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            Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The Judge bans MSNBC from the CourtHouse   |
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         Location: Bastrop, Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-18 11:36 AM
The Judge bans MSNBC from the CourtHouse  
I just saw that. The bastards were supposedly following the bus and trying to take photos of the jurors. The judge canceled them. Banned from being in the courthouse. Good for him. Seems to me this is part of an effort at jury intimidation. Between the mob outside, the media (CNN and MSNBC), and now this stunt, I can't help but think this is playing into the jury's deliberations. Obviously, an acquittal means more of Kenosha burns. These are citizens of Kenosha. BLM and Antifa are having their way. I'd be very surprised to see Kyle acquitted. I'd love to see the judge rule a mistrial with prejudice if he is declared guilty of anything. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Bear - 2021-11-18 1:33 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-18 11:36 AM
The Judge bans MSNBC from the CourtHouse  
I just saw that. The bastards were supposedly following the bus and trying to take photos of the jurors. The judge canceled them. Banned from being in the courthouse. Good for him. Seems to me this is part of an effort at jury intimidation. Between the mob outside, the media (CNN and MSNBC), and now this stunt, I can't help but think this is playing into the jury's deliberations. Obviously, an acquittal means more of Kenosha burns. These are citizens of Kenosha. BLM and Antifa are having their way. I'd be very surprised to see Kyle acquitted. I'd love to see the judge rule a mistrial with prejudice if he is declared guilty of anything.
The Judge can set aside a verdict.
He has already intimated that if found guilty he will drop the perverbial hammer on the Prosectuion team. Brady comes into play over the video issue He removed MSNBC from Court Room after NBC reporter was jailed for photographing jury Very little chance at this point that justice is served via jury.
Also a note, I was a little surprised that there was no directed verdict after the prosecution rested their case. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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            Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2021-11-18 12:33 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-18 11:36 AM
The Judge bans MSNBC from the CourtHouse  
I just saw that. The bastards were supposedly following the bus and trying to take photos of the jurors. The judge canceled them. Banned from being in the courthouse. Good for him. Seems to me this is part of an effort at jury intimidation. Between the mob outside, the media (CNN and MSNBC), and now this stunt, I can't help but think this is playing into the jury's deliberations. Obviously, an acquittal means more of Kenosha burns. These are citizens of Kenosha. BLM and Antifa are having their way. I'd be very surprised to see Kyle acquitted. I'd love to see the judge rule a mistrial with prejudice if he is declared guilty of anything.
And these so called Heros are nothing but thugs/criminals. Rosenbaum is a CHILD RAPIST, he raped them repeatedly, all boys ages 9 to 11. The other two beat up women and one of them even beat up his own grandmother, that Prosecutor is a sorry piece of *hit!!!!! Hes nothing but scum!!!!!! What the Hell is wrong with people???????????? |
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        Location: 31 lengths farms | Anyone see the peice on when the prosecution texted the drone footage to the defense knowing that when you text it it compresses it and the result is video so poor that you cAnnot make heads nor tails of it???? You know, instead of putting it on a thumbdrive and sending it by courier or whatever, that way they could check the box that they had turned over any evidence . |
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         Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2021-11-18 12:43 PM
Bear - 2021-11-18 1:33 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-18 11:36 AM
The Judge bans MSNBC from the CourtHouse  
I just saw that. The bastards were supposedly following the bus and trying to take photos of the jurors. The judge canceled them. Banned from being in the courthouse. Good for him. Seems to me this is part of an effort at jury intimidation. Between the mob outside, the media (CNN and MSNBC), and now this stunt, I can't help but think this is playing into the jury's deliberations. Obviously, an acquittal means more of Kenosha burns. These are citizens of Kenosha. BLM and Antifa are having their way. I'd be very surprised to see Kyle acquitted. I'd love to see the judge rule a mistrial with prejudice if he is declared guilty of anything.
The Judge can set aside a verdict.
He has already intimated that if found guilty he will drop the perverbial hammer on the Prosectuion team.
Brady comes into play over the video issue
He removed MSNBC from Court Room after NBC reporter was jailed for photographing jury
Very little chance at this point that justice is served via jury.
Also a note, I was a little surprised that there was no directed verdict after the prosecution rested their case.
What do you mean by "Brady"? I'm missing something. That jury should have been sequestered. It sounds like they weren't. That mob should have been kept at least 2 blocks away from the courthouse. Hell, they have 500 national guard troops there already. They could have done that. I'm not sure a change of venue would have mattered. Half of the mob are professional sh!t stirrers. I hope the temp drops and they have a blizzard there whenever the verdict is announced. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | this antiquated un user friendly format won't let me post what I'm trying to post but look up Brady v. Maryland AKA Brady Rule |
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         Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2021-11-18 7:08 PM
this antiquated un user friendly format won't let me post what I'm trying to post but look up
Brady v. Maryland AKA Brady Rule
Ahhhhh....got it. Thanks. So the prosecution gave the defense drone videos of Rosenbaum chasing Kyle across the parking lot, after yelling "I'm going to f-ing kill you", and when Kyle was cornered by the cars and the pedo was about to lunge toward him, that's when Kyle greased him. The video the defense had was obviously very poor resolution, compared to the better quality video the prosecution had. The defense maintains that better quality video was exculpatory evidence.
Also, I read that the prosecution knew the identity of the guy who jump-kicked Kyle in the head, but they did not reveal his identity in court, yet one of the charges against Kyle was that he recklessly endangered the attacker by firing at him twice (and missed). Supposedly, the kicking guy fired a handgun at Kyle as well before kicking at him. The defense could not call upon the kicker because the prosecution claimed they didn't know his identity. Did I understand that correctly?
