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| The stage is set for THE AMERICAN to become the largest, richest one-day rodeo in the history of the sport. Each one of these world-class athletes will compete for their share of the largest single day payout in the history of the sport….$2,000,000. Be a part of history as the Top 10 contestants in the world from each event battle it out…but wait a minute we are not done… Anyone else out there that thinks they are better than the world's best gets their shot at part of $2,000,000. There will be five qualifiers sanctioned by the Professional Bull Riders, Pro Roughstock Series, United States Team Roping Championships, Better Barrel Racers and the Ultimate Calf Roping for each event around the country for those that want their chance to beat the world's best on March 2, 2014. Out of that $2,000,000, each event will pay $100,000 for first and $25,000 for second. Then there will be a $1,000,000 "side pot" set aside for the qualifiers. If a qualifier can beat all the best and win his/her event, then he/she is entitled to that $1,000,000. RFD-TV and these sanctioning bodies are looking to revolutionize the sport of rodeo for the better. There are many rodeo events that are great attractions for fans; however, there has yet to be that "one-day rodeo" that has been able to pay out this sum of money. THE AMERICAN will open the door to a competition much like golf and tennis, where mediocrity will not be welcome for the price of victory. Every sport needs a large impact moment, and this will be that defining day for the best rodeo athletes in the world. So……. BUCKLE UP… |
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Location: Texas | Kaycee - 2013-08-22 5:24 PM Where will it take place?
There are 5 qualifiers around the nation, semi finals is the week before the finals in Mesquite, tx and finals are in Arlington, Tx! |
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| sodapop - 2013-08-22 6:21 PM
So was this RD-TV's big announcement?
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other? |
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| RD-TV is talking about it now. They are discussing all the rules and plans.
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Location: PNW | missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM
I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other?
They get a PIECE of the other 1,000,000. There's 2,000,000 total to be had. The first million gets point between the winners from the Top Ten pot, the other million gets split between the Qualifier pot winners. |
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| They just said men can compete in the barrel race since BBR is doing the barrel racing qualifiers. |
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| sodapop - 2013-08-22 7:42 PM
What association will be holding the sidepot qualifiers for steer wrestling?
They just said there is no sanctioning body for steer wrestling so they will have to produce the steer wrestling qualifying events themselves. |
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| So will the top 10 NFR bull riders get to automatically qualify since the PBR is involved? It sounded like the top ten PBR automatically qualify. So I am confused. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | This is so cool!!! Can you imagine making a run in Cowboy Stadium!!! Wish I would be that caliber rider to qualify for something like that!
Hats off to them for trying to bring some live and money back into rodeo! |
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| I was very excited to see this. It's awesome that EVERYONE can qualify. Since there are great riders and competitors that just cannot travel all year to make the NFR. And now they have a chance at a huge opportunity such as this. :) |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | svincent - 2013-08-22 8:58 PM missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other? They get a PIECE of the other 1,000,000. There's 2,000,000 total to be had. The first million gets point between the winners from the Top Ten pot, the other million gets split between the Qualifier pot winners.
Per the announcement on RFDTV, if a qualifier wins their event, they get a total of 1.1 million dollars. That was said several times. |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-22 8:53 PM svincent - 2013-08-22 8:58 PM missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other? They get a PIECE of the other 1,000,000. There's 2,000,000 total to be had. The first million gets point between the winners from the Top Ten pot, the other million gets split between the Qualifier pot winners.
That is how I understood the announcement too. They are going to draw a lot of entries @ $500 each in the qualifying rounds to go towards that $1,000,000. |
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| Fast Facts http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/rfdtv/the-american/the-american-fast-facts.pdf
Complete rules http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/rfdtv/the-american/completerules.pdf
Media Kit http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/rfdtv/the-american/PressKitsmall.pdf
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| Is this the first rodeo ever that they are letting the guys compete in barrels as well? I saw that Men or Women can qualify. Can't wait to see all of this come about. |
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| TargetTime - 2013-08-22 10:09 PM Is this the first rodeo ever that they are letting the guys compete in barrels as well? I saw that Men or Women can qualify. Can't wait to see all of this come about.
Many open rodeos allow men to compete. This is the first at a rodeo this level for this money. The men will have to qualify through the BBR qualifiers. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2013-08-22 9:09 PM missroselee - 2013-08-22 8:53 PM svincent - 2013-08-22 8:58 PM missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other? They get a PIECE of the other 1,000,000. There's 2,000,000 total to be had. The first million gets point between the winners from the Top Ten pot, the other million gets split between the Qualifier pot winners.
So if a top ten person wins it they don't get the 1 million? only the 100 thousand? That is strange and what if someone in the top ten doesn't want to compete? Or declines because of the 1 million to 100 thousand difference? |
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| TyE - 2013-08-22 10:34 PM rodeomom3 - 2013-08-22 9:09 PM missroselee - 2013-08-22 8:53 PM svincent - 2013-08-22 8:58 PM missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other? They get a PIECE of the other 1,000,000. There's 2,000,000 total to be had. The first million gets point between the winners from the Top Ten pot, the other million gets split between the Qualifier pot winners.
I didn't pay attention to the payout, but the top ten from the NFR have the option to decline. They will just move down the list they said. |
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| sodapop - 2013-08-22 10:11 PM
TargetTime - 2013-08-22 10:09 PM Is this the first rodeo ever that they are letting the guys compete in barrels as well? I saw that Men or Women can qualify. Can't wait to see all of this come about.
Many open rodeos allow men to compete. This is the first at a rodeo this level for this money. The men will have to qualify through the BBR qualifiers.
my bad... I did not realize they allowed men to compete in open rodeo barrel racing. I have never seen that. |
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| TargetTime - 2013-08-22 10:44 PM sodapop - 2013-08-22 10:11 PM TargetTime - 2013-08-22 10:09 PM Is this the first rodeo ever that they are letting the guys compete in barrels as well? I saw that Men or Women can qualify. Can't wait to see all of this come about. Many open rodeos allow men to compete. This is the first at a rodeo this level for this money. The men will have to qualify through the BBR qualifiers. my bad... I did not realize they allowed men to compete in open rodeo barrel racing. I have never seen that.
