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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track?
Their out there I'm sure. I have seen a few at barrel races, its just that theres not that many that have been bred to run. |
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Location: Deep South | I have done a search for Cremello studs recently to see what was available. I was interested to know if there was any that were really bred for barrels or were performing well, because well... color sells. I honestly couldn't find anything. There is one very young, local stud that is Frenchman's Guy/Oklahoma Fuel bred. They're not standing him yet though, and those lines are a couple of generations back.
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Location: north dakota | I have a perlino weanling filly by La Jollas Gold. She's not all race bred on the on the dams side though(dam goes back to Sun Frost and FDD) I plan on keeping her and and starting her on the barrels.
I have the dam who also is a perlino and plan on breeding her to our Tres Seis son coming up this spring. She currently is bred to a son of Special Effort. The nice thing about her is she's will throw color.
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| equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track?
I think it takes a special person to be attracted to this color. I personally don't like a cremello but that is just my opinion. Of course, I have a lot of friends that don't lik them either. |
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Location: Off to a barrel race... | There is a cremello gelding that competed at the IBRA National Finals and at Congress named I See the Ghost. He is ridden by Brian Carmen usually a 1D horse from what I have seen of him. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | This guy is here in South Dakota. Nicely bred IMO. Doc Bar (by Lightning Bar AAA) Doc's Jack Frost Chantella AAA (by War Chant AAA) ? Sun Frost AQHA Driftwood Ike (by Driftwood) Prissy Cline Josephine El by Super Charge AAAT) ALAMITOS SUN FROST APHA #645464 AQHA #4342558 The Ole Man AAA (by Easy Jet AAAT) Ole Alamitos Ballyachin' (by Alamitos Bar AAAT) ? Alamitos Lolly Lopez Red 1 Lolly Lopez Lee Red
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | I wonder if they all end up with "color only breeders" and we end up missing out on them. I know if I had a race bred cremello or perlino I'd do my best to get it out there and hopefully winning. |
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| Romeo white feathers of Broadus MT. His colts are elgible to the five state. I have two full sisters from him and a dash for cash azure te mare. My oldest is a 2009. I'm going to futurity her. But to be honest with you I'd like to see him crossed with more race bred mares. They turn to beat hell and have great dispositions I just would like a little more speed. But because I can't have brood areas I buy his because they are really nice overall horses. And they are all cowey so if you want a rodeo horse with color for the family his offspring work for that.
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Location: Deep South | Murphy - 2013-11-18 10:46 AM
I think you don't see a lot of them because a lot of folks aren't a fan of that color.
I understand this, I'm not particuarly attracted to them either. But people are HUGE fans of pallys and buckskins, and most, NOT all, but most will buy a pretty pal/buckskin prospect over a pretty bay/sorrel given that other factors are the same.
That's why I was curious to know why there isn't a proven/popular cremello stud already standing. |
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Location: Silex Missouri | There is a Cremello stallion by La Jollas Gold and out of an own daughter of Special Elan. We sold him as a weanling and I know they had intentions of standing him at stud. Let me see if I can find him. |
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Location: SE KS | There's a Perlino Stallion, Joe Jacks Ghost Rock, up by Wichita, KS. I'm looking at breeding my mare to him this spring!!!
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Location: Silex Missouri | willyturnit - 2013-11-18 12:16 PM There is a Cremello stallion by La Jollas Gold and out of an own daughter of Special Elan. We sold him as a weanling and I know they had intentions of standing him at stud. Let me see if I can find him.
His registered name is La White Knight
www.allbreedpedigree.com/la+white+knight
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM
Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track?
Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes? |
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equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM
Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track?
Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GoGaited - 2013-11-18 3:05 PM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
Really!!! I dont see anything wrong with his eyes, so I guess all people with blue eyes cant see  The conformation on this fella looks darn good to me. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Whiteboy - 2013-11-18 2:07 PM GoGaited - 2013-11-18 3:05 PM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes? Are you serious?
