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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-11-18 12:57 PM
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Jane Fonda (barf):   Covid-19 is a "gift" to the Democratic party."

 

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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
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jd&ez - 2020-11-17 5:32 PM


JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM


more testing = more positive numbers. 


If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy. 


Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions. 


 


 



Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?


 


I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified. 


I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.


Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?


Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?


I'd hate to live inside your head.  It must be miserable being pi$$ed off and full of hate all the time. 

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Bear
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Fun2Run - 2020-11-18 6:41 PM


jd&ez - 2020-11-17 5:32 PM


JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM


more testing = more positive numbers. 


If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy. 


Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions. 


 


 



Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?


 


I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified. 


I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.


Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?


Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?



I'd hate to live inside your head.  It must be miserable being pi$$ed off and full of hate all the time. 


Just read what he writes.  He loses his ability to spell when he gets agitated.....then he loses all semblance of logic and reason.  It's a common trait with servile liberal lemmings.  Read the remark about McConnell and Graham.  The left poured hundreds of millions to defeat them, and they crushed their opponents. 

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JAG18
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2020-11-19 5:00 PM
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More testing is not going to result in more negative numbers because the majority of people who get tested already have symptoms or a reason to believe that they could have it.  Healthy people are not getting tested unless they are required to get tested because of their jobs or other reasons.

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okhorselover
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2020-11-20 7:39 PM
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All I have to say on this subject is I'm going to listen to MY OWN DR who I trust with my life not a bunch of people on a barrel forum. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-11-21 9:10 AM
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okhorselover - 2020-11-20 7:39 PM


All I have to say on this subject is I'm going to listen to MY OWN DR who I trust with my life not a bunch of people on a barrel forum. 


What does your doctor advise abut Covid.  Always ready to hear good input.   

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2020-11-21 9:25 AM
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I am 64 and husband 72. We have isolated and been very careful -- always wearing a mask when going to the grocery store,  feed store,  and using sanitzer, etc.  I have asthma.  Anyway, we think we had COVID a few weeks ago!  We both felt fatigued -- wanting to nap which we never do, had upset stomachs and felt a bit achy. We NEVER had a temperature or a cough.  We have been discussing asking our doctor for an antibody test to determine if we had it or not.  We are very curious if our 'episodes' were COVID -- as a rule, we are overall healthy, cannot recall the last time either of us had a cold.  We are totally up-to-date on all vaccines that folks our age should receive and have always received a flu vaccine. We both have also had penumonia vaccine (me, twice!); husband scheduled for second week after next.  Personally, I think most everyone will end up getting it regardless of what we do with masks and lockdowns.  If we have had it, we are at a loss as to where we were exposed..... don't know how it could ever be traced. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
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okhorselover - 2020-11-20 7:39 PM

All I have to say on this subject is I'm going to listen to MY OWN DR who I trust with my life not a bunch of people on a barrel forum. 

I have not seen any advice being given, just a good ole discussion about covid on here, just saying



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okhorselover
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2020-11-21 6:57 PM
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okhorselover - 2020-11-20 7:39 PM

All I have to say on this subject is I'm going to listen to MY OWN DR who I trust with my life not a bunch of people on a barrel forum. 

I have not seen any advice being given, just a good ole discussion about covid on here, just saying

I never said anyone was giving advice, All I was saying is I'd rather listen to my dr. I have seen lots of advice regarding covid. Didn't mean to start anything. Have a great evening 

 



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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-23 7:49 AM
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So this is just a nice discussion on Covid.Seems more like a JD/EZ bashing to me.  You all are so nice.

Let me ask..... If the tests are so wonky and awful.  What make you think the vaccine will be so great?

To answer the question....... If we quit testing anyone who has a mild case will be sitting next to you.  They could be your dentist, food prep worker, teacher or just anyone.  I personally don't think it would make much difference, since it appears we are all on our own anyway. 

Now since many hospitals are at capacity, I hear they are even letting positive healthcare workers work in SD or ND since they have so few nurses.  To quit testing would only make the situation worse.  Heck 1/2 the people still think it's a hoax or just a mild flu everyone will get  anyway.  

