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runnink
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2020-02-20 1:58 PM
Subject: Lowball offers


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Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.

 

Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to

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della
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2020-02-20 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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I'm never offended by an offer. 

What I get offended by is arguing after I say no and telling me my horses is not worth that before you have even looked at them and seen everything they have to offer. 

Offer they say no that's that leave it be. 

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flyhperformancehorse
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2020-02-20 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers


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I've never been offended by an offer either... I usually list mine higher so I have a little room, plus if its a fabulous match and perfect home, I'd rather work with the buyer on the price. I think once you make an offer if they seller declines, thats it. Most time they will come back and counter the offer price. I guess it just depends everyones position, buyer and seller. As always, just be respectful. 

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2020-02-20 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers


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Totally agree, I'm not offended by and offer unless the buyer starts arguing or bad mouthing the horse. I will also certainly negotiate to the perfect fit/ home.

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2020-02-20 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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Agree with above, shouldn't be offended by an offer unless things escalate into a debate about the horse, etc. However in this case it also makes me think they aren't that serious about selling & are planning to only sell if they get what they want. So in this case they may be offended. I've given an offer, said that's what the horse was worth to me & said its up to you, take it or leave it. If they're serious about selling & they have no other bites for awhile, you may get a phone call asking if you still want the horse for the price stated. I've gotten a good deal on a couple trailers that way too. But sometimes it all depends on how much they want to sell the horse & how quick they want it off their hands. But generally there should be no offense, they're not inconvenienced or out anything. Unless you go test ride a $50,000 priced horse and then offer them $20,000, they're gonna be incredibly ****ed of at you then lol 

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-02-20 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers





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runnink - 2020-02-20 2:58 PM


Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.


 


Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to


1. Pony didn't bring $115K

 

2. Offer what ever you want

 

3. Don't be surprised if you get cussed

 

 

 

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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2020-02-20 11:29 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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1DSoon - 2020-02-20 7:15 PM


runnink - 2020-02-20 2:58 PM


Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.


 


Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to



1. Pony didn't bring $115K


 


2. Offer what ever you want


 


3. Don't be surprised if you get cussed


 


 


 


I can't believe I am agreeing with 1D Soon, but I am. 

I don't like lowball offers. I don't mind someone asking what is the lowest I'll take, but lowball offers are a big nope to me.  

My definition of lowball is waaay less than asking. 

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runnink
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2020-02-21 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers


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1DSoon - 2020-02-20 7:15 PM


runnink - 2020-02-20 2:58 PM


Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.


 


Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to



1. Pony didn't bring $115K


 


2. Offer what ever you want


 


3. Don't be surprised if you get cussed


 


 


 


 

 

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-02-21 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers





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runnink - 2020-02-21 11:30 AM


1DSoon - 2020-02-20 7:15 PM


runnink - 2020-02-20 2:58 PM


Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.


 


Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to



1. Pony didn't bring $115K


 


2. Offer what ever you want


 


3. Don't be surprised if you get cussed


 


 


 




 


 


I like ham sammiches 

 

 

 

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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2020-02-21 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers


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runnink - 2020-02-21 10:30 AM


1DSoon - 2020-02-20 7:15 PM


runnink - 2020-02-20 2:58 PM


Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.


 


Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to



1. Pony didn't bring $115K


 


2. Offer what ever you want


 


3. Don't be surprised if you get cussed


 


 


 




 


 


Yeraahh, more than likely didn't bring any where near that much. You see it all the time, my experience is with purebred breed sales. The big my mukity-mucks decide ahead of time who will "pay" for whichever big name bred animal(s) that are in that sale and then run the price up. That amount never is paid. Usually one buys big from another guy who then buys big from the other guy and little to no money exchanged hands. Looks really good on the books and advertising, but that is all it is. 

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-02-21 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers





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that guy has a history 

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got boost?
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2020-02-21 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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flyhperformancehorse - 2020-02-20 12:15 PM


I've never been offended by an offer either... I usually list mine higher so I have a little room, plus if its a fabulous match and perfect home, I'd rather work with the buyer on the price. I think once you make an offer if they seller declines, thats it. Most time they will come back and counter the offer price. I guess it just depends everyones position, buyer and seller. As always, just be respectful. 


I really agree with this.........people get sooo offended by lowballing but hey its the nature of the beast..........  Maybe call them before you try the horse and run by them what you have in mind of paying and if they say no at least you know they can keep your number if they change their mind.  Then your not wasting their time.............

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uno-dos-tres!
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-02-22 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers


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1DSoon - 2020-02-21 12:32 PM


that guy has a history 


Like having the high selling geldings at SA this past week. Pretty dang nice history. His accounts are full of hard work paying out. 