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | willyturnit - 2013-11-18 1:48 PM willyturnit - 2013-11-18 12:16 PM There is a Cremello stallion by La Jollas Gold and out of an own daughter of Special Elan. We sold him as a weanling and I know they had intentions of standing him at stud. Let me see if I can find him. His registered name is La White Knight
www.allbreedpedigree.com/la+white+knight
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Location: Silex Missouri | There are very few of them becuase they didn't use to be able to register them. They used to be considered albinos. Now, through DNA/genetics they figured out they are Cremellos/Perlinos and that they are in fact 100% color producers. I had another one by LJG that AAA on the track and was the first ever race winning cremello. Awesome mare with perfect build and a very nice head. Sorry you feel they are ugly and have squinty eyes. Last time I checked they aren't squinty. But to each their own. I currently have one by LJG and out of 7/8 sister to Chasin Firewater. |
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How long has he been at stud? Any winners?
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Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | I looked at breeding to Mr Poco Jessie Tivio - Perlino stallion owned bedonna..good looker |
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Location: Deep South | HorseMommyFiveO - 2013-11-18 6:06 PM
How long has he been at stud? Any winners?
Personally, I could care less what color a horse is. As long as they are capable!
I'm pretty sure I read that he's only three and that 2014 will be their first year breeding him. |
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| GoGaited - 2013-11-18 4:05 PM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Just Plain Lucky - 2013-11-18 7:29 PM GoGaited - 2013-11-18 4:05 PM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
It just stumps me how some people can say really dumb things about something they know not a thing about. I'm with you.... WAT is right.  |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frenchmans Bully is a cremello and I think he's in OK. Bob and Kay Weeks have him. I think he's sure well bred. There's not a hole in his pedigree. 
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Location: Central Montana | GoGaited - 2013-11-18 2:05 PM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
Just, wow. What a totally uneducated thing to say.
Now, I'm going to have to go take photos of mine.
I haven't posted that I have a new horse because I do not have many photos of him yet (BHW rule, a new horse requires photos) and he is diirrrtttyyyy and will stay that way until spring when it gets warm enough to bathe him. He was not my first or probably in my top 10 for color choices but he was in my budget and had the training I was looking for. He has a very distinct golden champangne tint to his coat.
Except for some bad shoeing that has left him looking a little crappy in the front end (we are on our way to fixing that) he is put together superbly. He is not race bred, he is bred and trained to rein, and he can flat get down and roll back in a heartbeat. He will be working barrels this summer as well as working reining patterns in the show ring.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dunit+in+creme
Edited to add a photo of him, this was emailed to me before I bought him, gotta dig around and see what I have for photos of him.
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Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track?
Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
How does color make a horse a confirmational train wreck last I checked color had the least to do with that. And I'm sure if you had blue eyes you would understand and you wouldn't call them "ugly squinty eyes" I have sky blue eyes and while they are sensitive to sunlight they arnt "ugly squinty eyes" I actually get a ton of compliments on them. As does my cremello gelding! Maybe you should think before you type. While they arnt the most sought after color they are out there and all they are is a double diluted sorrel, not an albino (I get asked a million times when I haul if he's an albino) they can do everything a normal horse can squinty eyes or not. He has No issues being outside warming up or running outdoors. Although I do keep a fly mask on his face when im not riding to somewhat help with the sunlight bc I know I don't like going out without sunglasses. they are becoming more and more popular as they are allowed to be registered now. My guy is actually reining bred and has doc o lena on his papers but I guess since he's a cremello with ugly squinty eyes you wouldn't like him! |
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I was just going to mention him. I don't know much about Bullys On Fire but Rusty French Girl has proven herself to be quit the producer!
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Rope-N-Run - 2013-11-18 9:45 PM I was just going to mention him. I don't know much about Bullys On Fire but Rusty French Girl has proven herself to be quit the producer!
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Location: Oregon | GoinJettin - 2013-11-18 8:24 PM
GoGaited - 2013-11-18 2:05 PM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? Because for the most part they are conformational train wrecks. Besides, can they even see out of those ugly, squinty eyes?
Just, wow. What a totally uneducated thing to say.
Now, I'm going to have to go take photos of mine.