I believe the attitude on this board is a big insult to healthcare workers everywhere.  Course not that many on here care if they insult anyone.  I know Dr Bear will come on and tell us how he works on the front line and it's all good.  However the nurses I talk to don't sound as optimistic as him.  I know there are many nurses on this board, I sure wish we would hear from them.  Seems to me they don't have much free time or they would post more.  

I also think the actions of the so called President are a national embarrassment, he couldn't stay off TV before the election and now he's in hiding.  You all need to face fact he was more into Rallies than being President.  He shows you everyday.

I truly can't believe the lack of compassion on this board, it didn't used to be like this.  There are so many people struggling right now either because of lack of work, health issues, medical bills if they live and funeral costs and the loss of a loved one.  Yet all you all can do is act like the President, he has taught you all well.  I do think someone commented on me saying my wealthy friends were more self centered.  That may not be true I have some really poor Trump supporting friends, that are self centered too.  I guess wealth doesn't have as much to do with it as political party.

I also wonder how crazy you have to be to get fired by Rudy.

Here you go some fresh meat for a Monday morning. 

 

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Turnburnsis
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2020-11-23 9:37 AM
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You cant quit living!

I had an aunt that passed away from covid and she had other issues.  My uncle her husband very sick with covid and they got at same time. He is recovering.   I personally know a pharmacist, a couple nurses, and physical thereapist and they say hospitals not full, and yes they have some covid cases. and they say its been blown out of proportion.  and I'm sure has to do with location.

I had a co worker that had covid actually more than one but only one co worker that was sick from covid and four people in her household and in a car over 6 hours all together and only 2 of them was sick and tested positive covid the other 2 did not. 

Another family members in same household had covid and tested positive    2 of them got it (30 year olds) but the kids did not  kids under 12 yrs. old and the kids have severe asthma. and is sick every year! but they didnt get covid and they was exposed and they tested negative. 

All the people Im talking bout did qurantine after they found out they had.

it is contagious just like any other contagious virus.  Some will get it and some wont   

They say it has to do with immune why didnt the kids with severe asthma and every year gets strep and flu get covid???

We dont have all the answers and you dont know what to believe bc political has agenda. they are paying for positives or was paying for positives and handing out money before we was really shutdown!

If money wasnt involved and masks truly did protect we would have been wearing masks during the flu season already!

Fear is over riding common sense!

and the media is out of control that you can really only go by your own personal experience and trust the people in your circle.

Hospital rules of not letting anyone in hospital room with a love one was way over the top! I cant imagine not being with my husband in his last days  I dont care what he has and if you told me I would die within a couple hours if I was to be with him I would still be with him!  I understand not letting extended family or friends but everyone deserves that one person if that one person wants to be there! and the kids how scared they must have been! I cant imagine as a parent of a 1 year old getting life flighted by herself! and they didnt let mom in hospital with baby!  Thank God she survived and didnt have covid! was just respiratory sick! but how tramatic for mom! and baby!  Im sure there more stories like this! 

And now after these months has passed, a coworker son needed wisdom tooth pulled and she has to wait in parking lot while son get tooth pulled! Really if they had covid and covid supposed to live on things too but worker can bring paperwork to car and get child  you dont think covid be on the pen or paperwork or child??? makes no sense! so we going to tramatize child that already scared bout tooth being pulled and without his mom???

No matter if you for Trump or Biden....None of this makes sense....

I am one of the ones that dont wear masks unless I absolutely have to which is at work.  But I stay my distance from those that fear, and I would qurantine if I knew I was exposed or tested positive.  Am I going to get tested if sick nooooo but I would stay away from everyone just like I did before the virus hit!   if I lost taste and smell I would maybe test depending how sick I was....

 

Lets just say everyone stayed home in their house.  How long and how would the virus go away???   None of the other viruses just disappear.

Annnd one of the saddest things that I am seeing is families are not getting together! A co worker said she is fixing the whole meal but putting in to go boxes and family coming to her door to get box....REALLY  sooo sad!

We cant waste everyday on fear!  You dont get time back!

