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Sandok
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-02-11 4:58 PM (#7421928)
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Is anybody feeding the Renew Gold to a Senior Horse that is retired and on pasture?
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2019-02-11 5:07 PM (#7421929 - in reply to #7421928)
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No, but I feed the " Senior" version to my running horses and really like it.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2019-02-11 10:54 PM (#7421979 - in reply to #7421928)
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For a retired Senior the original Renew Gold formulation is great for maintaining health and condition. The Senior formula in made for active senior and high use mature performance horses.
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nettieb3
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2019-02-12 12:02 AM (#7421982 - in reply to #7421928)
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I was feeding 8-10 lbs of senior feed a day to old Brodie and old gelding, both looked thinner than I would like..I started just feeding 1 lb of strategy and 1 lb of renew gold and after 5-6 weeks looks like someone put air hose up their rears!! I’m a believer!
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2019-02-12 8:04 AM (#7421995 - in reply to #7421928)
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Sandok - 2019-02-11 5:58 PM Is anybody feeding the Renew Gold to a Senior Horse that is retired and on pasture?

I feed to my retired 17 year old and my 30 year old.  I did in the past for my 27 and 34 year old. I didn't change because the formula is working so well on them, didn't want to mess it up.
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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-02-12 8:45 AM (#7422005 - in reply to #7421979)
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winwillows - 2019-02-11 10:54 PM For a retired Senior the original Renew Gold formulation is great for maintaining health and condition. The Senior formula in made for active senior and high use mature performance horses.

What is the biggest difference between the 2? Senior and regular?
 
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Go Lucky Dun
Reg. Jan 2019
Posted 2019-02-12 9:04 AM (#7422011 - in reply to #7421928)
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I fed the regular to my 15 yo barrel horse. I ended up adding some regular feed with it. I'm boarding now, so he is on their feed. When I move him home, I may try that senior.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2019-02-12 9:49 AM (#7422021 - in reply to #7422005)
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cindyt - 2019-02-12 8:45 AM

winwillows - 2019-02-11 10:54 PM For a retired Senior the original Renew Gold formulation is great for maintaining health and condition. The Senior formula in made for active senior and high use mature performance horses.

What is the biggest difference between the 2? Senior and regular?
 

Most Senior feeds are just a higher fiber feed pellet useful for old horses with poor teeth. Renew Gold Senior is formulated to address the issues that very active Seniors face. Joint issues, digestive efficiency, immune issues, and better utilization of the diet overall. It is higher in fat, protein and to a small degree NSC. These are the same issues that heavy use, road warrior, mature performance horses face. For others, the original formula Renew Gold is the proper choice, even for retired or low use Seniors.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-02-12 10:02 AM (#7422024 - in reply to #7421928)
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Sandok - 2019-02-11 4:58 PM Is anybody feeding the Renew Gold to a Senior Horse that is retired and on pasture?

This has Omega 3 in it as well along with Omega 6.. Renew Gold is a very nice feed.  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-02-12 10:06 AM (#7422026 - in reply to #7421928)
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Win, can you explain why Omega 3 & 6 is used in feed. Sandok didnt like the ideal of fish oil in BlueBonnets Omega Force feed so maybe you can explain why its used in feeds.  
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-02-12 7:27 PM (#7422116 - in reply to #7422026)
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SoDak
Reg. Jan 2013
Posted 2019-02-13 10:00 AM (#7422175 - in reply to #7421928)
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Hoping Win can answer.
At what age would you consider 'senior' for a horse going every almost weekend April-November?
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2019-02-13 11:38 AM (#7422188 - in reply to #7421928)
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I feed it to my 32 year old, but it is in addition to senior feed and soaked alfalfa cubes and pellets.
He gets soaked alfalfa cubes and senior feed in the morning, and soaked alfalfa pellets and 1 lb Renew Gold in the evening.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2019-02-13 6:16 PM (#7422233 - in reply to #7421928)
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I will try to answer the two questions directed to me above. First Omega 3 and Omega 6, and their relationship to each other. Both are essential fatty acids. The overall ratio between the two should have the total Omega 3 in the diet slightly higher than the Omega 6. This is fairly easy to accomplish if the total grain ration is fairly low. Grains are very high in Omega 6. Most forages have a higher level of Omega 3 than 6. If there is a fairly low grain ration in the diet the forage should come pretty close to keeping every thing in balance. If you feed a lot of grain, a high omega 3 addition may make sense. It is important to understand that we are really only guessing here because there has been very little clinical work done on the Omega 3 / Omega 6 relationship in horses. Most supplement manufacturers are trying to use human studies. This rarely turns out well. Fish oil is super high in Omega 3. So is flax if fed whole or in a full fat stabilized meal form. I feel that some horse owners go overboard on Omega 3 supplementation. While it is anti inflammatory, and suppresses the inflammatory effect of Omega 6, you need to remember that Omega 6 is essential also. The ability to create inflammation in acute injury can be a benefit to the healing process of that injury. Chronic inflammation like arthritis is another issue. Here you would like to suppress inflammation. An overall balance is the best choice, letting both essential fatty acids do their job in the horses system. The only time that I recommend a Omega 3 concentrated supplement is when I can't talk the horse owner out of feeding a high grain ration in their horses diet.

