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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-02-07 9:20 AM (#7421345)
Subject: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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What would you use for a horse with thin soles that has had a tendency to get sore for a couple weeks after each rasp trimming (He doesnt always APPEAR sore or act sore, but we have noticed a trend where he has colic-like episodes within 2 weeks of a trim since July)? Shoes with leather rim pad, or a full leather pad with packing? He has not been shod before. Going to try it to see if it helps.

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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-02-07 12:53 PM (#7421371 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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Anyone? lol I wish there was some farrier forum so you could ask questions like this.

Edited by horsegirl 2019-02-07 12:54 PM
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2019-02-07 1:10 PM (#7421372 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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I would get a new farrier lol. My husband is a farrier and there's really no reason to make one sore. When its cold they can have contracted soles and it looks like you can take off more than you really should. You could also try turpentine on the soles to make them a little less sore. JMO
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-02-07 1:29 PM (#7421374 - in reply to #7421372)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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JLBerry - 2019-02-07 2:10 PM

I would get a new farrier lol. My husband is a farrier and there's really no reason to make one sore. When its cold they can have contracted soles and it looks like you can take off more than you really should. You could also try turpentine on the soles to make them a little less sore. JMO

He uses nothing but a rasp and takes off very little. It's also rarely very cold here. LOL This horse is highly sensitive. Since many people use pads of one sort or another, I think they have a place, but I'm just curious which variation sounds like it would be best for the thin soled horse. I have used full pads and magic cushion on a previous horse, but I've never had experience with the rim pad. I wish I could find more info online about the purposes for each, but, not so much...
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2019-02-07 1:39 PM (#7421376 - in reply to #7421374)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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I've used rim pads mostly if they have a structural soreness issue. I've used full pads with vet tech cs gel on some that have to run with shoes. Its work great if you have the correct application, if not they can lose shoes easily.
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barrelracinbroke
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2019-02-07 1:58 PM (#7421379 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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As mentioned earlier, there should be no reason a horse is sore after a simple trim. Absolutely NONE. 

I'd make sure they aren't taking off too much sole, or taking off too much wall. Taking off too much wall forces the horse to walk on sole and that can sore one too.

If you're going to shoe, I'd start with just a rim pad personally. But again, it leads back to the trim.

 
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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2019-02-07 7:11 PM (#7421423 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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I ride in a lot of rocky places, and have one horse that is pretty sensitive. I've kept him in these pads. When he gets reshod, his feet are in great condition.

https://www.vettec.com/en-us/
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barrelracingchick16
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2019-02-07 8:51 PM (#7421435 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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Start with radiographs of the feet with your veterinarian- see exactly what you are dealing with. Then, change accordingly. I generally recommend a rocker type shoe for horses that need sole depth- the right farrier who knows how to properly apply a rockered shoe can double or even triple a thin sole depth in one shoe cycle. It's all about mechanics and increasing blood flow to the foot. If I am going to use a sole support of some sort I prefer equipack.
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halter_ego
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2019-02-10 10:22 AM (#7421705 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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I have one with extremely thin soles. My vet recommended thick rim pads and it has helped tremendously. He doesn't like full pads and packing on this horse because they apply a small amount of constant pressure to the soles and it was actually making him more sore. The rim pads give him more space between his sole and the ground, I was sceptical but have seen a big difference.
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Go Lucky Dun
Reg. Jan 2019
Posted 2019-02-10 10:43 AM (#7421708 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad



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I had a gelding that had an extremely thin soles. Vet told us to use the pour in Vettec pads. We used the green/blue colored one. Within 6 weeks, his sole had more than doubled in the x rays! And it stays on for the full shoeing cycle! Good stuff!
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2019-02-10 6:48 PM (#7421760 - in reply to #7421345)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad


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Xrays/lameness exam first so you know for sure what you are dealing with. I agree with others that what you are describing doesn’t really add up to something that should be experienced with correct simple trimming - especially 2 weeks after the fact.
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2019-02-11 9:26 AM (#7421809 - in reply to #7421760)
Subject: RE: Leather rim pad vs. full pad


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Any horse that has the symptoms you describe (sore after trim, even just trimming walls) gets a leather rim pad and gets put on an MVP product called Laminex. Laminex helps improve circulation to the foot and helps the foot grow.
Some of these horses have mild rotation and all of them have thin soles when when we X-ray them. Bottom line, any change in their foot causes laminitis. The rim pad keeps them comfortable.

Usually this type of horse can’t take sole pressure
Like equithane pads . Full leather pad holds a lot of moisture which isn’t good.
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