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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | This post may not be allowed so if it disappears I will understand.
A while back there was a conversation on here about bleeder supplements about horses.
A poster had said that Equidites Bleed Block and Oxy-gens Bleeder Stop were the exact same product made by the same company.
Can anyone confirm this? |
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Location: The edge of no where | I'm 99% sure that's incorrect..... If it's true I guess I can mark the Oxygen product off my list to try since Bleed Block didn't help my horse at all.  |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | MS2011 - 2013-11-20 3:33 PM I'm 99% sure that's incorrect..... If it's true I guess I can mark the Oxygen product off my list to try since Bleed Block didn't help my horse at all.
The labels are identical word for word......literally. |
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Location: Rodeos or Baseball games | I believe they are 2 different companies. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | GOIN' FAST - 2013-11-20 3:39 PM I believe they are 2 different companies.
Two different companies market them, I'm trying to figure out if the actual product is made by the same company though. It's very rare to see two totally different products with idential labels like that. |
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Location: waiting for the thaw | Equidite says on the lable it's made by Oxy-Gen. Don't see why a Company would make a product for someone else better then their own.
I've had great success with Oxy-Gens Bleeder Stop. Seems like a no brainer. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | jiterbug - 2013-11-20 4:22 PM
Equidite says on the lable it's made by Oxy-Gen. Don't see why a Company would make a product for someone else better then their own.I've had great success with Oxy-Gens Bleeder Stop. Seems like a no brainer.
I missed that part on the label. I agree with you |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | fla3cans - 2013-11-20 8:03 PM Is there a price difference?
Huge difference |
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Location: TX | They are the same. Equidite was suppose to be marketed to the cutters, reiners & English world & not make it into the barrel industry. And yes there is a big price difference. |
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| Well that explains why neither of them worked- duh to me-  |
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| Equidite has a full page ad in Barrel Horse News Magazine this month... So they are into the barrel world full swing now. :) |
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| If you do the oxy-gen bleeder stop do you still do LASIK? |
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| If you do the oxy-gen bleeder stop do you still do LASIK? |
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| heidiinaz - 2013-11-26 4:48 PM If you do the oxy-gen bleeder stop do you still do LASIK?
I wouldn't- but every case is different I guess. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | trickster j - 2013-11-26 7:37 PM heidiinaz - 2013-11-26 4:48 PM If you do the oxy-gen bleeder stop do you still do LASIK? I wouldn't- but every case is different I guess.
I was able to stop lasix with the equidite, but yes, every case is different.
I had several people on facebook confirm they are the exact same product, though equidite is saying theirs is different. Waiting on another response from them as to what the difference is. |
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| missroselee - 2013-11-26 5:40 PM trickster j - 2013-11-26 7:37 PM heidiinaz - 2013-11-26 4:48 PM If you do the oxy-gen bleeder stop do you still do LASIK? I wouldn't- but every case is different I guess.
I had several people on facebook confirm they are the exact same product, though equidite is saying theirs is different. Waiting on another response from them as to what the difference is.
I double dosed the Equidite and she still bled without lasix, I won't ever run her without lasix again, but I do like to imagine that these supplements still can help, if even in a small way- |
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| I will be calling Coltin today about the Equidite Bleed Block being the same, and get word, from the horses mouth, so to speak.
Oxy-Gen 60 Dose is 2lb @75$, Equidite 4lb 60 Dose is $150.... Perhaps youre feeding double, getting better results... and if you wanted to double up on the Oxy-Gen, youd need twice the amount, making it the same price in the end?
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Location: WI | This was last year, but i remember talking with Colton at WPRA Finals in 2012 when Equidite was first making its appearance in the Barrel horse world. I feel like he told me they worked with Oxygen to come out with their Bleed Block but the main difference is it wouldn't test positive if you were to be drug tested at a rodeo? That was his big selling point to me anyways, i could very well be mistaken.
I personally have had excellent results with Oxygen 2X and bleederstop, and was able to knock my lasix dosage in half (but still do not feel comfortable giving up lasix all together). My horse looked much healthier and was running harder when i finally got the right mix for her. Libby with Oxygen helped me personally and she is wonderful to talk to. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Total Health Enhancement Pulmon-EZ worked the best for me and super affordable. My horse is performing better than ever and seems to be happier and healthier. |
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| Cowgirl Kat - 2013-11-27 11:21 AM
Total Health Enhancement Pulmon-EZ worked the best for me and super affordable. My horse is performing better than ever and seems to be happier and healthier.
I know someone that switch to the Bleeder special blend in the Muscle Mass. Used to have to give the horse 7cc of Lasix. No more! |
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Location: Warsaw, VA | I use Animal Element Detox and the Immune.. No issues, no lasix etc going on over 2 yrs now... |
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| Bleed Block contains higher concentrations of the ingredients. That is why it costs more. Your horse is going to keep on bleeding if you do not heal the lungs up first. Heal the lung, make sure there is no bacterial or fungal infections. Help clear up the scar tissue by using Lung Aid. Lasix is a diaretic, it does not stop bleeding, it removes pressure off the lungs but please build your horses venous system. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Colton emailed me last night and said his product had higher concentrations of ingredients in it and was designed to be used everywhere, including super hot climates like Dubai. |
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| missroselee - 2013-11-21 1:31 PM
This post may not be allowed so if it disappears I will understand.
A while back there was a conversation on here about bleeder supplements about horses.
A poster had said that Equidites Bleed Block and Oxy-gens Bleeder Stop were the exact same product made by the same company.
Can anyone confirm this?
Recently talked to Coltin of Equidite, and was told that these are not the exact same product, they are manufactured at the same facility as Oxy-Gen, and that Equidite will be moving to a new manufacturer so that this rumor can be put to rest.
Also, Equidite was never not allowed to be sold to Barrel Racers, they just started out with Reiners and Cutters, and have spread to other diciplines. As I mentioned earlier, Equidite has a full page ad in Barrel Horse News Magazine.
Edited by terriblywickedgirl 2013-12-06 4:11 PM
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Location: Georgia | Depends on why your horse bleeds if you should use lasix with the supplements or not.. I wouldnt suggest not using Lasix during a run reguardless. Unless you scope him to make sure what your using is really stopping the bleeding. He could still be bleeding inside and not bleed out. To big a risk of infection. |
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