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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-02-22 5:00 PM
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Their 11-year-old son was found dead in his bed Tuesday morning after their mobile home lost power as chaos descended on Texas. Now, the family has sued the energy company for gross negligence.

Houston attorney Tony Buzbee filed the lawsuit Saturday against Entergy Texas and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas on behalf of the Pineda family, who believes their son, Cristian, died of hypothermia in the subfreezing cold snap that blanketed the state last week.

“Common sense tells you the weather played a part in his death,” Buzbee told Click2Houston. “His mother is very adamant, clear that he had no underlying conditions whatsoever that would make him particularly vulnerable to cold weather.”

 

 

hey texas  whats the scoop  its sad  really but quit a few died  did they not

 

i can not image the cold  u all went thru

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-22 6:06 PM
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I saw that story and it's really sad. I do not have any idea how this is going to turn out. It was dang sure cold that's for sure and not having any heat source to stay warm... brutal... I don't know all the details.... but I will say it got cold enough in our trailer we could see our breath. I will also say, I slept in my house 2 nights under  probably 6 blankets plus 5 dogs piled up on me and I stayed warm.... enough... the rest of the time I had slept in our lq ... my daughter stayed with the dogs a few nights too, piled up with blankets,  in 1 room with doors closed .. it helped a little... but still very cold ... I hate even thinking about it anymore. It'll be interesting for sure to see how this pans in court. I hope they get something but no amount will ever bring their son back. Very sad deal 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-02-22 6:35 PM
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dumb qestion were there any shelters

 

 

can you image   when our ansectors wenty through this how many died

 

we are so blessed  

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-22 8:34 PM
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vjls - 2021-02-22 6:35 PM


dumb qestion were there any shelters


 


 


can you image   when our ansectors wenty through this how many died


 


we are so blessed  


I'm not 100% sure in that area if there was. I know there were a few churches and the expo center in Belton was opened up for shelter in our area... but... the roads were treacherous with all the ice and downed trees/power lines so that could have been an issue for some... (depending on  the timeline) I know a lot of people drove their elderly and folks with young kids/babies to shelters... some shelters were open only till 9 or 10pm locally too, so that wouldn't help overnight. 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-02-22 11:52 PM
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It's a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but I sure as hell would want to know more details before jumping on any bandwagon.  Bad deal, all the way around.  

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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2021-02-23 5:45 AM
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I need to know why and when the government became responsible for the weather...

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-02-23 5:48 AM
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want2chase3 - 2021-02-22 6:06 PM

I saw that story and it's really sad. I do not have any idea how this is going to turn out. It was dang sure cold that's for sure and not having any heat source to stay warm... brutal... I don't know all the details.... but I will say it got cold enough in our trailer we could see our breath. I will also say, I slept in my house 2 nights under  probably 6 blankets plus 5 dogs piled up on me and I stayed warm.... enough... the rest of the time I had slept in our lq ... my daughter stayed with the dogs a few nights too, piled up with blankets,  in 1 room with doors closed .. it helped a little... but still very cold ... I hate even thinking about it anymore. It'll be interesting for sure to see how this pans in court. I hope they get something but no amount will ever bring their son back. Very sad deal 

Not to make a very serious subject sound flippant, but your dog story reminded me of the rock group Three Dog Night.  I wondered what that name was about and one day heard it explained. In super cold environments like Eskimos in Alaska, the number of dogs you needed to help you stay warm at night went like that. It could be as cold as a Six Dog Night.  



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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2021-02-23 6:54 AM
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I have a feeling that she won't win.   Tables might even be turned on her for gross negligence.   