Not all open rodeos do allow men to compete............ all depends on the individual stock contractor putting on the open rodeo. |
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Location: SE Missouri | sodapop - 2013-08-22 10:46 PM
TargetTime - 2013-08-22 10:44 PM sodapop - 2013-08-22 10:11 PM TargetTime - 2013-08-22 10:09 PM Is this the first rodeo ever that they are letting the guys compete in barrels as well? I saw that Men or Women can qualify. Can't wait to see all of this come about. Many open rodeos allow men to compete. This is the first at a rodeo this level for this money. The men will have to qualify through the BBR qualifiers. my bad... I did not realize they allowed men to compete in open rodeo barrel racing. I have never seen that.
They don't around here either.. I'd guess the majority of open rodeos don't have men competitors.
Am i the only one that feels like its a rodeo for everything except the barrels and its a barrel race... I was talking to a friend and we both scratched our head a little on that part.. I think it's going to very interesting and will be following! |
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Location: Kansas | I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. |
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Location: Texas | I think that you will see a lot more futurity riders try to qualify for this. I am super excited about it, and can't wait to get my tickets! |
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Location: Kansas | HOLY SMOKES....I wish I had a few good horses for something like this. Unfortunately just a yellow, bay and grey turd sitting in my pasture |
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Location: Kansas | tracies - 2013-08-23 8:37 AM I think that you will see a lot more futurity riders try to qualify for this. I am super excited about it, and can't wait to get my tickets!
That's what I think it will be too - the slot race crew that has the money for those type of entry fees. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Did you also hear about the "exceptions"? Something like they will "invite" certain barrel racers/competitors if they don't qualify? They mentioned Charmayne James could get an invite where she has such a huge fan base. They said...this rodeo is for the "fans" and they want to make sure they have competitors that the fans want to watch? I was confused on that too! |
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Location: Texas | Speaking from spectators point of view, I am really excited to see the BEST competitors in this rodeo, not just the best members of the WPRA and PRCA. I don't really care how they qualify them, or if they invite them, as long as I get my money's worth. I want to see the best barrel racing I have ever seen. I'm a fan, and follow the futurity trainers, but rarely get to see them compete, so to see them compete against the best of the WPRA would be a dream. I also want to see the BEST BARREL HORSES compete here. I would love to go to the semi finals in Mesquite, then to the finals in Arlington. (Don't know if I will get to go to Mesquite, but I definitely will try)
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Location: Deep South | Despite all the "logistics" of it, the rules, the specifics of the payout, whatever, they have me hooked!!! I will be watching!!! |
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Location: North Dakota | Since men will get a chance to qualify in the barrels will women get a chance in the other events? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | angelica - 2013-08-23 10:47 AM Since men will get a chance to qualify in the barrels will women get a chance in the other events?
I believe they go by the rules of whoever sanctions the particular event. BBR does the barrels and their rules allow men, PBR does the bulls and I highly doubt they allow women. You have to check the rules of those who "host" the other events. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | tracies - 2013-08-23 9:17 AM Speaking from spectators point of view, I am really excited to see the BEST competitors in this rodeo, not just the best members of the WPRA and PRCA. I don't really care how they qualify them, or if they invite them, as long as I get my money's worth. I want to see the best barrel racing I have ever seen. I'm a fan, and follow the futurity trainers, but rarely get to see them compete, so to see them compete against the best of the WPRA would be a dream. I also want to see the BEST BARREL HORSES compete here. I would love to go to the semi finals in Mesquite, then to the finals in Arlington. (Don't know if I will get to go to Mesquite, but I definitely will try ) I really used to think that I would love to have the NFR come to Cowboys Stadium, but this is SO MUCH BETTER!
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500.
I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so. |
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Location: West Tennessee | missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other?
I think the 1 million set aside for the side pot -- will be split between events. So, if qualifiers when in all 5 events over the 'sanctioned' riders / it would be a $200,000.00 bonus payout type of thing. If no qualifiers wing -- I suppose the event gets to keep those funds?
This is interesting? Also makes me wonder what ever happened to the East/West qualifier thing from a few years ago? Anyone remember what I'm talking about -- it had a youth & open, riders had to qualify for teams. |
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Location: Kansas | TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
It just scares me to plunk down that sort of cash for one run. I about croaked last year when friends talked me into entering a slot race sidepot for $100 entry fee! The entry fee is definitely going to weed out a lot of people. |
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| dme0324 - 2013-08-23 11:38 AM
missroselee - 2013-08-22 7:20 PM I'm trying to figure out how a top ten winner only gets 100k but a qualifier gets 1.1 million? That's just a HUGE difference. Both parties earned it, but why should one get so much more then the other?
I think the 1 million set aside for the side pot -- will be split between events. So, if qualifiers when in all 5 events over the 'sanctioned' riders / it would be a $200,000.00 bonus payout type of thing. If no qualifiers wing -- I suppose the event gets to keep those funds?
This is interesting? Also makes me wonder what ever happened to the East/West qualifier thing from a few years ago? Anyone remember what I'm talking about -- it had a youth & open, riders had to qualify for teams.
Oh yea, completely forgot about that east vs west barrel race. Never heard anymore about it after the got the teams together. Dont know who won or if they are continuing to have the race.... |
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Location: ND | i think this is going to be a good event for the sport of rodeo....fans and competitors.....hope it makes it.....and hope someone from the qualifiers wins a million.... |
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Location: ND | TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:06 AM tracies - 2013-08-23 9:17 AM Speaking from spectators point of view, I am really excited to see the BEST competitors in this rodeo, not just the best members of the WPRA and PRCA. I don't really care how they qualify them, or if they invite them, as long as I get my money's worth. I want to see the best barrel racing I have ever seen. I'm a fan, and follow the futurity trainers, but rarely get to see them compete, so to see them compete against the best of the WPRA would be a dream. I also want to see the BEST BARREL HORSES compete here. I would love to go to the semi finals in Mesquite, then to the finals in Arlington. (Don't know if I will get to go to Mesquite, but I definitely will try ) I really used to think that I would love to have the NFR come to Cowboys Stadium, but this is SO MUCH BETTER!
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Location: Beggs, OK | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 11:58 AM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
The people who have a horse capable and the will to win will figure out how to get there and not think twice about the entry fee. Futurity fees are usually much more than that.
