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Location: North Texas | Mighty Broke - 2021-01-14 10:41 AM
Many are upset and feel the election was stolen. I cannot hardly belive that Biden under performed Hillary all around the country, even in places he won, yet in these five places in question he "magically" over performed to the degree that he got the most votes EVER. Logic doesn't make that add up, but can that be proven---doesn't seem like it so we move on. Big Picture---I believe the events in DC were somewhat planned for the simple fact shortly afterwards the DC Mayor immediately stated that DC should be a state and it will be addressed in Bidens first 100 days because she had no authority to ask for thh National Guard to help the situation. What does this do---2 more Democratic Senators and two more closer to doing away with a Fillibuster. Many feel that Puerto Rico will follow---boom, two more Senators and then all retaliation from the Right is over. The Left can do what they want and nothing to stop it. It is a real scarey time for America whether you are Right or Left----Freedom Of Speech is being squashed and no matter what---this cannot be allowed no matter which side you are on. I really has my fill when the Hunter Investigation was being labeled Fake News and False right up to the election then shortly afterwards the mainstream media said----wait a minute this is real and then reported on it. I felt like this was throwing it in Americas face---we, the media, can do whatever we want and there is not a thing you can do about it.
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DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 9:42 AM
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Both sides have thier fair share of asshats ignore them. When you can hide behind a computer screen it amazes me how stupid pepole can be. For the time being we still have free speech hold on to your beliefs and stand your ground.
Actually these people were not anonymous. We use our real names. I expect even as a Trump supporter I will now be harrassed by Trump supporters for condemning their violence. Oh well better than being a hypocrite I suppose.
martyrdom is fun too.
You do you
Not really and not attempting to be a martyr. I am angry and concerned that the right will throw away their chance to recover in the midterms.
That ship already sailed. The right failed to fight. They always talk a good game but when its time to stand thier ground they run like little girls. There are exceptions but as a party they fail. Trump has a chance to form a strong third party with some B***S. To me it's time to form a strong conservitve Constitutional third party. After the last election the Dem's have staked the deck and gilled the Rep's as a party they will not servive just like the wig party didn't. The dem's have two years to change the rules to hold the congress and they will.
I think we still have a chance. The right is infamous for tucking tail but standing up and fighting doesn't have to be done through violence. We haven't even given those that have been newly seated a chance to work for us.
I am disheartened reading what I am reading but I do feel your angry just not your solutions.
The fork is in, I am truly done.
I think I did give my solution. I don't want to see the violence but I can understand it. The America pepole will only stand for so much and that point is getting very close. A quick look at gun and ammo sales will tell you that the public is ****ed. I agree that some of the new members of congress look vary promissing but we still have way to many of the old guard that just want to go back to the old party before Trump. Trump is not a god but was put there to represent a movement to move away from the old way of doing things that I want to see survive. |
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Location: North Texas | Please consider: 1. Trump specified peaceful protest when asking people to rally.
2. Antifa posted that they would infiltrate the rally.
3. Known Antifa members took pictures of themselves in pro Trump hats and clothing.
4. The group who breached the capitol building were there in place before Trump started speaking.
5. The timings make it physically impossible to have both listened to Trump's speech and breach the capitol building.
6. This means they were doing this INSTEAD of listening to Trump, not DUE TO anything said by Trump.
7. There was not one word in Trump's speech encouraging violence.
8. No media source has been able to cite one statement from Trump encouraging violence.
9. Trump's first comments after the breach and as soon as he was made aware of it are instructions to be peaceful.
10. Once again millions of column inches of hate and incitement to violence directed against Trump and Trump voters has resulted from mainstream media reporting bias.
11.Once again an evidence free, or rather directly contrary to known evidence impeachment is immediately launched by Pelosi.
12.Once again multiple direct incitements to violence and rioting from Pelosi are ignored. Past statements in which she supported activists breaking into the capitol building are ignored.
13. There is no evidence linking Trump in any way to the 'storming' of the capitol building.
14. There is strong evidence that entry was gained not by storming barricades but by having doors and entrances opened by the police and being allowed in.
15. Writing to the Pentagon and VP in an attempt to have the President removed and the nuclear codes seized, as Pelosi did, could pretty easily itself fit the definition of an insurrection.
16.Urging capitol police not to confront activists who had invaded the building in 2018, as Pelosi did, is again a more direct example of condoning insurrection that anything said by Trump.
17.Launching multiple specious impeachment charges against a serving President based solely on hatred of that President and contrary to established evidence is YET AGAIN closer to the definition of insurrection than anything Trump has said or done.
18. Supporting massive electoral fraud to reverse a result and remove a legitimate President is again a form of insurrection.
19. Blocking all proper investigation of this electoral fraud or refusing to examine the evidence fairly, as all official parties and the media have done, would if proven to be a deliberate attempt to aid a false result also fit the definition of insurrection.
