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Only charge for hay/grain...they are your friends.0 Votes - [0%]
Charge for hay/grain + taking care of them. End of story.26 Votes - [83.87%]
Charge for hay/grain + taking care of them. Deduction when helping out.5 Votes - [16.13%]

cn1705
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2019-03-01 6:35 PM (#7423997)
Subject: Friends boarding at your house


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We bought a place with 14 acres about a year ago. I just have my two horses, but I have two friends that would like to keep their horses at my house (two more horses total). I'm trying to figure out what is fair to charge. It would just be rough board. I don't have many amenities, just a round pen currently. My one friend made the comment of just paying for hay and grain. Which is fine and long as she's willing to come help clean up poop, unload hay, etc. However, my fiance is worried that they will help at first, then maybe slowly not hold up to their end of the deal. He thinks I should charge for taking care of them, then if they actually come out and help they can deduct that off their board. I would like to have people to ride with so I do want them there, I just don't want my friendships to be strained over this. What is reasonable?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-03-01 7:02 PM (#7424000 - in reply to #7423997)
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As time gos by it will put a strain on your friendship, because you will be doing all the work and they will make excuses why they cant pay for any feed or hay or to even come out.. At first it will be all hunky dory and fun but later on down the road????? I would not do it.. I have friends that wanted me to let them put some horses out in my back pasture, will I say no to much added work for me..And when winter hits its get even harder to keep up.. 

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bbennington
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2019-03-01 7:05 PM (#7424002 - in reply to #7423997)
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I did some training for a good friend of mine which included her mare being boarded at my house. I charged her $200 a month and she brought her own grain and hay. Which really isn’t much considering I took care of everything. The mare ended up getting in my brand new fence and tearing up a good section of fencing.  I paid to replace it with the money from the board since that’s really the reason I charge her something for “just in case.

Good friends will pay you and understand why. I also made her sign a board/training agreement to protect both of us and so there was never hard feelings.

we are still great friends!

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luluwhit
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2019-03-02 7:57 AM (#7424018 - in reply to #7423997)
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i have been boarding for my nieces for years.  my sister prefers to pay full board and not be responsible for upkeep.  it has worked out for us.  if the nieces do come out and help with stalls/upkeep well that is just part of them learning how to keep horses. 

I say charge full price and any upkeep of the facilitys should be done by you.  Now with that said... i charge a little less than a true boarding barn not far from me. 

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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-03-02 8:19 AM (#7424019 - in reply to #7424018)
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I boarded one or two horses for a friend from 2012 to 2018. I charged her cost only at first because she was in a bind. But I have a hard time discussing money stuff with friends. I always make sure I pay up anything and everything and take care of those who take care of me or mine. But I guess most people don't do that. The amount I charged her started not covering feed many years ago. I know I could have/should have discussed this but until 2016 I really enjoyed her being around.

After several incidents I started not really enjoying her being in my life daily. Added to the fact that she wasn't even paying full feed costs the stress started adding up. Added to that was that she would expect credit in full for any little thing she did or provided. Added to that was her becoming an overreactive, over vetting, over medicating person when her horse had some issues related to the crazy wet year last year culminating in her freaking out because our new farrier dressed her horses bars, and that was the straw that broke my back. I asked her to leave and she has unfriended me in every way. Like I said - overreactive.

Just know that no two people who are together every day (if your boarders come every day) can get along all the time. I could have dealt with that if the financial compensation had been fair. This person at my place charges $50 per feed for 3 horses up the road on a regular basis, but she didn't ever even see the lack of respect she showed by not paying me at least full cost on the feed, let alone that I was out 2 times a day, every day, no matter the weather or how I felt. 

Charge full board like Lulu!

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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2019-03-03 5:25 AM (#7424065 - in reply to #7423997)
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WIll you be sad if you aren’t friends in a couple years time?

I boarded from the time I was 12 and got my first horse until I was 29 and moved in with my husband.  that I can count off the top of my head, 7 barns across 3 states - most moves made due to logistics.  

i have been in many great boarding situations, including just keeping them at a friends and paying accordingly.  I have been in one where we quietly gave our 30 days noticed and packed up our things the following day (because frankly we didn’t trust our horse to be kept fed and safe for 30 days once we made it known we were leaving).  I have formed great friendships and I have watched decent ones torn apart.

 

just something to think about.  Whatever your agreement ends up being, put it in writing.  A good honest friend will be ok with that.

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Jazz's Girl
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2019-03-04 8:04 AM (#7424116 - in reply to #7423997)
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I wouldnt do it unless you have an agreement up front. I am no longer friends with someone over a similar situation. But looking back on it, she was never really a friend. 

I was new in the area and needed a place to keep 4 horses. She offered me her 6 acre pasture that in her words "never has horses on it". I asked up front how much she wanted a month. She said dont worry about it we would work it out. That was in november. We mowed all of her pastures, 30 something acres several times. I would pick up feed for her when I was at the feedstore. Help her unload hay and feed when she bought it. I fed and turned out her horses many times. In Jan I let her daughter take my 3 horse bp trailer 3 hrs away to college with her. I wasnt using it and she needed a trailer so it worked out. We hauled together a bunch. I even started paying part of her water bill since she wouldnt give me a price for board. I tried to be a good boarder and friend. The only time I complained to her was when I caught her dogs chasing my horses. I said something about it when 1 of my mares came in with a bite on her leg. Then I started noticing their tails were getting shorter. Yep her dog was grabbing my horses by the tail.... The last week in march I got a phone call from her, while my husband and I were out and she knew that, telling me I had 1 week to remove my horses from her place. Her reasons? I didnt pay board. And it was supposed to be a temporary situation until we found property to buy. 4 months is temporary in my book but whatever. I did something to make her mad and I to this day have no idea what it was. My husband and I went out of our way to help her out since her husband worked out of town the majority of the time and it was just her. 
BUT the next time I ran into her at a race she acted like nothing happened!!!!! Moral of the story.... be very leery. And have a contract. 

