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Easilygraced
Reg. Jan 2019
Posted 2019-01-09 9:13 AM (#7418472)
Subject: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D


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How is everyone selling good quality horses aged 7-10 that haven’t been clocking consistent 1D times and have been more in the mid 2D, 3D and sometimes 4D but have shown potential to be able clock higher?

With inquiries I’ve received it seems like everyone wants an automatic 1D horse no matter what skill they are, the potential and training of the horse or the skill the current rider has. They instantly stop talking to you if they find out the horse isn’t consistently in the 1D without even asking any details about the horse and it’s training.

I’ve placed in of all of the D’s on different horses so I am familiar with both ends of the spectrum and I know the amount of work it takes to keep them running in the top Ds. I also realize that sometimes it’s better to be in the lower D’s if your horse or the rider needs more training during the runs, which in my opinion seems to hold up longer in the long run. I prefer to have my horses solid on their turns and understand rate before I go full out on speed. I’ve also had many runs where I screwed up to no fault of the horse which made us clock much slower.

Maybe it’s just me, but it doesn’t seem like many buyers are aware of all the factors and cost that goes into having a solid 1D horse? They just want instant results. I realize the competition is higher nowadays, but there are plenty of great well trained and consistent horses out there that are not currently clocking consistent 1D times. Has anyone else experienced my frustration in trying to sell horses right now?

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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2019-01-09 9:35 AM (#7418477 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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I think everyone wants a bargain.  1D on a budget. 

That being said, people want consisitency.  A medium aged horse should probably be fairly consistent most of the time.  
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AmericanJelly1
Reg. Dec 2018
Posted 2019-01-09 9:40 AM (#7418480 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D


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Well here is my opinion.

Most 1D horses are from ages 7-10. Just like you stated it takes time to get to where they are at. Some just never make that cut.

As for people not responding after telling them its a 2-4D horse, well thats their loss. Just because a horse isn't clocking 1D where your from doesn't mean they aren't a 1D horse in another area or with a different rider. Heck I've seen 1D horses get into the wrong hands and turn into 4D horses. If they were serious buyers they would go try the horse out. I know what a 1D horse is and what they cost, especially a consistent 1D horse.

A lot of people can't handle a 1D horse anyways but we all would like a chance at it.
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2019-01-09 10:12 AM (#7418484 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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I have found that if my ad says the horse is consistent 2-3D then the 1D bargain hunters dont call.
Saying 1D potential or a horse having run 1D a time or two does not warrant 1D money and potential is just an opinion. I stick to the facts in an ad and price them accordingly.
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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-01-09 10:26 AM (#7418486 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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Priced accordingly?  Unless a horse has a solid 1D past with a different rider and proof of no injuries then what you have is a 2D/3D or 3D/4D horse.  You will not get 1D prices for either of the other two categories no matter who has the opinion that the could make a 1D horse in the right hands.

I don't believe that there is such an animal as an automatic 1D horse. There may have been, or be, or will in the future be, one outstanding animal that you could put any rider on and they will clock in the 1D, but I doubt there is more than 1 per 1000 true blue 1D horses (finishing in the money, not a consistent bottom 1D top of 2D) that you can put various riders on and hit that pay window. Maybe you could if they were all top hands, but not with average or even above average riders.

I also agree that most riders (average riders) would not know what to do with a true blue 1D horse without lots of lessons and practice. I've watched more than a few simply be too strong, either in running or turning, for the average rider. If you get behind on the first barrel it's only going to go downhill from there!  

If you are asking more than $10K for your horse I would expect consistent placing in the check range of 3D, and some results in the 2D. If you're asking more than $20K you should be offering consistent placing in the 2D, with or without maintenance costs. And if you move into the $50K range the horse should either be clocking consistent 1D times, with at least some checks, a great pedigree, and maybe some maintenance. JMO
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bbennington
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2019-01-09 11:24 AM (#7418493 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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I would guess that at least half those people contacting you can’t ride a 3D horse let alone a 1d horse. Most season riders would ask more questions then that and analyze some videos to see if there is time to be made up in runs.

1d bargin horse usually need some work or maintenance. Most knowledgeable horse people realize this so I wouldn’t be to upset about losing some people they probably were tire kicker anyways!
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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-01-09 12:11 PM (#7418509 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D


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 IDC what D you fall in as long as you are pretty consistant, especially at that age.. slips, trips and just missing the point at any given barrel happens and costs time but if I see something in a video that tells me they aren't giving the same try and run each time... Im out I don't want to guess what horse I pulled up with that day lol 
This may just me but I like the same rock solid performance when I enter.
And I promise I make my share of mistakes... ;)
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2019-01-09 12:29 PM (#7418514 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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Many people WANT a 1D horse, FEW can ride a legit 1D horse. 
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2019-01-09 1:20 PM (#7418516 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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Easilygraced - 2019-01-09 9:13 AM How is everyone selling good quality horses aged 7-10 that haven’t been clocking consistent 1D times and have been more in the mid 2D, 3D and sometimes 4D but have shown potential to be able clock higher? With inquiries I’ve received it seems like everyone wants an automatic 1D horse no matter what skill they are, the potential and training of the horse or the skill the current rider has. They instantly stop talking to you if they find out the horse isn’t consistently in the 1D without even asking any details about the horse and it’s training. I’ve placed in of all of the D’s on different horses so I am familiar with both ends of the spectrum and I know the amount of work it takes to keep them running in the top Ds. I also realize that sometimes it’s better to be in the lower D’s if your horse or the rider needs more training during the runs, which in my opinion seems to hold up longer in the long run. I prefer to have my horses solid on their turns and understand rate before I go full out on speed. I’ve also had many runs where I screwed up to no fault of the horse which made us clock much slower. Maybe it’s just me, but it doesn’t seem like many buyers are aware of all the factors and cost that goes into having a solid 1D horse? They just want instant results. I realize the competition is higher nowadays, but there are plenty of great well trained and consistent horses out there that are not currently clocking consistent 1D times. Has anyone else experienced my frustration in trying to sell horses right now?

If you will state this in your ad it will prevent most (not all, always a few tire kickers who can't read) from inquiring and asking you. They will know from the get go if they're interested or not and saves both your time and theirs.



 
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Ticktock
Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2019-01-09 1:59 PM (#7418520 - in reply to #7418472)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D



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I had a horse I had for sale last year and she was priced as 3d horse. I didnt get a single inquiry so I just started running her again and 2 races she was 1 D in Texas mind you, and 2 more she was 2D so theres that. Shes now 8 and didnt get broke until she was 5 lol.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-01-09 2:04 PM (#7418521 - in reply to #7418520)
Subject: RE: Selling Horses who aren’t proven 1D





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Ticktock - 2019-01-09 2:59 PM I had a horse I had for sale last year and she was priced as 3d horse. I didnt get a single inquiry so I just started running her again and 2 races she was 1 D in Texas mind you, and 2 more she was 2D so theres that. Shes now 8 and didnt get broke until she was 5 lol.

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