The NCHA Futurity is $2,635 to enter this year.
I had another thought after I hit submit.... This is about RODEO...not a jackpot so that you can draw a thousand people who want to participate just so that they can say that they did. This is about putting your money up and proving who is the BEST...not just who fell in the right division. Fantastic idea that will be great for our sport. Mercy please don't let anyone try and turn it into a divisional race.
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Location: ND | Mainer-racer - 2013-08-23 8:49 AM Did you also hear about the "exceptions"? Something like they will "invite" certain barrel racers/competitors if they don't qualify? They mentioned Charmayne James could get an invite where she has such a huge fan base. They said...this rodeo is for the "fans" and they want to make sure they have competitors that the fans want to watch? I was confused on that too!
if they want to make it an event that attracts fans and sponsors, they have to provide what the fans want......rodeo is a sport like any other .....without fans and sponsors willing to spend big money, all you have left is a little event with a limited demographic of fans and sponsors.......which sounds like..... |
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Location: Oklahoma | Mainer-racer - 2013-08-23 8:49 AM Did you also hear about the "exceptions"? Something like they will "invite" certain barrel racers/competitors if they don't qualify? They mentioned Charmayne James could get an invite where she has such a huge fan base. They said...this rodeo is for the "fans" and they want to make sure they have competitors that the fans want to watch? I was confused on that too!
The way I read it the current BBR World Champion will get an automatic bid to the Semi-Finals as one of the "exceptions". |
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Location: Deep South | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 11:58 AM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
I think it will only weed out the ones they intended to in the first place. This event is wanting to draw in THE BEST horses and riders in the country. The ones who are truly at the top of their game. The teams that can compete at that level won't blink an eye at that entry fee for the chance to compete at that kind of money. The WPRA slot race had $1500 entry fees and wasn't paying back nearly this much money. Futurities are a much bigger more expensive risk than this rodeo and plenty of people run them. I think they needed to set it high enough to know who was serious enough about it, so not just anyone would enter. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
So this will be sanctioned with the PRCA/WPRA to count money won towards the NFR? |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2013-08-23 2:57 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 11:58 AM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so. I think it will only weed out the ones they intended to in the first place. This event is wanting to draw in THE BEST horses and riders in the country. The ones who are truly at the top of their game. The teams that can compete at that level won't blink an eye at that entry fee for the chance to compete at that kind of money. The WPRA slot race had $1500 entry fees and wasn't paying back nearly this much money. Futurities are a much bigger more expensive risk than this rodeo and plenty of people run them. I think they needed to set it high enough to know who was serious enough about it, so not just anyone would enter.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-08-23 3:11 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | rachellyn80 - 2013-08-23 2:05 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 11:58 AM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
The NCHA Futurity is $2,635 to enter this year. I had another thought after I hit submit.... This is about RODEO...not a jackpot so that you can draw a thousand people who want to participate just so that they can say that they did. This is about putting your money up and proving who is the BEST...not just who fell in the right division. Fantastic idea that will be great for our sport. Mercy please don't let anyone try and turn it into a divisional race.
I agree 150%. Im excited to see the knife fight that this turns those 5 qualifier races in to! People that could never dream of making the NFR- yet have that one special horse- have a chance. Even the men have a chance. I like the whole idea of events. I plan to be there to watch!! |
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| rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM
I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500.
A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level.
What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit! |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch. |
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| TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM
I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch.
This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited.
What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though! |
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| rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 7:20 AM
I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500.
Honestly I don't think there intent was for "normal" people to come. They want the best of the best!! And $500 is nothing if you have ever entered a futurity!! Between entries, stalls, side pots etc, $500 is a normal weekend.
$500 entries will just weed out the people who are not serious...
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| rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500.
If I thought I could win it, I'd scrape up the cash and go for it. I would take out a personal loan, borrow from family/friends, put it on a credit card, whatever it took if I was confident I had a chance to win.
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| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-08-23 3:11 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 11:09 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 8:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. I guess you could look at it like an oppurtunity to win HUGE $$$ and not haul like the rodeo girls do? $500 once beats all the rodeos, miles, ect week after week to make the finals of an event of this magnitude. It will certainly eliminate those who dont think they can win or risk the fees to do so.
No this will not be counting toward the NFR as far as I can tell. It is not a WPRA/PRCA sanctioned event. The top 10 from the WPRA/PRCA will be automatically qualified to compete if they wish. If they decline, then they will move down the list to the next person. They are just using it as a draw for the best of all possible sanctioning associations........ Those from the WPRA/PRCA, PBR, BBR, USTRC, Calf roping whatever association......the roughstock association, & then whatever they do for the steer wrestling since they have no other association.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:50 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch. This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited. What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though!
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| The entry fees have to be big to help cushion that kind of payout. Also, it will keep the number of contestants down somewhat so the qualifier events won't go on for days and days. If it was a cheap fee, can you imagine how long it would take to get through a qualifier barrel race? LOL
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| They also said the only events with an age limit were the roughstock events with a minimum of age 18. I guess someone under the age of 18 could qualify in the other events as long as the original sanctioning organization allows minors to compete. There could be some kids in this deal too. |
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| 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:50 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch. This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited. What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though!
I think those top futurity & 4D trainers and riders will bring the horse who can handle anything. They are business people. They know how to win. They often train horses who transition easily into the rodeo atmosphere. I think those trainers will be thrilled with this opportunity. On RFD-TV, Robin from the BBR called in and said Lance Graves, Talmadge Green, and I can't remember who else already told her they couldn't wait to run at one of the qualifiers. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event....... not a winner take all 1 million. Since there is only 2 million or so to be had...... how can one event pay 1 million? Like I said I didn't look it over that well.
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
The way I understood it when I was watching the announcement was that there was 1 million dollars to pay out to the top ten, to be split. First place getting 100k.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet. |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:53 PM sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet.
I heard Ty say that but I was thinking that was just kind of horse trader talk. He also says Worldzz Championship too and that doesn't sound right either. LOL
Here it says they would put themselves in the pot for a share of the 1 million.
http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/rfdtv/the-american/completerules.pdf |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:53 PM sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet.