I'm sorry, I would not be sending my child to sleep alone. We'd all make our own "dog pile" and snuggle to stay warm.   I think that is where the lawsuit falls apart.  That the poor kid was alone in his bed. 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-23 7:09 AM
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I was thinking about this last night.... while it's incredibly sad and horrific what happened to their, otherwise healthy son, I highly doubt they will have much to stand on in court. And 100 million... is that what they feel it's worth? It was cold.... no power, but did they not have blankets? A vehicle to go sit in to warm up in ? We did that too when we needed to charge phones. I wonder what the autopsy will reveal. I cannot imagine what that family is going thru. There is a small family that lives around the corner from us, in a shack... I can't even call it a house, because it's literally a shack, they are what people call Trashy... they have garbage and JUNK everywhere,  strewn about their 8 acres, it's a total disgrace and honestly quite embarrassing when we people come to our house they have to drive by that first... they don't clean, they just throw trash outside in the yard ... numerous cats and dogs... its a disgrace.  They have kids that live there.. on the north side of of their shack, it's covered up with a several pieces of large plywood and an area rug. When this weather happened,  I worried about their kids ... but they were fine .. somehow.. I know for a fact they've been without power several times because they have hit us up for water. It's looks like the child who passed away lived in a single wide trailer, I know these trailer houses are not well insulated,  especially the older ones.. ours is a newer model and has upgraded insulation, it holds up pretty well...but we could still see our breath in it on the coldest nights. 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-23 7:24 AM
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Nateracer - 2021-02-23 6:54 AM


I have a feeling that she won't win.   Tables might even be turned on her for gross negligence.   


I'm sorry, I would not be sending my child to sleep alone. We'd all make our own "dog pile" and snuggle to stay warm.   I think that is where the lawsuit falls apart.  That the poor kid was alone in his bed. 


That's a very good point. I didn't catch that he was sent to sleep alone. Wow.... how sad..... I don't understand people. This weather event was a freak incident we were all caught with our britches down, that's for sure. We knew it was going to be cold, freezing actually,  I'll be honest,  I never once thought of being without power thru it! We prepped for cold freezing weather, but wasn't prepared for doing it without electricity to keep us warm... that's on us...we learned a huge lesson from it. Obviously the entire state was not prepared for this. There is a lot of finger pointing going on, I get it... some people need someone to blame instead of being self accountable and learning to be self sufficient. Just look at all the hoopla of Ted Cruz going to Cancun while this was happening... I didn't care, he wasn't out here working on our place or going and getting us fuel and propan,  checking on eldery neighbors, pulling cars out of ditches that slid off the ice .... grumbling over cruz going to Cancun was a waste of time and breath, IMO. Was it a stupid move on his part.. yep... but whatever. 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-23 7:35 AM
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CanCan - 2021-02-23 5:45 AM


I need to know why and when the government became responsible for the weather...


They aren't responsible for the weather, thank God for that. But they are responsible for making sure our resources are maintained and prepared for things like this. I haven't had much time to read all the information but I've heard and read bits and pieces that they were warned that the equipment needed to be winterized, prepared etc etc and apparently it fell on deaf ears. Not sure of all the details though. Different people say different things. Someone somewhere dropped the ball, I'm sure. Then again...this weather event was unprecedented.. who knows

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2021-02-23 7:44 AM
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Nateracer - 2021-02-23 6:54 AM


I have a feeling that she won't win.   Tables might even be turned on her for gross negligence.   


I'm sorry, I would not be sending my child to sleep alone. We'd all make our own "dog pile" and snuggle to stay warm.   I think that is where the lawsuit falls apart.  That the poor kid was alone in his bed. 


He was NOT alone ......

"The Pineda family were without electricity and heat for two days as temperatures dropped to -12C (10F) where they lived, according to the lawsuit.

Speaking to the Houston Chronicle newspaper, his mother said Christian saw snow last Sunday for the first time since the family migrated from Honduras two years ago. She described him as being "excited" to play outside".

"Everything was well. He was happy that day. He was not at all sick," she said.

The family of five said they stayed together in one room that night to keep warm. Cristian shared a bed with his younger brother, aged three, but was unresponsive the next day when his mother tried to wake him. She called the emergency services and tried to resuscitate him but without success, according to the legal filing."