This is all based on my experience...This is why I believe the way I do. But it doesnt mean that Im not responsible or think that covid not real.

 

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-23 9:59 AM
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Turnburnsis........ I just want to Thank You for the well thought out post.  It's not the first one I have seen from you.  I may not agree with it all but I sure appreciate the time, your opinion and the fact that you didn't insult anyone.

I agree the family seperation is awful.  However I am in a high risk catagory with some extended family in nursing and a grand daughter who works in a grocery store.  So I think our Thanksgiving will be a little different this year.  Thankfully we live close and they gave me a puppy to keep me busy, we really haven't decided on what to do yet.  They know we love them and we get to see them often from a safe distance, none of us want to spend Christmas sick or in a hospital.

I really just wanted to thank you for the nice thought out post.  Have a great day.

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Bear
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Posted 2020-11-23 10:16 AM
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Palopony - 2020-11-23 7:49 AM

So this is just a nice discussion on Covid.Seems more like a JD/EZ bashing to me.  You all are so nice.

Let me ask..... If the tests are so wonky and awful.  What make you think the vaccine will be so great?

To answer the question....... If we quit testing anyone who has a mild case will be sitting next to you.  They could be your dentist, food prep worker, teacher or just anyone.  I personally don't think it would make much difference, since it appears we are all on our own anyway. 

Now since many hospitals are at capacity, I hear they are even letting positive healthcare workers work in SD or ND since they have so few nurses.  To quit testing would only make the situation worse.  Heck 1/2 the people still think it's a hoax or just a mild flu everyone will get  anyway.  

I believe the attitude on this board is a big insult to healthcare workers everywhere.  Course not that many on here care if they insult anyone.  I know Dr Bear will come on and tell us how he works on the front line and it's all good.  However the nurses I talk to don't sound as optimistic as him.  I know there are many nurses on this board, I sure wish we would hear from them.  Seems to me they don't have much free time or they would post more.  

I also think the actions of the so called President are a national embarrassment, he couldn't stay off TV before the election and now he's in hiding.  You all need to face fact he was more into Rallies than being President.  He shows you everyday.

I truly can't believe the lack of compassion on this board, it didn't used to be like this.  There are so many people struggling right now either because of lack of work, health issues, medical bills if they live and funeral costs and the loss of a loved one.  Yet all you all can do is act like the President, he has taught you all well.  I do think someone commented on me saying my wealthy friends were more self centered.  That may not be true I have some really poor Trump supporting friends, that are self centered too.  I guess wealth doesn't have as much to do with it as political party.

I also wonder how crazy you have to be to get fired by Rudy.

Here you go some fresh meat for a Monday morning. 

 

You seem to be inclined to assume a lot about me and what I'm saying.  Shame on you. Go back on this thread and specifically point out where you disagree with what I said and why. A few months back everyone on the left was squealing that we couldn't open back up again until we had a vaccine.  That was going to be our only hope, according to the left.  Well, this administration knocked down needless barriers to an expeditious development of a safe, effective vaccine.  The result was a vaccine that will be available first to those at highest risk of Covid19 within a couple weeks, and readily available to everyone within a few months. We have never developed an effective vaccine this rapidly to a new ("novel") virus.......not even remotely close.  This administration deserves credit for this.  Being a leftist, I honestly think you are thankful that Covid19 emerged out of China because it provided the key to defeating Trump.  You seem to have selective outrage over Trump's rallies being "super spreader events", yet you never condemned millions of loony leftists pouring into the streets of densely populated urban areas to riot, burn, murder, and loot, all the while ignoring social distancing guidelines.  The victory celebrations in the streets after the elections were similarly granted a pass.  You seem to selectively ignore the many instances of hypocrisy and double standards on display by prominent leftists, like Chris Cuomo, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Lori Lightfoot, Gretchen Whitmer, and Gavin Newsome when they themselves brazenly failed to display social distancing guidelines.  The fact of the matter is that we have pretty much maximized mask usage in this country.  Further drastic lockdowns will wind up creating more death and misery than the virus itself.  The extreme left wants to break this country down and re-create it to their liking.  They act as though they are saddened and shocked by the sickness, misery, and death, but I think they celebrate it and value it as a means to an end.  They will never openly admit it, but that's what I believe.  
I never said Covid19 was a hoax....but, in my opinion, the way the left wing media handled it was.

