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Making a strong case for vegan diets and saving our cows...
Bear
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I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now and I will sleep better tonight, because the Norwegian army has decided to "go green" by abstaining from eating meats on Fridays. They do this because it is said that livestock accounts for 20% of "greenhouse gasses" - basically a euphemism for cow farts. This will reduce their meat consumption by 150 tons, and this new move has drawn applause from environmental groups around the world. If you assume an average cow yields at least 500 lbs of meat, that means 4 cows yield 1 ton. That means 600 fewer cows get butchered a year. I'm sure PETA is orgasmic over this as well. No doubt about it, this will make a huge difference. Can we all sing Kumbaya? Idiots.
Come to think of it, maybe that's why I am freezing my ass off in 12 degrees up here?  
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.....So, I decided to eat boiled eggplant and alfalfa sprouts tonight for dinner, just to do my part.
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And I thought they only ate raindeer and fish!!! By the way Norway has an Army?
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You have to wonder how these people function.  My dog has much more common sense.  
Do we even have global warming anymore?  If anyone has some extra global warming, please send it up here, because I'm freezing my ass off.  I'm feeling so desperate, I had a can of pork and beans  for dinner tonight in the hopes that I would fart like a horse and maybe warm the climate a little up here.
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Reg. Aug 2009
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 I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?

Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-21 6:39 PM

You have to wonder how these people function.  My dog has much more common sense.  
Do we even have global warming anymore?  If anyone has some extra global warming, please send it up here, because I'm freezing my ass off.  I'm feeling so desperate, I had a can of pork and beans  for dinner tonight in the hopes that I would fart like a horse and maybe warm the climate a little up here.

No global warming here! minus 39 with wind chill here this morning, Hope my cows fart lots tonight so it warms up some.
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Reg. Dec 2007
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TXBO - 2013-11-21 6:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?

Those are stuffed portobellos, Jim.  That's a picture from last summer.
 
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I just don't get their twisted logic.  So, instead of eating those 600 cows, they are standing around farting....and creating global warming.  Seems to me they should be eating MORE animals, not less, if they want to get rid of all that cow flatus.
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Heck.....they should all just become Catholics....we didn't eat meat on Friday for thousands of years.......I didn't realize that I was helping greenhouse gases.....who knew? 

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NJJ - 2013-11-21 7:08 PM Heck.....they should all just become Catholics....we didn't eat meat on Friday for thousands of years.......I didn't relaize that I was helping greenhouse gases.....who knew? 

So it's all your fault, Norma!  If it weren't for you Catholics, we wouldn't have so many cows and global warming wouldn't be a problem!
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-21 7:06 PM

I just don't get their twisted logic.  So, instead of eating those 600 cows, they are standing around farting....and creating global warming.  Seems to me they should be eating MORE animals, not less, if they want to get rid of all that cow flatus.

That's what I'm saying.
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Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
Those are stuffed portobellos, Jim.  That's a picture from last summer.

 

 Darn, that looks good. What do you stuff them with?
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They blame corn for all that gas! Grass fed cattle all the way! Ok, but we also want to buy out that fancy ranch and build houses for the growing population, and we want free range grass fed cattle! HAH now how does THAT work? People just don't get it. I agree, no Global Warning here either! 14 degrees without including wind chill! BURRRR!
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 It's cold here in Houston also.  It's only 72 right now. By the time I go out to throw my steak on the grill, I'll probably have to put a sweatshirt on.
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Reg. Dec 2007
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TXBO - 2013-11-21 7:32 PM
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TXBO - 2013-11-21 6:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
Those are stuffed portobellos, Jim.  That's a picture from last summer.

 [/quote]  Darn, that looks good. What do you stuff them with?

I think I chopped up the stems, sautee'd them in butter with chopped green onions, and something else.  I stuffed the mushrooms with it and heaped Mozarella on top then grilled them alongside the ribeye.

72 degrees and you are thinking about a sweatshirt?  You sissy.  I did chores in a windbreaker and sweater.  It's brutal up here.
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Reg. Dec 2007
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WYOracer - 2013-11-21 7:35 PM They blame corn for all that gas! Grass fed cattle all the way! Ok, but we also want to buy out that fancy ranch and build houses for the growing population, and we want free range grass fed cattle! HAH now how does THAT work? People just don't get it. I agree, no Global Warning here either! 14 degrees without including wind chill! BURRRR!

It says 14 degrees here right now with wind chill of 0.  Feels a lot colder than that now.  I can't even ride because when it's this cold I rely on snow over this rock hard frozen craggy ground.  It's like a moonscape.
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TXBO - 2013-11-21 6:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
Those are stuffed portobellos, Jim.  That's a picture from last summer.

 [/quote]  Darn, that looks good. What do you stuff them with?

I think I chopped up the stems, sautee'd them in butter with chopped green onions, and something else.  I stuffed the mushrooms with it and heaped Mozarella on top then grilled them alongside the ribeye.

72 degrees and you are thinking about a sweatshirt?  You sissy.  I did chores in a windbreaker and sweater.  It's brutal up here.

It will only be in the 60's by the time I go out there. Bbbrrrrrrrr!
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Reg. Jan 2004
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Green house gasses from a cow!!??? Have they monitored teenaged boys!? And there's NO WAY I'd let him have a can of pork & beans in a confined area!  
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Funny Post. The Gas Is The Methane They ExpeL When They Chew Their Cud. Not That The Other End Is Blameless, But The Main Focus Was Stomach Gas They Burped Up While Ruminating.
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I'm remembering an episode of Two and a Half Men where Charlie was dating Mia the vegetarian and desperately trying to eat her diet.....finally when she caught a whiff of cheeseburger on Charlie's breath and scolded him Charlie threw a fit and said he could no longer tolerate "medallion of artichoke with lawnmower sauce. "  Very funny scene.
 