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cranky B4 10am
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2021-02-23 8:30 AM
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NJJ - 2021-02-23 7:44 AM


Nateracer - 2021-02-23 6:54 AM


I have a feeling that she won't win.   Tables might even be turned on her for gross negligence.   


I'm sorry, I would not be sending my child to sleep alone. We'd all make our own "dog pile" and snuggle to stay warm.   I think that is where the lawsuit falls apart.  That the poor kid was alone in his bed. 



He was NOT alone ......


"The Pineda family were without electricity and heat for two days as temperatures dropped to -12C (10F) where they lived, according to the lawsuit.




Speaking to the Houston Chronicle newspaper, his mother said Christian saw snow last Sunday for the first time since the family migrated from Honduras two years ago. She described him as being "excited" to play outside".






"Everything was well. He was happy that day. He was not at all sick," she said.






The family of five said they stayed together in one room that night to keep warm. Cristian shared a bed with his younger brother, aged three, but was unresponsive the next day when his mother tried to wake him. She called the emergency services and tried to resuscitate him but without success, according to the legal filing."




I know this is a very sad thing that has happened... but they waited till mid afternoon to check on him?? That sounds a bit weird. Yes he was known to sleep in, but with this weather you'd think they'd at least check in on him every couple of hours... 

So, did his brother sleep in also?? Not trying to blame anyone, but I'm not sure that this is more than just an unfortunate incident.... 

Piñeda and her husband desperately tried to keep Cristian and his 3-year-old brother warm despite the lack of heat, but the sixth-grader appeared to be OK.

“He was fine,” the woman told Univision. “I never imagined this. We believe it was the cold because he was fine. He had dinner, played and went to bed. He told me ‘I’m going to sleep.’”

The boy’s stepfather checked on the kids sometime overnight and both were OK and breathing, Piñeda said. Around 2:30 p.m. the next day, Cristian, who was known for sleeping in, was found unresponsive in his bed, according to the family.

Emergency personnel arrived at the scene moments later but could not revive him.

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2021-02-23 8:48 AM
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want2chase3 - 2021-02-23 7:35 AM


CanCan - 2021-02-23 5:45 AM


I need to know why and when the government became responsible for the weather...



They aren't responsible for the weather, thank God for that. But they are responsible for making sure our resources are maintained and prepared for things like this. I haven't had much time to read all the information but I've heard and read bits and pieces that they were warned that the equipment needed to be winterized, prepared etc etc and apparently it fell on deaf ears. Not sure of all the details though. Different people say different things. Someone somewhere dropped the ball, I'm sure. Then again...this weather event was unprecedented.. who knows


True....they are not in charge of the weather .... but I see many lawsuits coming in the future. ERDOT was advised OVER ten years ago to upgrade their systems for just this problem (cold weather). Additionally, the astronomical electric bills ???? What the H*LL ?????? 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-23 9:01 AM
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Oh yeah, there will be more lawsuits.. this won't be swept under the rug. As far as electric bills go... and please correct me if I've misunderstood,  but the way I understand it is that the outrageous bills are on variable plans .... i.e. the more you use, the less you're charged type thing KWH and greatly depends on who you're with.. we are with TXU and have a fixed rate...I just received my bill from last month so I'm not sure what my next one will be, but I'll be waiting for it, because 10 days of no usage should be pretty significant. I could be totally wrong with my idea above on high electric bills.. I overheard a few people saying they were on an autopay plan with their electric company and their bank account was hit hard by this electric bill... buuuuut.. depending on the billing cycle,  doesn't it seem kind of fast to be being billed for this already? None of this really adds up to me. My bill I just received isn't reflected on what we just went thru, that will be on my next one. Again,  I'm not sure if that is how any of that works...so.. grain of salt here... 

