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When does gastroguard lose their patent!?!

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2022-08-02 2:12 PM
Subject: When does gastroguard lose their patent!?!



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Good lord, have to treat a mare for ulcers and do the full 28 days of gastroguard . First born child worthy on this one . Would be nice if there was a real generic  

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CanCan
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Posted 2022-08-02 2:21 PM
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Have your vet order the compound from NexGen. 100 doses for $150. Yes, it works.

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CanCan
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I am currently using NexGen omeprazile and NexGen pergalide.

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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2022-08-02 2:56 PM
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I about died when the vet quoted me what gastrogaurd was going to cost. I'm glad I scoped instead of just doing the treatment. 

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2022-08-02 4:07 PM
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15-20 years is the max, but they can adjust something and reapply for a new if they want. I just did a full 30 day of generic omeprazole powder, was $85 and scope was clear. So generic worked just fine for me. I've gotten it compounded with sucralfate as well, $22 a tube with 3 doses per tube and it's done just as well. I'd never buy the real thing again. Ulcerguard is also the same thing, you just have to give the whole tube. But it bypasses the need for the Rx if you want to still go with their "brand" 

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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2022-08-02 4:10 PM
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There's $128 rebate on 28 tubes of Gastrogard. Rebate applies to anything purchased from April 16- July 31. 
deadline to apply for rebate is August 31. 

WWW.boehringeringelheimequinerebates.com

 



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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2022-08-02 7:26 PM
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Read an article today from a vet at the racetrack. A comprehensive study showed that HALF tube of ulcerguard was just as effective as full tube . Really wish I had read that sooner  

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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2022-08-03 7:47 AM
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CanCan - 2022-08-02 2:21 PM


Have your vet order the compound from NexGen. 100 doses for $150. Yes, it works.


YUP!

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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2022-08-03 10:12 AM
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https://abler.com/abprazole

 

Paste is $11/day. I have used it on 2 different horses and scoped before and after treatment. It worked on both. 

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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2022-08-03 12:34 PM
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JLazyT_perf_horses - 2022-08-02 5:07 PM


15-20 years is the max, but they can adjust something and reapply for a new if they want. I just did a full 30 day of generic omeprazole powder, was $85 and scope was clear. So generic worked just fine for me. I've gotten it compounded with sucralfate as well, $22 a tube with 3 doses per tube and it's done just as well. I'd never buy the real thing again. Ulcerguard is also the same thing, you just have to give the whole tube. But it bypasses the need for the Rx if you want to still go with their "brand" 


Where are you getting the generic?

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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2022-08-03 12:57 PM
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There is no generic form of Gastrogard. There is compunded omeperazole. Omeperazole loses a lot of its efficacy once it's wet. The compunded stuff is cheap but doesn't necessarily work.

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CanCan
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Posted 2022-08-03 1:25 PM
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Liana D - 2022-08-03 12:57 PM


There is no generic form of Gastrogard. There is compunded omeperazole. Omeperazole loses a lot of its efficacy once it's wet. The compunded stuff is cheap but doesn't necessarily work.


It works.

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2022-08-04 1:59 PM
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JLazyT_perf_horses - 2022-08-02 5:07 PM


15-20 years is the max, but they can adjust something and reapply for a new if they want. I just did a full 30 day of generic omeprazole powder, was $85 and scope was clear. So generic worked just fine for me. I've gotten it compounded with sucralfate as well, $22 a tube with 3 doses per tube and it's done just as well. I'd never buy the real thing again. Ulcerguard is also the same thing, you just have to give the whole tube. But it bypasses the need for the Rx if you want to still go with their "brand" 



Where are you getting the generic?


I forget the name & threw the tub away, but it was a pharmacy in one of the carolinas. My vet was ordering something for one of hers and just shipped mine with it. But a lot of the pharmacies have it though for around $100. Paste or powder. I know farmvet does, nexgen has it. You just have to have a vet willing to write the Rx 

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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2022-08-07 11:43 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2022-08-01 8:26 PM


Read an article today from a vet at the racetrack. A comprehensive study showed that HALF tube of ulcerguard was just as effective as full tube . Really wish I had read that sooner  


Yes!!!  

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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2022-08-07 1:45 PM
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CJE - 2022-08-07 12:43 PM


FLITASTIC - 2022-08-01 8:26 PM


Read an article today from a vet at the racetrack. A comprehensive study showed that HALF tube of ulcerguard was just as effective as full tube . Really wish I had read that sooner  



Yes!!!  


 

 

Years and years ago I had a horse sand colic bad. When we finally got the sand pushed through and the horse stabilized I had to do a 30 day treatment for ulcers. My vet had me do 5 full tubes (5 days), 5 half tubes (10 days), and then 1/4 tube for 18 days. Total tubes = 12. Much less $$'s! The horse came back better than ever and is still doing great at 22.

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2022-08-07 2:19 PM
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lonely va barrelxr - 2022-08-07 11:45 AM


CJE - 2022-08-07 12:43 PM


FLITASTIC - 2022-08-01 8:26 PM


Read an article today from a vet at the racetrack. A comprehensive study showed that HALF tube of ulcerguard was just as effective as full tube . Really wish I had read that sooner  



Yes!!!  



 


 


Years and years ago I had a horse sand colic bad. When we finally got the sand pushed through and the horse stabilized I had to do a 30 day treatment for ulcers. My vet had me do 5 full tubes (5 days), 5 half tubes (10 days), and then 1/4 tube for 18 days. Total tubes = 12. Much less $$'s! The horse came back better than ever and is still doing great at 22.


Thanks !!! I will try that protocol!! Not even going to run it

by my vet because she is totally by the book! I already have the 28 tubes and can't take them back so I will have lots of extras to use in the future  

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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2022-08-08 12:26 PM
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I have seen best results and have recommended Gastro Buf from Stance Equine. I did some test and development work on this, but do not sell or profit from it if you buy it. NO omeprasole, easy on the system, and works on hind gut also. 

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Stride
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2022-08-09 7:45 PM
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I use Nexgen for omeprazole/cimetidine. I just paid $96 shipped for 120 scoops, which is 2 full treatments. I've scoped after using it, so I know it works. I definitely recommend it. 

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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2022-08-10 9:36 PM
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I'm not saying that none of the compunded products work all of the time. They are unreliable and unpredictable, usually good at helping with gastritis, not necessarily ulcers. 

As far as Ulcergard getting cheaper when it's off patent, not likely, as it's the delivery system that gets it to the  right spot that makes the difference. It's not as simple as dumping Omep in the stomach. 

Adequan is a good example of a product being off patent, yet no one can duplicate it ( or wants to because of the expense). There are products that are very close, but not the same molecular structure. 

There are usually 15-20 head young horses here that I get to watch what products work and which ones don't. 

if anyone thinks I'm trying to sell Ulcergard, I don't work for any animal health manufacturers. 

Please watch the video and listen closely ant around the 5:18 mark . 

https://youtu.be/6oRSYxLVjCQ



Edited by Liana D 2022-08-10 9:37 PM
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