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kyzataylor
Reg. Sep 2019
Posted 2019-09-10 3:57 PM
Subject: Bleeders/Scoping


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looking for any and all info on the two subjects from experianced girls i suspect my horse is bleeding and taking him to get scoping this week looking for treatments and experiances

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2019-09-10 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeders/Scoping


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Every horse is different and responds to the treatments differently. I have had Lasix take the run out of one and work wonders on another. Sometimes I feel like the breathing treatments are hit or miss along with other treaments but some people swear by them. I forget the other injectible one, but I used it on my bleeder and HATED the way he acted, it was like he was bugged out. Anyway, to summarize I'd start with confirming with your vet that the horse is bleeding then pick an option to try for a little while, play with the dosing too and continue to scope to see whether it's working or not. Don't get frustrated if the first thing you try doesnt work, keep playing with it. It will be worth it in the end. Good luck! 

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barrelchasinmonki
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-09-12 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: Bleeders/Scoping



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so this is a big topic. First yes, have the horse scoped and do a trach wash/bal if needed....has answered SO many questions for me, it’s expensive but so worth it. The only approved treatment is lasix. Keeping a horse in shape and their lungs fit helps too. I’ve had a few bleeders through the years and something worked different for each of them. Our stud horse just had his water intake restricted before running, another ran on small amount of lasix. I had a mare a couple years ago that bled so I had her scoped and her airway was a complete disaster, lots of blood, mucous, and inflammation and low grade cough when riding. I gave her a few weeks off, started her on the Oxygen 2x ProB formula, kept her on it for 2-3 months before rescoping her, the vet was amazed and couldn’t believe it was the same horse, her airway had completely healed...no blood, inflammation, or mucous and no more coughing. I started running this mare on 4cc lasix..occasionally she bled through it though and I hated to add more lasix so I tried the flair strips and that was all she needed. I hope this helps!

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barrelracinbroke
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2019-09-14 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeders/Scoping



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Starting with a scope, ideally it needs to be done 30-45 minutes following a run. As it takes that long for blood to move from the lung in to the trachea. Many many horses bleed, even if they don't bleed out the nostrils.

I always do a BAL (bronchoalveolar lavage) on my horses. This can tell you a lot of information and may help you determine what's causing an issue or, help minimize it.

Lasix is currently the only FDA approved treatment. While there's many supplements that people discuss, few are confirmed via scope to have stopped bleeding. A horse may no longer bleed out but, many times they're still bleeding internally. I do believe in feeding supportive supplements for overall lung health but, I will only use lasix as a preventative. And having the horse in tip top shape, is also very important.

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