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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2021-02-23 9:07 AM
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NJJ - 2021-02-23 7:44 AM


Nateracer - 2021-02-23 6:54 AM


I have a feeling that she won't win.   Tables might even be turned on her for gross negligence.   


I'm sorry, I would not be sending my child to sleep alone. We'd all make our own "dog pile" and snuggle to stay warm.   I think that is where the lawsuit falls apart.  That the poor kid was alone in his bed. 



He was NOT alone ......


"The Pineda family were without electricity and heat for two days as temperatures dropped to -12C (10F) where they lived, according to the lawsuit.




Speaking to the Houston Chronicle newspaper, his mother said Christian saw snow last Sunday for the first time since the family migrated from Honduras two years ago. She described him as being "excited" to play outside".






"Everything was well. He was happy that day. He was not at all sick," she said.






The family of five said they stayed together in one room that night to keep warm. Cristian shared a bed with his younger brother, aged three, but was unresponsive the next day when his mother tried to wake him. She called the emergency services and tried to resuscitate him but without success, according to the legal filing."




So the 3 year old survived but the 11 year old did not. Hmm.. is it just me or is that a little weird?

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Hellokaitlynn
Reg. Feb 2021
Posted 2021-02-25 1:35 AM
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There are many aspects of this that is just plain disturbing man. I just feel sad that there is still something that happens like this because there are just some problematic aspects of the government and how they run their systems. There are just some aspects of their activities that just do not make sense because there are just people who are not able to fix that kind of thing. It is rough to see but there are just some possibilities that come out from there and there should be something done. It is rough to see their freakin senator is going away to cancun or something and not giving a care to the place he is supposed to be leading and helping the people in need.

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-25 5:37 AM
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want2chase3 - 2021-02-23 8:35 AM


CanCan - 2021-02-23 5:45 AM


I need to know why and when the government became responsible for the weather...



They aren't responsible for the weather, thank God for that. But they are responsible for making sure our resources are maintained and prepared for things like this. I haven't had much time to read all the information but I've heard and read bits and pieces that they were warned that the equipment needed to be winterized, prepared etc etc and apparently it fell on deaf ears. Not sure of all the details though. Different people say different things. Someone somewhere dropped the ball, I'm sure. Then again...this weather event was unprecedented.. who knows


No the Government is not resoponsible or should it be for anything you said. 

 

 

 

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-02-25 5:38 AM
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GLP - 2021-02-23 10:07 AM


NJJ - 2021-02-23 7:44 AM


Nateracer - 2021-02-23 6:54 AM


I have a feeling that she won't win.   Tables might even be turned on her for gross negligence.   


I'm sorry, I would not be sending my child to sleep alone. We'd all make our own "dog pile" and snuggle to stay warm.   I think that is where the lawsuit falls apart.  That the poor kid was alone in his bed. 



He was NOT alone ......


"The Pineda family were without electricity and heat for two days as temperatures dropped to -12C (10F) where they lived, according to the lawsuit.




Speaking to the Houston Chronicle newspaper, his mother said Christian saw snow last Sunday for the first time since the family migrated from Honduras two years ago. She described him as being "excited" to play outside".






"Everything was well. He was happy that day. He was not at all sick," she said.






The family of five said they stayed together in one room that night to keep warm. Cristian shared a bed with his younger brother, aged three, but was unresponsive the next day when his mother tried to wake him. She called the emergency services and tried to resuscitate him but without success, according to the legal filing."





So the 3 year old survived but the 11 year old did not. Hmm.. is it just me or is that a little weird?


it's not just you. 

 

No way in He!! that kid just layed there and froze to death. 

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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2021-02-25 6:19 AM
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"sleeping in" is not sleeping until 2:30...when it's apparently very cold...missing 2 meals.  That was a clear sign that something was wrong.  Was it the cold?...sure seems odd for a "healthy" kid to sleep like that and not survive temps a 3 year old apparently did.   I don't know...but this sure doesn't add up for me.

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