 

 

A few years ago I priced a gelding (that I still own) online. I had just gotten Facebook and decided to just place him on there because I was having people come up to me at the little races wanting to purchase him. I literally had one video but it had some date to it. I placed the ad and put in a price of 75,000. I got hammered for asking that price on the ad. It was crazy the comments that were posted. One of my friends that must have followed the early on nonsense even posted a video she had of the horse from a recent outing. He had won the race by .3 on a standard set. The only horse that had been close to us was Latte. The horse has won or placed in the top 10 of a few races in Texas and had a few arena fast times. I was humble and didn't drop to the level of the rantings on my post. Took the high road and told my husband I won't be doing this again. It will always be private treaty. I had so many lowball offers from people that had no way seen this horse in person because I hadn't run in their state. What was the worst out of the whole experience is the few girls that did come to try him with their bank letter. Poor gals couldn't stay with him after the first turn. One was pulling on him by his third stride going to the first.

I'm an old dog in this sport and had the good fortune for my parents' friendships with some of the best in multi-discplines; my husband and I have seen the checks and handshakes on multi-figured horses and more recently on cows. 

I did take offense to those that low-balled my horse even before they had rode him a single stride. From now on, it will be a bank letter plus-I need to see your riding video before you ever get a chance to throw a leg over one that's got a bit of talent running thru his veins. I had wrongly believed that placement of price would  bring the great riders to this caliber of ride. I was so wrong. I have friends in my immediate area that train some of the most common names spoken at the big rodeo's if your not riding a horse of that level already forget about swinging up in their  saddle. We have to protect the time and investment but more imortantly a real talent from being crushed.

 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-02-22 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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runnink - 2020-02-20 2:58 PM


Noticed horse for sale, overpriced to me (maybe not to everyone else) but still decent horse.  After about 2 mins of research, horse has been on/off advertised for 3-4 yrs.  As the seller, would you be offended by what would be considered to be a lowball offer as compared to the “asking price”.


 


Understood that we are in the day of a pony gelding bringing $115k at auction so people have the right to ask whatever they want to



1. Pony didn't bring $115K


 


2. Offer what ever you want


 


3. Don't be surprised if you get cussed


 


 


 




 


 



I like ham sammiches 


 


 


 


There was an ecxciting 3 way tug a war bidding duel with Mr. Barrington coming out on top at 115,000. Hip# 342 {Skittles} Seller: Sarah & Mozaun KcKibben of Whitesboro Texas. Buyer Shane Barrington family of Weatherford Texas.

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2020-02-22 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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1DSoon - 2020-02-21 12:32 PM


that guy has a history 


Are you talking about Mr McKibben?

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NoNoBadGirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2020-02-23 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers



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I'm one of the few people that price my horses FIRM.  I know the market and I don't sell my horses as a business so they are priced reasonable to start with for what they are.  I detest the negotiation process.  Therefore, when I get a low ball offer, I always respond, "if you are looking for a $xxxx horse, this is not the horse for you".

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-02-24 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers





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uno-dos-tres! - 2020-02-22 11:16 AM


1DSoon - 2020-02-21 12:32 PM


that guy has a history 



Like having the high selling geldings at SA this past week. Pretty dang nice history. His accounts are full of hard work paying out. 


 


 


A few years ago I priced a gelding (that I still own) online. I had just gotten Facebook and decided to just place him on there because I was having people come up to me at the little races wanting to purchase him. I literally had one video but it had some date to it. I placed the ad and put in a price of 75,000. I got hammered for asking that price on the ad. It was crazy the comments that were posted. One of my friends that must have followed the early on nonsense even posted a video she had of the horse from a recent outing. He had won the race by .3 on a standard set. The only horse that had been close to us was Latte. The horse has won or placed in the top 10 of a few races in Texas and had a few arena fast times. I was humble and didn't drop to the level of the rantings on my post. Took the high road and told my husband I won't be doing this again. It will always be private treaty. I had so many lowball offers from people that had no way seen this horse in person because I hadn't run in their state. What was the worst out of the whole experience is the few girls that did come to try him with their bank letter. Poor gals couldn't stay with him after the first turn. One was pulling on him by his third stride going to the first.


I'm an old dog in this sport and had the good fortune for my parents' friendships with some of the best in multi-discplines; my husband and I have seen the checks and handshakes on multi-figured horses and more recently on cows. 


I did take offense to those that low-balled my horse even before they had rode him a single stride. From now on, it will be a bank letter plus-I need to see your riding video before you ever get a chance to throw a leg over one that's got a bit of talent running thru his veins. I had wrongly believed that placement of price would  bring the great riders to this caliber of ride. I was so wrong. I have friends in my immediate area that train some of the most common names spoken at the big rodeo's if your not riding a horse of that level already forget about swinging up in their  saddle. We have to protect the time and investment but more imortantly a real talent from being crushed.


 


Ask him how he did at the AQHA show

 

 

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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2020-02-24 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers





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The only time it really irks me is when someone makes an offer before coming to try the horse. I.e asking $10,000 and they ask if you'll thousands less before they even come look at the horse. I also hate when people ask "What's your bottom dollar" before making an offer. Make an offer and give me the option to counter. . . nothing makes me more angry than when 'bottom dollar' is brought out before an offer is even made.

Also, just because someone has had a horse for sale for a long time also doesn't mean that they are going to be desperate to sell it and take less. I have one of mine causually listed right now; if she sells that's fine, but if not I am happy to keep her forever.

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y_do_i_do_this
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2020-02-24 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lowball offers




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Make an offer.  If they don't like it, who cares.

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