20. Silencing accounts, individuals, companies and groups that wish to discuss these matters contravenes the constitutional right to free speech, as well as AGAIN if deliberate to aid an illegitimate result fitting the definition of insurrection.” ~ Bartholomew Chiaroscuro |
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Location: North Texas | Dirt Dobber, please read and comment. https://krisannehall.com/index.php/resources/articles/704-did-trump-incite-a-riot-a-memorandum-of-law |
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Location: OH. IO | DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 11:04 AM jake16 - 2021-01-14 9:57 AM DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 10:42 AM 1DSoon - 2021-01-14 8:58 AM DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 9:11 AM jbhoot - 2021-01-14 7:49 AM Both sides have thier fair share of asshats ignore them. When you can hide behind a computer screen it amazes me how stupid pepole can be. For the time being we still have free speech hold on to your beliefs and stand your ground. Actually these people were not anonymous. We use our real names. I expect even as a Trump supporter I will now be harrassed by Trump supporters for condemning their violence. Oh well better than being a hypocrite I suppose. martyrdom is fun too. You do you Not really and not attempting to be a martyr. I am angry and concerned that the right will throw away their chance to recover in the midterms. Throw away chances in the mid term?they didnt throw away their chances in the election and yet still,a corrupt election sent it right to the dems.You have to understand the frustration of the right,and the left just keeps it going,dont forget about the people killed,businesses and peoples incomes being burned to the ground,cops killed and murdered,people are SICK OF IT,we have to stand up for something! people dont have to think about things the same way,that doesnt mean they dont care,in fact maybe they want all the madness to end and they are willing to fight for it! Have you selectively thrown away all my post as a Trump supporter for the last 4 month or so just because I disagree on one issue? Really? Not at all,im just wondering how a network or whatever it was you were on could get to you so bad?Was it fb?I know what a strong supporter you were,i was just posting some of the bad things you were against to hopefully instill some of your spirit back.I never took you for someone that would just put a FORK IN IT.aand palopony ill go ahead and push the laugh button for you
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The Dems have been at Trumps throat since day one, Ole Pelosi started the impeachment against Trump since day one. The Dems gave the greenlight that it was ok to Riot, Loot, burn the honest business man's business's down to the ground, they the Dems gave the greenlight to takeove a part of Portland to trash and burn down, but when the Republican's fought back that was bad, we are suppose to sit back and let all the looters and Riots take place, but the Republican people are not wired that way, we fight for our rights just like anybody else. All the Republican protests have been peaceful until the Capital, and I dont think it was planned to peaceful I truley believe that there were Antifa and BLM inplants in the groups to get the violence strated. TRUMP DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE VIOLENCE.. just like Trump was not at fault with the Covid, he gets blame for everything that was not in his power to fix. The Republican people are sick of being ran over by these Dems, so sure they are going to be really sensitive when others accuse them of being in the wrong or fighting for their rights. We have our rights too.. But the Dems are trying to take that away from us too.
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Location: OH. IO | jake16 - 2021-01-14 12:01 PM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 11:04 AM
jake16 - 2021-01-14 9:57 AM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 10:42 AM
1DSoon - 2021-01-14 8:58 AM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 9:11 AM
jbhoot - 2021-01-14 7:49 AM
Both sides have thier fair share of asshats ignore them. When you can hide behind a computer screen it amazes me how stupid pepole can be. For the time being we still have free speech hold on to your beliefs and stand your ground.
Actually these people were not anonymous. We use our real names. I expect even as a Trump supporter I will now be harrassed by Trump supporters for condemning their violence. Oh well better than being a hypocrite I suppose.
martyrdom is fun too.
You do you
Not really and not attempting to be a martyr. I am angry and concerned that the right will throw away their chance to recover in the midterms.
Throw away chances in the mid term?they didnt throw away their chances in the election and yet still,a corrupt election sent it right to the dems.You have to understand the frustration of the right,and the left just keeps it going,dont forget about the people killed,businesses and peoples incomes being burned to the ground,cops killed and murdered,people are SICK OF IT,we have to stand up for something!people dont have to think about things the same way,that doesnt mean they dont care,in fact maybe they want all the madness to end and they are willing to fight for it!
Have you selectively thrown away all my post as a Trump supporter for the last 4 month or so just because I disagree on one issue? Really?
Not at all,im just wondering how a network or whatever it was you were on could get to you so bad?Was it fb?I know what a strong supporter you were,i was just posting some of the bad things you were against to hopefully instill some of your spirit back.I never took you for someone that would just put a FORK IN IT.aand palopony ill go ahead and push the laugh button for you
Heck,im not even sure at this point what issue you are referring to,the conversation really hasnt gave one issue,is it the capitol RIOT,or i see you posted about the stalking,What are you specifically saying im disagreeing with.......im not seeing my disagreement? |
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Location: Kansas | Welcome back Foundation Horse. I loved your posts back then and I love them now. |
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Location: North Texas | Frodo - 2021-01-14 11:51 AM
Welcome back Foundation Horse. I loved your posts back then and I love them now.