Seems to me the judge has ample justification to declare a mistrial "with prejudice". If the state then wants to re-try Kyle, that would set the bar for conviction much higher. I'm hoping the judge is holding that card in his back pocket, with the hope that he won't have to use it if he is acquitted by the jury....which doesn't seem highly likely to me. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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            Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | run n rate - 2021-11-18 5:57 PM
Anyone see the peice on when the prosecution texted the drone footage to the defense knowing that when you text it it compresses it and the result is video so poor that you cAnnot make heads nor tails of it???? You know, instead of putting it on a thumbdrive and sending it by courier or whatever, that way they could check the box that they had turned over any evidence .
yes I did, I like to watch newsmax to catch up on whats happening and saw that today.. |
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          Location: Texas | Jury reached a verdict: NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!! |
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         Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm elated and pleasantly surprised. |
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            Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Fun2Run - 2021-11-19 12:22 PM
Jury reached a verdict: NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!
I just saw this!!!!!!!!! That young man was found NOT GUILTY Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited for him and his mother/family, I bet they feel so relieved... I just want to hug him and tell him we were holding our breath right along with him..  |
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    Location: Randolph, Utah | Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-19 11:42 AM
Fun2Run - 2021-11-19 12:22 PM
Jury reached a verdict: NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!
I just saw this!!!!!!!!! That young man was found NOT GUILTY Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited for him and his mother/family, I bet they feel so relieved... I just want to hug him and tell him we were holding our breath right along with him.. 
I am so thrilled! I was nervous how the jury would find or they'd be a hung jury!
I hope he can move on with his life and this won't hang over his head forever |
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| I find myself reading comments on some Facebook posts. I'd say close to 90% of them are celebrating the verdict. There are a few griping about it and saying we will all be sorry when he goes on a shoot em up rampage because he's basically a terrorist that got away with murder. Unbelievable how some of those people are wired. I'm very relieved for him and really for all of us! This is a good win for the PEOPLE and of course Kyle first and foremost. So now.... what were they trying to distract our attention from? |
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| want2chase3 - 2021-11-19 2:32 PM
I find myself reading comments on some Facebook posts. I'd say close to 90% of them are celebrating the verdict. There are a few griping about it and saying we will all be sorry when he goes on a shoot em up rampage because he's basically a terrorist that got away with murder. Unbelievable how some of those people are wired. I'm very relieved for him and really for all of us! This is a good win for the PEOPLE and of course Kyle first and foremost. So now.... what were they trying to distract our attention from?
Someone just posted that Ghislane Maxwell - Epstein's girlfriend is on trial right now too. |
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| Whoop... there it is... I saw the post "white privilege" and now it begins ..... smh |
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            Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | JcNhEmI - 2021-11-19 1:32 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-19 11:42 AM
Fun2Run - 2021-11-19 12:22 PM
Jury reached a verdict: NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!
I just saw this!!!!!!!!! That young man was found NOT GUILTY Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited for him and his mother/family, I bet they feel so relieved... I just want to hug him and tell him we were holding our breath right along with him.. 
I am so thrilled! I was nervous how the jury would find or they'd be a hung jury!
I hope he can move on with his life and this won't hang over his head forever
This helped me to beable to have faith in our system once again and that there is still good people out there that are willing to fight for what is right and not worry about if this will cause hurt feelings/tick the other side off for doing what is right.. Shame on Joe Biden for calling this boy a white supremacist for defending himself, if he didnt defend himself he would have been killed by these criminals/thugs and they would have gotton away with murder scott free.. |
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | JcNhEmI - 2021-11-19 1:32 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-11-19 11:42 AM
Fun2Run - 2021-11-19 12:22 PM
Jury reached a verdict: NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!
I just saw this!!!!!!!!! That young man was found NOT GUILTY Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited for him and his mother/family, I bet they feel so relieved... I just want to hug him and tell him we were holding our breath right along with him.. 
I am so thrilled! I was nervous how the jury would find or they'd be a hung jury!
I hope he can move on with his life and this won't hang over his head forever
I hope he sues the pants off the media that lied about him and gets rich! |
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| Some things to think about... & the media didn't tell the whole story. I didn't know that Kyle put out a dumpster fire that was being rolled down to a gas station to blow up, with people all around. I didn't know that the Police were told to stand down as businesses were destroyed. I didn't know that Kyles Dad, Grandma and Friends all lived in Kenosha, 20 minutes from where he resided with his Mom part time in Illinois. I didn't know that Joseph Rosenbaum knocked him down twice and then attempted to kick him with lethal force to the head. I didn't know that Huber had hit him in the head 2x with a skateboard. I didn't know Gaige Grosskreutz, a felon in possession of firearm, aimed his gun at Kyle first, as he admitted on the stand. I also didn't know that in the State of Wisconsin, it is legal for Kyle to have a gun, even at 17 (which was why the gun charge was dismissed). I didn't know that Kyle did not cross state lines with a gun he wasn't supposed to have. The rightful gun owner did, as he was legally permitted to do. I didn't realize that Rosenbaum was a 5 time convicted child rapist. I didn't realize that Huber was a 2 time convicted woman beater. I didn't realize that Grosskreutz was a convicted Burglar with an assault on his record. IF THE MEDIA DID THEIR JOB... we would have known ALL of this! Time more people stood up for what is right and the judicial system would do its job. |
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| I wasn't following this just listening to people at work talk who were following it that must have been watching CNN and MSNBC. I had this kid in my mind as a white supremicist committing a hate crime and had a bias judge and so forth. Then I decided to see for myself what was going on. I hope Kyle sues all those media sources including all the politicians and celebs. Good for the jurors for not being bullied.
Edited by Ricki 2021-11-20 7:17 AM
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