I haven't posted that I have a new horse because I do not have many photos of him yet (BHW rule, a new horse requires photos) and he is diirrrtttyyyy and will stay that way until spring when it gets warm enough to bathe him. He was not my first or probably in my top 10 for color choices but he was in my budget and had the training I was looking for. He has a very distinct golden champangne tint to his coat.
Except for some bad shoeing that has left him looking a little crappy in the front end (we are on our way to fixing that) he is put together superbly. He is not race bred, he is bred and trained to rein, and he can flat get down and roll back in a heartbeat. He will be working barrels this summer as well as working reining patterns in the show ring. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dunit+in+creme Edited to add a photo of him, this was emailed to me before I bought him, gotta dig around and see what I have for photos of him.
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Location: Central Washington | OregonBR - 2013-11-18 9:53 PM Rope-N-Run - 2013-11-18 9:45 PM I was just going to mention him. I don't know much about Bullys On Fire but Rusty French Girl has proven herself to be quit the producer!
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Location: Jersey Girl | Scootch - 2013-11-18 11:43 AM equussynergy - 2013-11-18 9:51 AM Are their any cremello or perlino barrel or race horses out there? Or studs out there?
Why don't we see them in the arena more or on the track? I think it takes a special person to be attracted to this color. I personally don't like a cremello but that is just my opinion. Of course, I have a lot of friends that don't lik them either.
I am with you.
I don't care for perlino's either
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Location: Midwest Farmer's Daughter: Central Illinois | There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RLB - 2013-11-19 5:34 PM
There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
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| RLB - 2013-11-19 5:34 PM
There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | RLB - 2013-11-19 4:34 PM
There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | Like it or not color prejudice exists. I admit I am biased.
If your lined up a cremello, a perlino, an app, a loud marked paint, and a brown horse, basically equal in all other categories, I will take the brown horse every single time. If I was choosing between two paints and one was blue eyed and the other brown, I would always pick the brown eyes. Eyes surrounded by pink skin are not attractive to me either.
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | RLB - 2013-11-19 5:34 PM
There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
That's a nice horse!! Jimmy Seed used to own him. Jimmy sold him to Norma, I know from talking to him he should have kepted her, now he has her full sister...I think the mares name is Kmart blue light speical, I think he got her out of Kentucky. |
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Location: Silex Missouri | Kcaughran - 2013-11-20 11:11 AM RLB - 2013-11-19 5:34 PM
There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
That's a nice horse!! Jimmy Seed used to own him. Jimmy sold him to Norma, I know from talking to him he should have kepted her, now he has her full sister...I think the mares name is Kmart blue light speical, I think he got her out of Kentucky.
They are bred by my friend Jayma Jo Shomaker
http://www.shomakerfarms.com/
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | willyturnit - 2013-11-20 11:29 AM
Kcaughran - 2013-11-20 11:11 AM RLB - 2013-11-19 5:34 PM
There is a mare run here that is a bang-up tank of a horse. She is owned by Bob & Norma Quisenberry & run by Norma. Amazing horse & amazing woman - she's 70+ I think? (Don't quote me on that, I would hate to think she's older than she is!) She WILL take your money.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sf+blue+lite+special
That's a nice horse!! Jimmy Seed used to own him. Jimmy sold him to Norma, I know from talking to him he should have kepted her, now he has her full sister...I think the mares name is Kmart blue light speical, I think he got her out of Kentucky.
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Location: BFE, Idaho | I had a really nice all cow bred filly born the first year AQHA let them in. It was a bran spaz on my part. I had booked my top mare to a good reined cow stallion(dark chocolate pally) and they offered a discount on my other mare whom was unproven but bred to the hilt for that line of work, well she was a dark buckskin.
When foal was born, holy cow it was pink!!! I flipped out, but she turned to a perlino as a yearling. She had a hip to die for and the cutest little head, and brains to match. 1Left took her to Vegas for me and sold her, I think she is doing playdays/gymkanas in California?
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Location: out in Oklahoma | Mine are neither cremello or perlino but they are white if that counts. I am trying to decide whether to run the colt on the track or not but the filly I have started on barrels. I love color!
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