That is what I heard too but I went back and read the rules and it saids if a qualifier wins they will also win their "share of the other $1 million plus the $100k for first place. I think if only one qualifier wins he/she will get the whole thing- 2 win each get $500K, etc.
Boy, adds another element for making the top ten at the NFR.
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| rodeomom3 - 2013-08-23 7:58 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:53 PM sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet.
Boy, adds another element for making the top ten at the NFR.
That's the way I understand it too. Like I just posted it is kind of horse trader talk or just including all the possibilities to make it sound more interesting. |
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| The top 10 world contestants in each of the seven events – bareback riding, bronc riding, team roping, tie-down roping, barrel racing, steer wrestling and bull riding – will have a chance to claim a first-place prize of $100,000. If one of the competitors who advanced from any of the five qualifiers and then a semifinal held Feb. 21-23 at Mesquite Resistol Arena win their event at The American, then he or she will have a chance to claim as much as $1 million. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2013-08-23 8:01 PM The top 10 world contestants in each of the seven events – bareback riding, bronc riding, team roping, tie-down roping, barrel racing, steer wrestling and bull riding – will have a chance to claim a first-place prize of $100,000. If one of the competitors who advanced from any of the five qualifiers and then a semifinal held Feb. 21-23 at Mesquite Resistol Arena win their event at The American, then he or she will have a chance to claim as much as $1 million.
I'm assuming that means all the money possible including the semi finals and The American.... since this is a 2 million dollar rodeo........ Otherwise it would be a 7 million dollar rodeo for 7 events......... right? |
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| I take it to mean $2 million payout for the one day rodeo. They are billing it as the richest one day rodeo. I guess if no qualifier wins then producers keep the $1 million. I don't have a clue how the qualifying rounds pay, they may not pay anything. |
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Location: Texas | dhdqhllc - 2013-08-23 2:07 PM
Mainer-racer - 2013-08-23 8:49 AM Did you also hear about the "exceptions"? Something like they will "invite" certain barrel racers/competitors if they don't qualify? They mentioned Charmayne James could get an invite where she has such a huge fan base. They said...this rodeo is for the "fans" and they want to make sure they have competitors that the fans want to watch? I was confused on that too!
It will be very interesting to see how the finals play out and how they plan to fill the stadium. Big rodeo names are big in RODEO but don't extend much farther. I'm sure they'll take a nod from Houston since it can fill Reliant for 3 straight weeks. |
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Location: Texas | I don't know how much the tickets will be, but I think they will be in the range of $50-$80. So let's do some math:
75,000 seats x $50= $3,750,000.
75,000 seats x $80 =$6,000,000.
So a $2M purse, or even $2M added, is not a problem!
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Location: Kansas | 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
No wonder I stick to amatuer rodeos. I'm not enough of a high roller! $66 is about the highest entry fees I pay at the ammy stuff which granted doesn't usually have anywhere near $2000 added but still its a huge difference.
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot. 
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd. |
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Location: Checotah OK | If you have a good horse - it's worth the gamble! $500 is not high for everywhere it could get you....and what you could win - I don't think you can really compare it to any other event in the country, nor find a chance to compete for something like this for $500 (it's really 3 events for that fee) ..if you qualify.
Very exciting and glad to be producing the Barrel Bash (LINCOLN NE) that is a part of it!
Brings me back to one of my favorite quotes....If you are interested, you'll do what's convenient, if you're committed you'll do whatever it takes!
BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE - GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING!
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million
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Location: CO | tracies - 2013-08-24 6:58 AM I don't know how much the tickets will be, but I think they will be in the range of $50-$80. So let's do some math: 75,000 seats x $50= $3,750,000. 75,000 seats x $80 =$6,000,000. So a $2M purse, or even $2M added, is not a problem!
Let's not forget, that in addition to prize money, there will be stadium rent in Arlington, arena rent in Mesquite, utilities, staffing, advertsiing, insurance etc - and I can't even begin to imagine the total sum of these. Good chance the powers that be are prepared to either loose money or break even on this first event. Then next year, they take their numbers, demographics, stats, etc - and sponsors will come out of the woodwork. Who knows what we will see for next year. Either way, hats off to RFD-TV for thinking out of the box - I don't know who chose the locations for the quilifying events, but I do like that the barrel racing is pretty evenly distributed through-out the US - take a look at the bull riding - every qualifying event is out west, with the exception of one in TX. |
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Location: Deep South | sodapop - 2013-08-23 7:30 PM
3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:50 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch. This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited. What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though!
This is why I'm so excited!!! Hopefully we get to see these guys competing against the top 10 WPRA girls. The best of BOTH worlds. |
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Location: Deep South | sodapop - 2013-08-23 7:30 PM
3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:50 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch. This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited. What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though!
This is why I'm so excited!!! Hopefully we get to see these guys competing against the top 10 WPRA girls. The best of BOTH worlds. |
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Location: Oregon | missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them.
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Location: ND | crapshooter - 2013-08-24 7:26 PM missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them.
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Location: MD | dhdqhllc - 2013-08-24 8:06 PM
crapshooter - 2013-08-24 7:26 PM missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in.
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| NJJ - 2013-08-24 9:52 PM CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in.
Can't they qualify like everybody else or do they have to belong to the PBR to enter?
So the NFR top ten bull riders won't qualify automatically? I just figured they would and the PBR would have their own qualifiers, but I didn't read over the bull riding. Is it the top ten PBR that get in automatically? |
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Location: Texas | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-24 12:05 PM 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot.
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd.
I think if you're gonna pay your first big entry fee somewhere, this would be a good time to do it! An opportunity like this could put you on a whole different playing field. I say even if you have to sell some stuff to justify that $500 it's worth a shot, especially since you already know that qualifier pen and know the rodeo atmosphere! |
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Location: Texas | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-24 12:05 PM 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot.
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd.
I think if you're gonna pay your first big entry fee somewhere, this would be a good time to do it! An opportunity like this could put you on a whole different playing field. I say even if you have to sell some stuff to justify that $500 it's worth a shot, especially since you already know that qualifier pen and know the rodeo atmosphere! |
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Location: Texas | WrapSnap - 2013-08-24 8:12 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-08-24 8:06 PM crapshooter - 2013-08-24 7:26 PM missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them. true story!