In the end it worked out. I sold 2. Boarded the other 2 at a nice facility and now we are renting the property that the owners owned before they bought the barn. God had a bigger plan. 

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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2019-03-04 8:48 AM (#7424120 - in reply to #7423997)
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I tried the friend board. Cost of feed and she helped out. It didnt work. Not only did we have different work ethics but also trying to coordinator your schedule with theirs to unload hay or do some fencing maintenance... is way too difficult.

 

I board my nieces for cost of feed, she helps when she comes but she's 13 and my expectations are different for her.

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kboltwkreations
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2019-03-04 8:56 AM (#7424121 - in reply to #7423997)
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Charge a set boarding fee and let them know your FULL EXPECTATIONS up front. Been in the boarding game for YEARS, every which way you can imagine. It never works out when you mix friends with services that should cost money.  You will end up upset/bitter over some things you would never think of in the beginning.  Just my 2 cents :)

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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2019-03-04 4:08 PM (#7424175 - in reply to #7423997)
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I haven't read all the replies but bottom line is this, if you want these people to stay friends, do not board their horses.  Why should they only pay for feed while you do all the work?  They won't like it and you will come to resent their taking advantage.  Just don't do it!

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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2019-03-04 9:36 PM (#7424199 - in reply to #7423997)
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I would charge a full and fair fee. And have a written boarding agreement. Usually, when "things go south" it's because things weren't in writing. So put it in writing and have a 100% clear understanding for both parties.

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tracies
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2019-03-05 8:12 AM (#7424213 - in reply to #7423997)
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I wonder if the horses or they themselves get hurt on your property if they might sue you? I would have to carry a liability policy if I were doing this. That costs extra money out of your pocket. Consider that when you are calculating the charges.

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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-03-05 8:19 AM (#7424214 - in reply to #7424213)
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tracies - 2019-03-05 9:12 AM


I wonder if the horses or they themselves get hurt on your property if they might sue you? I would have to carry a liability policy if I were doing this. That costs extra money out of your pocket. Consider that when you are calculating the charges.


 

 

Most states have adopted the equine liability laws which protect the horse owner pretty much 100%.

However, this bothered me with my boarder because she would always point out liability issues - little stuff that as a single owner (not a true boarding farm) we take for granted and make allowances for (small dangerous piles, hay stacked not as well as it could be, etc.). Her kid climbed the hay once and tumbled off a 6 high pile along with a couple bales and she had a small hissy fit. Poor kid was fine until she made a big deal over it. The hay was under tarp and it's not like he went flying, just kind of fell against the tarp and slid to the ground. Anywho, I let her know again and again that the equine liability laws started in VA due to the Christopher Reeves accident and that once you had entered our property your life was in your own hands. ALL of my property is horse related including stepping into the house on horse business. 

Post the sign if your state has adopted the laws. 

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tracies
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2019-03-05 8:41 AM (#7424217 - in reply to #7424214)
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Yes, I am aware of that law. I don't think it covers the horses. For instance, boarded horse tears up fence & gets out on the road. Who gets sued?

Boarded horse colics or founders... horse owner claims negligence...sues caretaker.  etc etc

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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-03-05 10:08 AM (#7424234 - in reply to #7424217)
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tracies - 2019-03-05 9:41 AM


Yes, I am aware of that law. I don't think it covers the horses. For instance, boarded horse tears up fence & gets out on the road. Who gets sued?


Boarded horse colics or founders... horse owner claims negligence...sues caretaker.  etc etc


 

I bet there are agents or lawyers who would have the answer to that question. Someone on here certainly does.

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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2019-03-08 9:39 AM (#7424533 - in reply to #7423997)
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Three friends board at my place. I do charge them a minimal monthly fee for being there (significantly cheaper than surrounding barns), but they buy all their own feed/hay and take of their own horses. The monthly board covers the cost of any repairs that come up, spraying pastures, etc. This setup has worked out really great for us so far.

 

If they expect you to provide hay/feed and take care of their horses I would certainly charge them for your expense and your time. Otherwise I could only see myself eventually resenting them for taking advantage of me. Anything they do to "pitch in" as far as chores is just part of being a horse owner. 

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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2019-03-08 10:39 AM (#7424539 - in reply to #7423997)
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DON'T DO IT

 

Usually a friendship ender

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2019-03-08 11:16 AM (#7424544 - in reply to #7424539)
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Mighty Broke - 2019-03-08 10:39 AM


DON'T DO IT


 


Usually a friendship ender


LOL  ^^^^^ exactly my thoughts ....

OP ...... Ask yourself ...How well do I like this friend and how will I feel when it all goes sour and you have to kick the friend to the curb......that should help the OP make a decision.

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rodeochick382
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2019-03-08 11:19 AM (#7424546 - in reply to #7423997)
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For me personally, either the friend is a good enough friend that I'll let them keep a horse there free and they provide their own feed/hay, or my answer is "Sorry, but I don't board/I don't have room/etc".

If I can't trust them to actually show up with their own feed/hay and not take advantage of me when it comes to barn chores, I don't want them on my property unattended at all. 

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BLM
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2019-03-08 11:28 AM (#7424548 - in reply to #7424539)
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Mighty Broke - 2019-03-08 10:39 AM

DON'T DO IT

 

Usually a friendship ender


 

I agree. Been there done that!
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