As for the election, if Biden assumes the office, he will do so with nearly half the country believing it was because of voting fraud and cheating.  We will all be watching Democrats flocking to Georgia in RV's and vans in an attempt to sway the special election.   That's a helluva way to "bring the country back together".  

I have one last question for you.  You and your innuendoes are just classic.  You said "I truly cannot believe the lack of compassion on this board..."  Really?  Who is showing a lack of compassion?  Are you afraid to point them out?  
You also said the "attitude on this board is an insult to healthcare workers everywhere".  How so?  Who is insulting them?  I'm a healthcare worker.  Even you don't insult me......you insult yourself.

Stop misrepresenting what I say.  



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Turnburnsis
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Palopony - 2020-11-23 9:59 AM

Turnburnsis........ I just want to Thank You for the well thought out post.  It's not the first one I have seen from you.  I may not agree with it all but I sure appreciate the time, your opinion and the fact that you didn't insult anyone.

I agree the family seperation is awful.  However I am in a high risk catagory with some extended family in nursing and a grand daughter who works in a grocery store.  So I think our Thanksgiving will be a little different this year.  Thankfully we live close and they gave me a puppy to keep me busy, we really haven't decided on what to do yet.  They know we love them and we get to see them often from a safe distance, none of us want to spend Christmas sick or in a hospital.

I really just wanted to thank you for the nice thought out post.  Have a great day.

Thank you!  I have been in deep thought for quite awhile!!! lolol

 

By the way I do believe if someone is HIGH RISK they should be even more careful than me! But if I am healthy and my high risk family member is ok with it Im gonna hug them!



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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-23 10:36 AM
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Bear - 2020-11-23 11:16 AM

Palopony - 2020-11-23 7:49 AM

So this is just a nice discussion on Covid.Seems more like a JD/EZ bashing to me.  You all are so nice.

Let me ask..... If the tests are so wonky and awful.  What make you think the vaccine will be so great?

To answer the question....... If we quit testing anyone who has a mild case will be sitting next to you.  They could be your dentist, food prep worker, teacher or just anyone.  I personally don't think it would make much difference, since it appears we are all on our own anyway. 

Now since many hospitals are at capacity, I hear they are even letting positive healthcare workers work in SD or ND since they have so few nurses.  To quit testing would only make the situation worse.  Heck 1/2 the people still think it's a hoax or just a mild flu everyone will get  anyway.  

I believe the attitude on this board is a big insult to healthcare workers everywhere.  Course not that many on here care if they insult anyone.  I know Dr Bear will come on and tell us how he works on the front line and it's all good.  However the nurses I talk to don't sound as optimistic as him.  I know there are many nurses on this board, I sure wish we would hear from them.  Seems to me they don't have much free time or they would post more.  

I also think the actions of the so called President are a national embarrassment, he couldn't stay off TV before the election and now he's in hiding.  You all need to face fact he was more into Rallies than being President.  He shows you everyday.

I truly can't believe the lack of compassion on this board, it didn't used to be like this.  There are so many people struggling right now either because of lack of work, health issues, medical bills if they live and funeral costs and the loss of a loved one.  Yet all you all can do is act like the President, he has taught you all well.  I do think someone commented on me saying my wealthy friends were more self centered.  That may not be true I have some really poor Trump supporting friends, that are self centered too.  I guess wealth doesn't have as much to do with it as political party.

I also wonder how crazy you have to be to get fired by Rudy.

Here you go some fresh meat for a Monday morning. 