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| There may be a one off type of situation where a little known name would win. But there's a bunch of folks that may have run pro in the past and not hauling now, or ones that haul only locally that can hang with the top 10. It's just that they don't have either the time, money or support to be on the rodeo road all the time. It's one of those that I see maybe stepping up to grab this...and Mark Bugni is another male jockey/trainer that's worth watching. He's won a lot for owners/slot holders this past year. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over.
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| Calangelo - 2013-08-25 12:05 PM I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over. I wonder as well. It's even called the "AT&T Stadium" now..........another way to make some cash for ole Jerry. On RFD-TV when they had their round table type discussion & call-ins Stephen Jones (Jerry's son) called in to speak. The head of the PBR said they were working out something to make a "deal" on tickets and parking. He said something about the cheapest tickets being around $20 which will probably be lawnchairs on the very tip top. After all of the sponsors get their free tickets and then people buy them online, I will be anxious to see at what price everyone will scalp them........... because unless you buy them through the venue, you are buying a scalped ticket anywhere else........ except for those who sell the tickets at cost which almost never happens. Then those who buy them from the other sites will go around telling the tickets were this or that outrageous amount because they didn't realize they bought the tickets at a marked up scalped price. LOL
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| sodapop - 2013-08-25 12:02 PM Calangelo - 2013-08-25 12:05 PM I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over. I wonder as well. It's even called the "AT&T Stadium" now..........another way to make some cash for ole Jerry. On RFD-TV when they had their round table type discussion & call-ins Stephen Jones (Jerry's son) called in to speak. The head of the PBR said they were working out something to make a "deal" on tickets and parking. He said something about the cheapest tickets being around $20 which will probably be lawnchairs on the very tip top. After all of the sponsors get their free tickets and then people buy them online, I will be anxious to see at what price everyone will scalp them........... because unless you buy them through the venue, you are buying a scalped ticket anywhere else........ except for those who sell the tickets at cost which almost never happens. Then those who buy them from the other sites will go around telling the tickets were this or that outrageous amount because they didn't realize they bought the tickets at a marked up scalped price. LOL
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Location: Mansfield, TX | CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in. Wait a minute!!! I don't think that's the way the bullriding works at all. (While I'm only sure how the barrel racing works because of our involvement with the BBR) the way I understand it, it's the top 10 PRCA guys VS. the top riders to qualify through the ranks of the PBR. Just like the top 10 WPRA riders Vs. the top riders qualifing through the BBR events. Before we start name calling lets get all the facts. I'm looking at the media kit that was handed out at the press conference, and it clearly says:
Be a part of history as the Top 10 contestants in the world from EACH event battle it out...but wait a minute we are not done...
ANYONE else out there that thinks they are better the the world's best gets their shout a part of $2,000.000. There will be five qualifiers sanctioned by the Professional Bull Riders, Pro Roughstock Series, United States Team Roping Championship, Better Barrel Races and the Ultimate Calf Roping for each event around the country for those that want their chance to beat the world's best on March 2, 2014.
I might be wrong, but that's the way I understand it.
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Location: East Texas | Fair enough..... And I read the press release and it just says the top contestants, but did not mention how they were determining the top contestants. Besides I got my info from bull riders and they can't be the smartest group if they get on a bull for a living. |
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| mandolin - 2013-08-25 3:35 PM sodapop - 2013-08-25 12:02 PM Calangelo - 2013-08-25 12:05 PM I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over. I wonder as well. It's even called the "AT&T Stadium" now..........another way to make some cash for ole Jerry. On RFD-TV when they had their round table type discussion & call-ins Stephen Jones (Jerry's son) called in to speak. The head of the PBR said they were working out something to make a "deal" on tickets and parking. He said something about the cheapest tickets being around $20 which will probably be lawnchairs on the very tip top. After all of the sponsors get their free tickets and then people buy them online, I will be anxious to see at what price everyone will scalp them........... because unless you buy them through the venue, you are buying a scalped ticket anywhere else........ except for those who sell the tickets at cost which almost never happens. Then those who buy them from the other sites will go around telling the tickets were this or that outrageous amount because they didn't realize they bought the tickets at a marked up scalped price. LOL
I never said I thought it would sell out.
That's a huge stadium. I don't know if it sells out when they have PBR events, if they even open up all the seats, or what. Doesn't matter one bit to me how many seats they sell. I'm sure it will be as successful as the PBR events they've had there since the PBR is involved. |
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Location: OK | So for the qualifier, if I understand this right, will cost me $750. Of that $750, only $125 goes in the pot that day. Another $125 goes to Mesquite for the semi finals. No entry fee there.
Then, all the rest goes in a pot at the American, where the pros and the rest run at each other. Did the pros go to a qualifier? Did they pay any entry fee? Do they pay an entry fee at the American, or are they running at my money?
this to me sounds like, IF I made it, (theoretically speaking) that I would enter a qualifier for not a very big pot, then the semis, for not a very big pot, only to go to the American, where it's double hard to win, for the big $, only to have a CHANCE TO DRAW $1 mil.
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| jojammer - 2013-08-25 8:08 PM So for the qualifier, if I understand this right, will cost me $750. Of that $750, only $125 goes in the pot that day. Another $125 goes to Mesquite for the semi finals. No entry fee there. Then, all the rest goes in a pot at the American, where the pros and the rest run at each other. Did the pros go to a qualifier? Did they pay any entry fee? Do they pay an entry fee at the American, or are they running at my money? this to me sounds like, IF I made it, (theoretically speaking) that I would enter a qualifier for not a very big pot, then the semis, for not a very big pot, only to go to the American, where it's double hard to win, for the big $, only to have a CHANCE TO DRAW $1 mil. I'm not sure if I like it.... The "pro" competitiors have their own qualifier........ making the top 10 in the PRCA/WPRA. There's is a year long qualifier. This is the chance for those who don't rodeo full time to compete against them. It would not only be for a chance at big bucks, bragging rights, promotion of themselves, and promotion of their horse's bloodlines. Sounds like a great deal for those who can't haul full time or who don't rodeo. Like you said it will be tough to win at The American, but those competing in the qualifiers feel like they can win on any given day.
