!

Another thing Epic Leader's sire Confederate Leader won I think like less than $400 on the track granted he got into someone's hands that made him a barrel horse but its food for thought about earnings. Also Confederate Leader was a son of Special Effort crossed on a some Go Man Go blood just like your mare

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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-12-06 12:11 PM (#7415601 - in reply to #7415599)
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-12-06 12:05 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2018-12-06 9:08 AM Based on pedigree alone? No. $25k is nothing on the racetrack.
Dashin Follies won less than $500 on the track but what a producer! She's worth breeding off the old blood on the bottom side alone to me. Find you a a stud in the budget you like, thats marketable, has god quality semen, and go with him! Another thing Epic Leader's sire Confederate Leader won I think like less than $400 on the track granted he got into someone's hands that made him a barrel horse but its food for thought about earnings. Also Confederate Leader was a son of Special Effort crossed on a some Go Man Go blood just like your mare

 I'm just saying...That is a some real high quality stuff there.  110% motility! 
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-12-06 12:17 PM (#7415602 - in reply to #7415601)
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Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 12:11 PM

runfastturnsmooth - 2018-12-06 12:05 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2018-12-06 9:08 AM Based on pedigree alone? No. $25k is nothing on the racetrack.
Dashin Follies won less than $500 on the track but what a producer! She's worth breeding off the old blood on the bottom side alone to me. Find you a a stud in the budget you like, thats marketable, has god quality semen, and go with him! Another thing Epic Leader's sire Confederate Leader won I think like less than $400 on the track granted he got into someone's hands that made him a barrel horse but its food for thought about earnings. Also Confederate Leader was a son of Special Effort crossed on a some Go Man Go blood just like your mare

 I'm just saying...That is a some real high quality stuff there.  110% motility! 

HOLY SEMEN!

They swim like Micheal Phelps

for those mares that require ICSI lol
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-12-06 12:27 PM (#7415604 - in reply to #7415596)
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Fun2Run - 2018-12-06 9:36 AM

Fiestas Gotta Gun
Streakin Boon Dox
No Pressure On Me

These are some of my favorites to put some turn on all that run.

Fiestas Gotta Gun is one of the stallions that came to mind while I was writing my response, he was injured young and never did much in the arena, but I am really liking the look of his babies! They are starting to make a good name for themselves.
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firewaterfuelsme
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2018-12-06 7:57 PM (#7415660 - in reply to #7415564)
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yes cross with cow..
rope horses are bringing a premium with world series paying like it is now...
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2018-12-07 5:58 PM (#7415769 - in reply to #7415564)
Subject: RE: Would you breed her? To what?



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If your goal is to make a prospect that's marketable to sell I might advise you against breeding her. The market is very soft right now and "good" bred prospects are a dime a dozen and often barely bringing what you have in to making them. In my opinion there are too many people breeding mediocre horses. 
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BarrelNPoleRunnr
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2018-12-07 7:57 PM (#7415773 - in reply to #7415564)
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I think after this showing at the BFA -- everyone that can will be breeding to EPIC LEADER  
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BarrelNPoleRunnr
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2018-12-09 5:57 PM (#7415897 - in reply to #7415593)
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Confederate Leader gave us Epic Leader  
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