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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-02-12 11:47 AM (#7422051)
Subject: Saddle for rump high/downhill horse



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What is everyone's go to saddle for downhill, flat backed horses?  I feel like this horse is always kinda sore in her back and loin area.  Some say treed saddles will make all downhill horses sore, but a lot of colts are downhill and plenty of trainers ride in treed saddles.  Are flex saddles better? 

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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2019-02-13 1:49 PM (#7422207 - in reply to #7422051)
Subject: RE: Saddle for rump high/downhill horse



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Dreamingofcans - 2019-02-12 12:47 PM What is everyone's go to saddle for downhill, flat backed horses?  I feel like this horse is always kinda sore in her back and loin area.  Some say treed saddles will make all downhill horses sore, but a lot of colts are downhill and plenty of trainers ride in treed saddles.  Are flex saddles better? 

I am in the same boat as you. I haven't tried a whole bunch of saddles yet but these are my findings so far and what has been recommended to try. I currently ride in a Bob Marshall.

Any wide Circle Y sits down on the withers. I haven't tried a regular tree yet so see if that works.

Melita Brown by Crates seems to fit pretty good, although I don't love how it rides.

Been suggested to try but haven't yet:
 Lynn Mckenzie Special. If that doesn't work then a wide Special.
Flex tree saddles by Circle Y and Reinsman (yes I know its the same company).   
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-02-13 2:00 PM (#7422209 - in reply to #7422051)
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I was also told to try a flex tree... and wouldn’t ya know I sold a sibley a while back.

 
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CanCan
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Posted 2019-02-13 8:01 PM (#7422244 - in reply to #7422051)
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Built up pad. Like a bio fit. 
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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2019-02-14 6:55 AM (#7422262 - in reply to #7422209)
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Dreamingofcans - 2019-02-13 3:00 PM I was also told to try a flex tree... and wouldn’t ya know I sold a sibley a while back.



 

Oh I forgot about that one.

I had an Ammerman that initially I thought fit pretty well but she didn't want to pick up her left lead. Obviously it was pinching her.  
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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-02-14 9:37 AM (#7422278 - in reply to #7422262)
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My Frontier Futurity sat and rode great on Xena. At age 14 she is still downhill, tho it was more pronounced when she was younger. 

 
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Dreamingofcans
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Posted 2019-03-17 6:35 PM (#7425113 - in reply to #7422244)
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CanCan - 2019-02-13 8:01 PM Built up pad. Like a bio fit. 


Would that cause the back of the saddle to put more pressure on the loin area since that part of the back is already elevated?

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Whinny19
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2019-03-18 9:19 AM (#7425137 - in reply to #7422051)
Subject: RE: Saddle for rump high/downhill horse



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My boyfriend's rope horse is a bit downhill, and when he was using him every day on the feedlot he started having back soreness and galling issues over the withers, loin, and in the cinch area (it seemed like the saddle was always tilting and sliding forward).

A lot of times these horses are also much wider over the loin than they are closer to the withers. I mean, horse's backs are normally pear-shaped, but it's often exagerated in downhill horses. So the first key is making sure the saddle is wide enough over the loin, and it's not rubbing there because it's too narrow.

Two things made a big difference for my boyfriend's horse. I got him a wither riser pad (just an inexpensive foam one from Horse.com, made by Roma). And I made a centerfire rigging converter for his saddle, which pulled his front cinch farther back. You can buy the converters as well, but I made his using the round rings from a cheap cinch, latigo leather, and a couple breast collar replacement straps. Huge difference! No more soreness and galling.

A lot of the loin rubbing and soreness is from the back of the saddle popping up and down, and it will also sometimes "wag" side to side as the horse swings each hind leg forward. The riser pad helps the saddle sit level so the back doesn't pop up. And the centerfire rigging helps evenly distribute pressure through the whole tree. Also, make sure the back cinch is snugged up.

As a note, his Martin roping saddle with the adjustable gullet fits this horse really well and doesn't have any soring or rubbing issues. It's great for roping, but unfortunately the leg fenders aren't very free swinging, so my boyfriend doesn't like using it for his everyday riding saddle. He uses the centerfire converter on his other saddle.

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