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| jojammer - 2013-08-25 8:08 PM So for the qualifier, if I understand this right, will cost me $750. Of that $750, only $125 goes in the pot that day. Another $125 goes to Mesquite for the semi finals. No entry fee there. Then, all the rest goes in a pot at the American, where the pros and the rest run at each other. Did the pros go to a qualifier? Did they pay any entry fee? Do they pay an entry fee at the American, or are they running at my money? this to me sounds like, IF I made it, (theoretically speaking) that I would enter a qualifier for not a very big pot, then the semis, for not a very big pot, only to go to the American, where it's double hard to win, for the big $, only to have a CHANCE TO DRAW $1 mil. I'm not sure if I like it....
Not exactly right on the payouts - Entry fee is $500 with 100% being paid back out - 25% to the qualifying show, 25% to the semi finals at Mesquite and the remainder going into the pot for The American. Now let's look closer at the qualifier and semi finals level - say you get 200 entries at each qualifier - that's $25,000 paid on the qualifier level - then at the semi finals - that would be $125,000 paid out. Depending on the number of places paid, sounds like pretty good money to me. |
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Location: OK | The "pro" competitiors have their own qualifier........ making the top 10 in the PRCA/WPRA. There's is a year long qualifier. This is the chance for those who don't rodeo full time to compete against them. It would not only be for a chance at big bucks, bragging rights, promotion of themselves, and promotion of their horse's bloodlines. Sounds like a great deal for those who can't haul full time or who don't rodeo. Like you said it will be tough to win at The American, but those competing in the qualifiers feel like they can win on any given day.
I don't care how much $ they spend all year on rodeos, I care how much they spend that will go in the pot I am running at. What I'm saying is... our qualifier EF puts $ in the pot at the American. Does theirs?
I must've read the $750 wrong, but even at $500, if a % of that goes in the pot for the American out of my EF, but they don't pay an EF, that doesn't work for me.
It's the same principle as saying you have a $5000 added 5D barrel race. You aren't running at $5000, you're running at the $ that will be added to the D you will place in.
I would be game to go to this thing, but I'm just saying, becareful about reading advertising for big purses without figuring out exactly how much of that can potentially go into your pocket related to how much you are going to spend.
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Location: OK | I don't know if they pay a fee or not, that was my original question. I'm just saying they should because if they don't, that's almost like we are paying them to come run against us...... for a purse that our entry fees made and bragging rights...
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| In the rules it said saddle bronc and bareback qualifier fees are $750 with $250 going to stock I think. The barrel race fee is $500 for the qualifiers. It did say once they've paid the fee in the qualifier there is no other fee to pay. I am not seeing anything about the NFR top 10 having to pay a fee. I am assuming the money will be put up for them somewhere else since they are being invited. Just like the fees at the NFR are paid by sponsors...... Heck I don't know. I am just guessing. Maybe they are paying a fee and it just doesn't say it on the rules list since the rules document is more about the qualifiers. I would assume their is an entry fee for the top 10 NFR contestants..... it may just not have to be paid by the contestant and instead by an outside source or sponsor...... more incentive to get them to compete since it doesn't count for NFR money......... who knows??
http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/rfdtv/the-american/completerules.pdf
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Location: OK | It says the top 10 will be able to compete free of entry fees.
So all the % of all the qualifiers will make the purse at the American, plus some I'm sure.
This is cool and would be so fun if you just wanted to go, but I'm saying, this is not set up for anyone but the top 10 and the producers. They run at a good purse for no entry fees, the producer is going to get ALOT of entry fee % from all the qualifiers, and it's just a whisper of a chance that a nonpro will win an event and they will have to give that other million away. I hope hope a non-top10 wins and they do give it away. I think if not, it might die right there. That would be pretty discouraging. |
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| jojammer - 2013-08-25 9:27 PM It says the top 10 will be able to compete free of entry fees. So all the % of all the qualifiers will make the purse at the American, plus some I'm sure. This is cool and would be so fun if you just wanted to go, but I'm saying, this is not set up for anyone but the top 10 and the producers. They run at a good purse for no entry fees, the producer is going to get ALOT of entry fee % from all the qualifiers, and it's just a whisper of a chance that a nonpro will win an event and they will have to give that other million away. I hope hope a non-top10 wins and they do give it away. I think if not, it might die right there. That would be pretty discouraging. When it says "free of fees", I assume the fees will be paid by a sponsor........maybe not. Maybe someone involved can answer that.
I think there is a good chance a qualifier non top ten NFR could win each event. Heck many of them may be former NFR competitors. There are a ton of toughs in all events out there who don't go much.
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Location: Mansfield, TX | The top 10 do not pay an entry fee. They compete by invitation at the finals only. On the other hand, they aren't allowed to win $$$ at the Regional Qualifiers or Semi-finals,,,not to mention the $1,000,000 sidepot. If a qualifier jumps up and wins the whole thing they will win $100,000 and possibly up to $1.100.000. No matter how you shake it out, there has never been this kind of prize money offered ANYWHERE!!
On behalf of BBR, we are PROUD and EXCITED to be a part of such an incredible opportunity for ALL barrel racers. Can you imagine a $1,100,000 payday for one lucky person? It chould be a life changing event.
Granted this event might not be for everyone. But for alot of people it's the answer to their dreams and there's nothing else out there that can even compete moneywise. Personally, I think we should all be appreciative that RFD-TV had the vision and forsight to bring so many organizations together to make this thing a reality. |
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| Destry Fleming - 2013-08-25 9:37 PM The top 10 do not pay an entry fee. They compete by invitation at the finals only. On the other hand, they aren't allowed to win $$$ at the Regional Qualifiers or Semi-finals,,,not to mention the $1,000,000 sidepot. If a qualifier jumps up and wins the whole thing they will win $100,000 and possibly up to $1.100.000. No matter how you shake it out, there has never been this kind of prize money offered ANYWHERE!!
On behalf of BBR, we are PROUD and EXCITED to be a part of such an incredible opportunity for ALL barrel racers. Can you imagine a $1,100,000 payday for one lucky person? It chould be a life changing event.
Granted this event might not be for everyone. But for alot of people it's the answer to their dreams and there's nothing else out there that can even compete moneywise. Personally, I think we should all be appreciative that RFD-TV had the vision and forsight to bring so many organizations together to make this thing a reality.