As to what is a senior horse. It depends on the care it received throughout its life. Just like some people that you see that seem old in their 50's while some in their 70's are fit active and vital. As a ballpark guestimate though. I usually consider a horse that is over 18 years of age to be entering it's senior years. Very heavy use mature horses, say 10 years old on up, share many of the same issues that older horses have when it comes to joint condition and ligament damage. These are the horses that we recommend our senior product for, more than older light use or no use true seniors.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-02-13 6:55 PM (#7422237 - in reply to #7422233)
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winwillows - 2019-02-13 6:16 PM I will try to answer the two questions directed to me above. First Omega 3 and Omega 6, and their relationship to each other. Both are essential fatty acids. The overall ratio between the two should have the total Omega 3 in the diet slightly higher than the Omega 6. This is fairly easy to accomplish if the total grain ration is fairly low. Grains are very high in Omega 6. Most forages have a higher level of Omega 3 than 6. If there is a fairly low grain ration in the diet the forage should come pretty close to keeping every thing in balance. If you feed a lot of grain, a high omega 3 addition may make sense. It is important to understand that we are really only guessing here because there has been very little clinical work done on the Omega 3 / Omega 6 relationship in horses. Most supplement manufacturers are trying to use human studies. This rarely turns out well. Fish oil is super high in Omega 3. So is flax if fed whole or in a full fat stabilized meal form. I feel that some horse owners go overboard on Omega 3 supplementation. While it is anti inflammatory, and suppresses the inflammatory effect of Omega 6, you need to remember that Omega 6 is essential also. The ability to create inflammation in acute injury can be a benefit to the healing process of that injury. Chronic inflammation like arthritis is another issue. Here you would like to suppress inflammation. An overall balance is the best choice, letting both essential fatty acids do their job in the horses system. The only time that I recommend a Omega 3 concentrated supplement is when I can't talk the horse owner out of feeding a high grain ration in their horses diet. As to what is a senior horse. It depends on the care it received throughout its life. Just like some people that you see that seem old in their 50's while some in their 70's are fit active and vital. As a ballpark guestimate though. I usually consider a horse that is over 18 years of age to be entering it's senior years. Very heavy use mature horses, say 10 years old on up, share many of the same issues that older horses have when it comes to joint condition and ligament damage. These are the horses that we recommend our senior product for, more than older light use or no use true seniors.

Thank you Win..  
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MSDash
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2019-02-13 9:07 PM (#7422248 - in reply to #7421928)
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Is there a way to order the senior feed direct and possibly the regular version as well? My local tractor supply has had the same sack since they opened. I want to buy fresh and I will use it on multiple horses. Also is it suggested to feed alfalfa as well as grass hay or does grass hay suffice? This would be for barrel horses with ulcer issues that are hauled regularly
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Sandok
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-02-14 8:25 AM (#7422269 - in reply to #7421928)
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Thanks Win. Here is also what Dr. Getty told me about the fish oil.

I generally do not like feeding fish oils to horses since horses are herbivorous. And most horses do not like the taste. The benefit of fish oils can be found in a vegan feedstuff, called blue green algae. Blue green algae (like fish oils) is high in DHA. DHA is a potent omega 3 fatty acid that significantly reduces inflammation. Alpha linolenic acid (ALA) is the essential omega 3 found in flaxseeds and chia seeds, and it is converted to DHA inside the horse's body. But this conversion is poor (only about 20%), so in cases of severe inflammation, I instead go with a source of DHA. I like Algae to Omega: http://gettyequinenutrition.biz/products/algaetoomega.htm

I hope this is helpful.

Dr. G :)


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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2019-02-14 9:44 AM (#7422280 - in reply to #7422248)
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MSDash - 2019-02-13 9:07 PM

Is there a way to order the senior feed direct and possibly the regular version as well? My local tractor supply has had the same sack since they opened. I want to buy fresh and I will use it on multiple horses. Also is it suggested to feed alfalfa as well as grass hay or does grass hay suffice? This would be for barrel horses with ulcer issues that are hauled regularly

Renew Gold Senior is guaranteed to meet it’s nutritional specs for one year in the bag. If you ask your local TSC store to order you a few bags they should do that. If they have resistance let me know in a pm. It works fine with grass hay, but if you are fighting ulcers there is real value to having some alfalfa in the diet.
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MSDash
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2019-02-14 11:27 AM (#7422301 - in reply to #7421928)
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Thanks I will see if they will. They only have the regular and I’m kind of doubting they order any since it hasn’t moved. I’m in MS. Things catch on slow here. How much alfalfa do you suggest? It’s in square bales that I can get. Also did I see where you were coming out with an ulcer supplement? I’m interested to know more! I’m Paula Touchstone. I’m on Facebook if you are on there. Thanks!
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