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| So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise. Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career. There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it. Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
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Location: North Texas | DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 12:10 PM
So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
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| DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 12:10 PM
So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
People! This lady comes with no other agenda than to discuss diplomatically her feelings. If we attack her message and attack her we might as well throw in the towel. We are no better than the rest. What draws us together is greater than what draws us apart. |
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Location: WYOMING | Gail - 2021-01-14 2:26 PM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 12:10 PM
So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
People! This lady comes with no other agenda than to discuss diplomatically her feelings. If we attack her message and attack her we might as well throw in the towel. We are no better than the rest.
What draws us together is greater than what draws us apart.
LOL With greater numbers of posters returning comes greater opportunities to baby sit. LOLOL! |
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Location: North Texas | geronabean - 2021-01-14 1:39 PM
Gail - 2021-01-14 2:26 PM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 12:10 PM
So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
People! This lady comes with no other agenda than to discuss diplomatically her feelings. If we attack her message and attack her we might as well throw in the towel. We are no better than the rest.
What draws us together is greater than what draws us apart.
LOL With greater numbers of posters returning comes greater opportunities to baby sit. LOLOL!
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geronabean - 2021-01-14 1:39 PM
Gail - 2021-01-14 2:26 PM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 12:10 PM
So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
People! This lady comes with no other agenda than to discuss diplomatically her feelings. If we attack her message and attack her we might as well throw in the towel. We are no better than the rest.
What draws us together is greater than what draws us apart.
LOL With greater numbers of posters returning comes greater opportunities to baby sit. LOLOL!
LMAO
I was kind of hoping to retire and babysit my grandkids! LOL Hey who knows? Maybe the entire reason BHW ever came into existence is to preserve free speech at such a time like this? :) :) Democrat's you are welcome here. All voices - just don't make personal attacks ( I know you will say Trump did but this isn't his forum) |
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Location: North Texas | Gail - 2021-01-14 1:59 PM
foundation horse - 2021-01-14 1:46 PM
geronabean - 2021-01-14 1:39 PM
Gail - 2021-01-14 2:26 PM
DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 12:10 PM
So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
People! This lady comes with no other agenda than to discuss diplomatically her feelings. If we attack her message and attack her we might as well throw in the towel. We are no better than the rest.
What draws us together is greater than what draws us apart.
LOL With greater numbers of posters returning comes greater opportunities to baby sit. LOLOL!
LMAO
I was kind of hoping to retire and babysit my grandkids! LOL
Hey who knows? Maybe the entire reason BHW ever came into existence is to preserve free speech at such a time like this? :) :)
Democrat's you are welcome here. All voices - just don't make personal attacks ( I know you will say Trump did but this isn't his forum)
Gail/Dave THANK YA'LL FOR THE OPPORUNITY TO HAVE A FORUM! Now, I know 'I' can be difficult to deal with at times, but I believe in Freedom of Speech! |
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So, at lunch some of us revisited the discussion this morning and our takeaway. First this was not about the name calling, I have been called plenty over my lifetime and many I wear well, some I don't. It was about how easily Trump supporters turned on their own for having an opposing opinion and the violent undertones in the discussion. I would never have started this thread had I any idea so many of you felt the same. I honestly had no clue. You have every right to feel how you do as we all do and would never have stepped in such a hornet's nest otherwise.
Anyhow our final takeaway was some of us do not support the latest direction of the Trump party, sadly neither do we support the rinos or the snivelers out to save their political career.
There isn’t anyone that can be angrier than me especially living in Georgia. But I think there will be many like us that will walk away, and not because of the democrats. Bless it.
Foundation horse I somewhat remember you from years ago and really enjoyed reading your post. My apologies for not reading or responding to any more of your post here. If I read any more beyond my last response I will be inclined to post and that is neither productive or time worthy. I have cyber security training waiting on me. Scary I know.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | DirtDobber - 2021-01-14 6:21 AM
I dared to have an opposing opinion during a discussion among Trump supporters and here are a few things that were directed at me.
I am a liar, cheat, thief, abortion supporter, pedo, weak and need to get right with GOD. Plus I was called a dude without supporting evidence.lol I was told to quit trying to censor their speech. One supporter wants to sit out at democrat houses and left the conversation at watch for their wives to leave.
Honestly this part of the republican party and Trump supporters is disturbing. This is what we are use to from the left. If this becomes the loudest voice republicans are headed to self destruction.
Stick a fork in me I am done.
oh geesh, it works both ways. In the discussions I've been in the Lib's are always right and always have to have the last word. Using your argument and the way the left has been the loudest voice does that mean they are headed for self destruction...I can only hope LOL |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | DirtDobber is a Trump Lady just like the rest of us, her opinion just was a little different then ours, and she has the right to say how she feels just like the rest of us.. I enjoy her posts but I think some just took it a bit different today, and thats OK.. Thats why I never Facebooked cause I know alot of Crazy things happen on there, lol..Thats why I'm a BHW person, BHW this is my Facebooking, lol..And love it here, I think the people on here are alot more honest.. |
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