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Location: Mansfield, TX | Sodapop you've got me to thinking!! Let me get some questions answered tomorrow and I'll post back. |
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Location: Kansas | outrundaizy - 2013-08-25 1:14 AM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-24 12:05 PM 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot.
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd.
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| Destry Fleming - 2013-08-25 10:11 PM Sodapop you've got me to thinking!! Let me get some questions answered tomorrow and I'll post back.
Thanks Destry! While you are at it, find out if it will all be aired on RFD-TV since that is the only way I will likely get to watch it. LOL I hope they show the semi-finals on tv too. |
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Location: Texas | sodapop - 2013-08-25 10:24 PM Destry Fleming - 2013-08-25 10:11 PM Sodapop you've got me to thinking!! Let me get some questions answered tomorrow and I'll post back. Thanks Destry! While you are at it, find out if it will all be aired on RFD-TV since that is the only way I will likely get to watch it. LOL I hope they show the semi-finals on tv too.
Yes please! I had my husband talked into going to watch... but then figured out it was 2 weeks from my due date. So I have to watch it on TV if I want to watch it at all. |
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Location: Qld Australia | I may be the odd on out, but I can EASILY see the qualifiers winning. Just think about it; there are SO many great competitors that DON'T follow the NFR trail. Yet they are as good and sometimes BETTER than the current top 10. |
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Location: ND | rockinj - 2013-08-26 2:29 AM I may be the odd on out, but I can EASILY see the qualifiers winning. Just think about it; there are SO many great competitors that DON'T follow the NFR trail. Yet they are as good and sometimes BETTER than the current top 10.
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Location: Oklahoma | Destry Fleming - 2013-08-25 9:37 PM The top 10 do not pay an entry fee. They compete by invitation at the finals only. On the other hand, they aren't allowed to win $$$ at the Regional Qualifiers or Semi-finals,,,not to mention the $1,000,000 sidepot. If a qualifier jumps up and wins the whole thing they will win $100,000 and possibly up to $1.100.000. No matter how you shake it out, there has never been this kind of prize money offered ANYWHERE!!
On behalf of BBR, we are PROUD and EXCITED to be a part of such an incredible opportunity for ALL barrel racers. Can you imagine a $1,100,000 payday for one lucky person? It chould be a life changing event.
Granted this event might not be for everyone. But for alot of people it's the answer to their dreams and there's nothing else out there that can even compete moneywise. Personally, I think we should all be appreciative that RFD-TV had the vision and forsight to bring so many organizations together to make this thing a reality.
Will the "qualifier race" be a seperate race from the actual race, or will it run as a sidepot? I assume it will be a side pot, but wanting to confirm. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | jojammer - 2013-08-25 6:08 PM
So for the qualifier, if I understand this right, will cost me $750. Of that $750, only $125 goes in the pot that day. Another $125 goes to Mesquite for the semi finals. No entry fee there.
Then, all the rest goes in a pot at the American, where the pros and the rest run at each other. Did the pros go to a qualifier? Did they pay any entry fee? Do they pay an entry fee at the American, or are they running at my money?
this to me sounds like, IF I made it, (theoretically speaking) that I would enter a qualifier for not a very big pot, then the semis, for not a very big pot, only to go to the American, where it's double hard to win, for the big $, only to have a CHANCE TO DRAW $1 mil.
I'm not sure if I like it....
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Location: Mansfield, TX | clover girl - 2013-08-26 10:49 AM Destry Fleming - 2013-08-25 9:37 PM The top 10 do not pay an entry fee. They compete by invitation at the finals only. On the other hand, they aren't allowed to win $$$ at the Regional Qualifiers or Semi-finals,,,not to mention the $1,000,000 sidepot. If a qualifier jumps up and wins the whole thing they will win $100,000 and possibly up to $1.100.000. No matter how you shake it out, there has never been this kind of prize money offered ANYWHERE!!
On behalf of BBR, we are PROUD and EXCITED to be a part of such an incredible opportunity for ALL barrel racers. Can you imagine a $1,100,000 payday for one lucky person? It chould be a life changing event.
Granted this event might not be for everyone. But for alot of people it's the answer to their dreams and there's nothing else out there that can even compete moneywise. Personally, I think we should all be appreciative that RFD-TV had the vision and forsight to bring so many organizations together to make this thing a reality. Will the "qualifier race" be a seperate race from the actual race, or will it run as a sidepot? I assume it will be a side pot, but wanting to confirm.
There are 5 qualifer races scattered across the US. For all the info go to www.betterbarrelraces.com
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Location: West Tennessee | TXBO - 2013-08-26 10:20 AM I envision a lot of pro's entering the qualifying rounds for that kind of money.
hmmm?
By Pro, I'm assuming you're talking about those running at the NFR? Personally, I'd consider some of the bigger named futurity trainers as professionals -- and it seems this race is designed to encourage them entering?
I wouldn't think there'd be any way to prevent them from entering a qualifying race & would the producers even want to? Just because they enter doesn't mean they'll make it?
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rockinj - 2013-08-26 2:29 AM I may be the odd on out, but I can EASILY see the qualifiers winning. Just think about it; there are SO many great competitors that DON'T follow the NFR trail. Yet they are as good and sometimes BETTER than the current top 10.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | dme0324 - 2013-08-26 11:39 AM TXBO - 2013-08-26 10:20 AM I envision a lot of pro's entering the qualifying rounds for that kind of money. hmmm?
By Pro, I'm assuming you're talking about those running at the NFR? Personally, I'd consider some of the bigger named futurity trainers as professionals -- and it seems this race is designed to encourage them entering?
I wouldn't think there'd be any way to prevent them from entering a qualifying race & would the producers even want to? Just because they enter doesn't mean they'll make it?
LOL, typing out loud here.... for some reason, I'm finding this whole thing fascinating.
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Location: Desert Land | So since it's BBR rules and not WPRA rules...can 1 person enter as many times as they want with different horses?? |
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| dme0324 - 2013-08-26 11:39 AM TXBO - 2013-08-26 10:20 AM I envision a lot of pro's entering the qualifying rounds for that kind of money. hmmm?
By Pro, I'm assuming you're talking about those running at the NFR? Personally, I'd consider some of the bigger named futurity trainers as professionals -- and it seems this race is designed to encourage them entering?