 

You seem to be inclined to assume a lot about me and what I'm saying.  Shame on you. Go back on this thread and specifically point out where you disagree with what I said and why. A few months back everyone on the left was squealing that we couldn't open back up again until we had a vaccine.  That was going to be our only hope, according to the left.  Well, this administration knocked down needless barriers to an expeditious development of a safe, effective vaccine.  The result was a vaccine that will be available first to those at highest risk of Covid19 within a couple weeks, and readily available to everyone within a few months. We have never developed an effective vaccine this rapidly to a new ("novel") virus.......not even remotely close.  This administration deserves credit for this.  Being a leftist, I honestly think you are thankful that Covid19 emerged out of China because it provided the key to defeating Trump.  You seem to have selective outrage over Trump's rallies being "super spreader events", yet you never condemned millions of loony leftists pouring into the streets of densely populated urban areas to riot, burn, murder, and loot, all the while ignoring social distancing guidelines.  The victory celebrations in the streets after the elections were similarly granted a pass.  You seem to selectively ignore the many instances of hypocrisy and double standards on display by prominent leftists, like Chris Cuomo, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Lori Lightfoot, Gretchen Whitmer, and Gavin Newsome when they themselves brazenly failed to display social distancing guidelines.  The fact of the matter is that we have pretty much maximized mask usage in this country.  Further drastic lockdowns will wind up creating more death and misery than the virus itself.  The extreme left wants to break this country down and re-create it to their liking.  They act as though they are saddened and shocked by the sickness, misery, and death, but I think they celebrate it and value it as a means to an end.  They will never openly admit it, but that's what I believe.  
I never said Covid19 was a hoax....but, in my opinion, the way the left wing media handled it was.

As for the election, if Biden assumes the office, he will do so with nearly half the country believing it was because of voting fraud and cheating.  We will all be watching Democrats flocking to Georgia in RV's and vans in an attempt to sway the special election.   That's a helluva way to "bring the country back together".  

Stop misrepresenting what I say.  

Yoo seem to have some selected reading issues also.  I have always called out the protesters along with the rally attendees.  From the very beginning.

You can also blame the media all you want, if not for them how much would be swept under the rug and replaced with right wing crazy talking points.

I think the difference in political parties is we call out our crazy.  Who do you think reported on Nancy going to the hair salon?  I'm less concerned about her hair than I am about the Perdue guy and the other lady doing their shady insider trading.  Also glad the media brought attention to both.

I do give him credit for speeding up the vaccine process.  I'm just not so sure how much I trust the process yet.  Since the tests are so faulty what makes you think the vaccine will be any better?  Since we don't have any info on the side effects, or long term side effects.  I'm not anti vaccine but I don't believe the drug companies have our best interest at heart.  IMO many of them seem to be more concerned with the $$$.

I read yesterday that some hospitals charge 1800% more that what the actual costs are.  And people wonder why healthcare and insurance is a joke.

 

ETA:  On lack of compassion....... well a few want to meet JD/EZ and I don't think it's to discuss how much they like his views.  Then there are those who think we should just go on like nothing is happening.  I remember when this board got a helicopter to rescure someone from Katrina and how helpful many were to those suffering through it.  Seems now no one is very helpful, many comments are snide and hateful even on the horse topics.  I'm pretty much tired of being called a loony leftist, and I'm tired of the right wing dictatorship and mob mentality.

You have no idea of anyones story but your own.  Quit telling me how the left is.  If any of you would listen more than you preach you might understand.  I don't seem much empathy on this board either.  When I think of all the people who have been run off by the right thinking bunch it makes me sad.



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Bear
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Palopony, I added these questions for you on my last post:

 

I have one last question for you.  You and your innuendoes are just classic.  You said "I truly cannot believe the lack of compassion on this board..."  Really?  Who is showing a lack of compassion?  Are you afraid to point them out?  
You also said the "attitude on this board is an insult to healthcare workers everywhere".  How so?  Who is insulting them?  I'm a healthcare worker.  Even you don't insult me......you insult yourself.

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
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Bear - 2020-11-23 11:49 AM


Palopony, I added these questions for you on my last post:


 


I have one last question for you.  You and your innuendoes are just classic.  You said "I truly cannot believe the lack of compassion on this board..."  Really?  Who is showing a lack of compassion?  Are you afraid to point them out?  
You also said the "attitude on this board is an insult to healthcare workers everywhere".  How so?  Who is insulting them?  I'm a healthcare worker.  Even you don't insult me......you insult yourself.


I was taking the puppy out see above.

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