I wouldn't think there'd be any way to prevent them from entering a qualifying race & would the producers even want to? Just because they enter doesn't mean they'll make it?
LOL, typing out loud here.... for some reason, I'm finding this whole thing fascinating.
I guess what I'm saying is that the so called "no names" won't be "no names" at all. Many outside the top ten will enter the qualifying event. For that kind of money, I can even imagine some in the top ten entering the qualifying event. |
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Location: SE Missouri | TheOldGrayMare - 2013-08-26 2:08 PM So since it's BBR rules and not WPRA rules...can 1 person enter as many times as they want with different horses??
Good question..
I think its going to be SUPER exciting! |
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| I just got home from CO checking out the arena for the first qualifier next month. That is a very new arena, and looks like we should be able to do a live webcast there. 3-2-1 Action Video will be live webcasting 3 of the 5 qualifiers on the Horse Sports Network, so you will get to see who is running for the American. |
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| TXBO - 2013-08-26 12:19 PM
dme0324 - 2013-08-26 11:39 AM TXBO - 2013-08-26 10:20 AM I envision a lot of pro's entering the qualifying rounds for that kind of money. hmmm?
By Pro, I'm assuming you're talking about those running at the NFR? Personally, I'd consider some of the bigger named futurity trainers as professionals -- and it seems this race is designed to encourage them entering?
I wouldn't think there'd be any way to prevent them from entering a qualifying race & would the producers even want to? Just because they enter doesn't mean they'll make it?
LOL, typing out loud here.... for some reason, I'm finding this whole thing fascinating.
They said if they are already in the Top 10 after the NFR, and decline the invitation, they cannot run in the event. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | I was thinking about trying to qualify but then saw the $500 entry fee?!!! That's nuts! I don't have an extra $500 laying around, that's already an expensive weekend. |
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Location: Deep South | barrelracer1983 - 2013-09-01 2:13 PM
I was thinking about trying to qualify but then saw the $500 entry fee?!!! That's nuts! I don't have an extra $500 laying around, that's already an expensive weekend.
This has already been discussed on previous pages, but basically, if you really think you have a horse good enough that could win that 1.1million, I think you could find some kind of way to come up with the $500 entry fee. I know if I had the horse talented enough I'd stand on a street corner with a cardboard sign begging for loose change if I had to, to scrape it together. |
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| As far as the fee, I can think of other events with bigger or nearly as big fees with less to win. Heck I think about some of the big ropings like Mike Johnson's which I think is a $1, 000 for the calf ropers....I think the Sherrylynn barrel racers pay $350 for their fee and not nearly the purse involved. So it is all perspective...... Like I said before if the fee was a lot lower they would likely have more contestants than they could handle in these qualifying barrel races.....They'd never get the thing done. LOL
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| sodapop - 2013-09-01 7:51 PM
As far as the fee, I can think of other events with bigger or nearly as big fees with less to win. Heck I think about some of the big ropings like Mike Johnson's which I think is a $1, 000 for the calf ropers....I think the Sherrylynn barrel racers pay $350 for their fee and not nearly the purse involved. So it is all perspective...... Like I said before if the fee was a lot lower they would likely have more contestants than they could handle in these qualifying barrel races.....They'd never get the thing done. LOL
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | Doesn't matter how good your horse is when you still have to run a tight budget |
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| barrelracer1983 - 2013-09-01 11:18 PM
Doesn't matter how good your horse is when you still have to run a tight budget
I am not trying to be crappy. And believe me, I know what a tight budget is. But...its my opinion that a horse nice enough to qualify for this thing and realistically have a shot at winning something at it, can rack up an extra 500 at smaller stuff to pay the fees for the qualifier. |
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Location: Texas | bennie1 - 2013-09-01 11:29 PM barrelracer1983 - 2013-09-01 11:18 PM Doesn't matter how good your horse is when you still have to run a tight budget I am not trying to be crappy. And believe me, I know what a tight budget is. But...its my opinion that a horse nice enough to qualify for this thing and realistically have a shot at winning something at it, can rack up an extra 500 at smaller stuff to pay the fees for the qualifier.
We are on a budget, but if I thought I seriously had a chance at winning... I would do everything in my power to get myself into that race. Even if I had to take out a loan, sell a few things, or beg all my family members for small loans.
I don't think $500 is too much to ask. If someone didn't have a dollar to their name, but thought they really had a chance at winning it... they could figure out a way to come up with $500. |
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| pinx05 - 2013-09-02 12:15 AM bennie1 - 2013-09-01 11:29 PM barrelracer1983 - 2013-09-01 11:18 PM Doesn't matter how good your horse is when you still have to run a tight budget I am not trying to be crappy. And believe me, I know what a tight budget is. But...its my opinion that a horse nice enough to qualify for this thing and realistically have a shot at winning something at it, can rack up an extra 500 at smaller stuff to pay the fees for the qualifier.
I don't think $500 is too much to ask. If someone didn't have a dollar to their name, but thought they really had a chance at winning it... they could figure out a way to come up with $500.
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Location: East Texas | Destry Fleming - 2013-08-25 4:44 PM
CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in. Wait a minute!!! I don't think that's the way the bullriding works at all. (While I'm only sure how the barrel racing works because of our involvement with the BBR) the way I understand it, it's the top 10 PRCA guys VS. the top riders to qualify through the ranks of the PBR. Just like the top 10 WPRA riders Vs. the top riders qualifing through the BBR events. Before we start name calling lets get all the facts. I'm looking at the media kit that was handed out at the press conference, and it clearly says:
Be a part of history as the Top 10 contestants in the world from EACH event battle it out...but wait a minute we are not done...
ANYONE else out there that thinks they are better the the world's best gets their shout a part of $2,000.000. There will be five qualifiers sanctioned by the Professional Bull Riders, Pro Roughstock Series, United States Team Roping Championship, Better Barrel Races and the Ultimate Calf Roping for each event around the country for those that want their chance to beat the world's best on March 2, 2014.
I might be wrong, but that's the way I understand it.
I have not been keeping up. So how did it pan out? The top 10 PBR riders or the top 10 PRCA riders? |
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World’s Top Rodeo and Bull Riding Champions to Compete for $2 Million Cash Payout in Richest One-Day