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You know that California tried to say the same thing right?  All of the smog really wasn't from the millions of cars on the road...nope that smog in the Central Valley was because of all of the dairy cows living there.  No joke.  I clearly remember my professor in college handing out that news article to us one day and then all my friends that come from the farm getting really ****ed off.

I really can't handle stupidity and ignorance like that... 
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Gives new meaning to the Norwegian jokes we hear up here!

The mushrooms have sauteed onions and green peppers in them and I think I suggested blue cheese crumbles melted over the top but any good cheese works great!  :
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rodeorun68 - 2013-11-21 8:19 PM

Green house gasses from a cow!!??? Have they monitored teenaged boys!? And there's NO WAY I'd let him have a can of pork & beans in a confined area!  

Bahahaha!!! SOOO true!! I have a teen son, it's dangerous to ride in the car with him from the "emissions" alone!
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-21 7:06 PM

I just don't get their twisted logic.  So, instead of eating those 600 cows, they are standing around farting....and creating global warming.  Seems to me they should be eating MORE animals, not less, if they want to get rid of all that cow flatus.

But wouldn't the DEMAND for cows decrease and thereby decrease the amount of them because of supply and demand?
It might be silly BUT I think it's crazy how widely available and CHEAP meat is today, but there is a price to be paid by the environment and the animals themselves and IMO it's low quality meat ... I'd never eat any meat from a grocery store but do buy it from local farmers that raise it in a healthier more sustainable way for the cattle and for people. Since we pay about 3x what you would in a grocery store we don't eat as much and appreciate it more, it's mind boggling the amount of meat we consume in the U.S. because it is so cheap but you pay a low price and you get low quality.....in my opinion.
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Reg. Apr 2008
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-21 7:06 PM

I just don't get their twisted logic.  So, instead of eating those 600 cows, they are standing around farting....and creating global warming.  Seems to me they should be eating MORE animals, not less, if they want to get rid of all that cow flatus.

But wouldn't the DEMAND for cows decrease and thereby decrease the amount of them because of supply and demand?
It might be silly BUT I think it's crazy how widely available and CHEAP meat is today, but there is a price to be paid by the environment and the animals themselves and IMO it's low quality meat ... I'd never eat any meat from a grocery store but do buy it from local farmers that raise it in a healthier more sustainable way for the cattle and for people. Since we pay about 3x what you would in a grocery store we don't eat as much and appreciate it more, it's mind boggling the amount of meat we consume in the U.S. because it is so cheap but you pay a low price and you get low quality.....in my opinion.

We buy our beef on the hoof from someone local that we know and trust, then take it to the butcher and have it processed. Considering all of the meat a person gets even from a side of beef, it comes out less per pound than to go buy the same cuts of meat from the grocery store by a LOT.

That being said, I don't think the Norwegians are being all that altruistic. If you read between the lines, some budget cruncher probably figured out that they would save a lot of money by foregoing meat for 1 day per week. They just had the political sense to spin it the way they did. The US Gov't however, wants to institute a "fart tax" if you will, on ranchers and farmers on a per head basis. How is that solving anything? Will it reduce the amount of gas the cows produce? No. It is just another means of collecting tax revenue. Period. And if there were a "global warming" problem, then it's GLOBAL, as in the entire globe, I'd start with China. The pollution is so thick there you can't see through it. They don't live in a bubble.

The bigger issue is this, if the government were allowed to legislate this "fart tax" then that is going to drive up the price of meat and evenutally send production of meat to other countries that have cheaper labor and fewer regulations. We then lose a lot of control over our food supply. Lose control over the food supply, we are powerless.

Just my 2 cents.
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I can see where a "fart tax" could be satifying, if they levied it on people.  I'd start with congress, since that's where there is the highest concentration of hot air.  Bunch of old fart bags.
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I agree, adding a "fart tax" is the stupidest thing I've heard of and will not have the desired effect I'm guessing... maybe they could start by NOT subsidizing corn and doing something to encourage people to pasture raise their cattle. It's just a mess, I don't know the solution but government interference is not the solution either... just like subsidizing doesn't help either JMO.
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LMS - 2013-11-22 8:56 AM Gives new meaning to the Norwegian jokes we hear up here!



The mushrooms have sauteed onions and green peppers in them and I think I suggested blue cheese crumbles melted over the top but any good cheese works great!  :) 

Were you the one who gave me that recipe?  I think you are right.
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Hot off the presses.

 
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/11/26/big-methane-burp-cows-refineries-spew-gas/?intcmp=features

 
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Well, there you go.  That article says Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas are the biggest offenders.  That settles it.  We now have solid scientific proof that all this hot weather is on account of your gassy ass cows down there.  Tons and tons of methane being released into the atmosphere, slowly cooking us alive.  It's going to cost money to get all that methane cleaned up.  We'll just have to tax all these greedy ranchers based on how much their cows fart.  Besides, it will serve a dual purpose......all those steaks and burgers are bad for your health anyway.  This will encourage Americans to eat more healthy....replace that nasty juicy tender beef with delicious "green" vegetables like kale, broccoli, alfalfa sprouts, and endive.  The taxes will both fund Obamacare and help with the costs of air cleanup efforts, so we can get rid of all this warm weather. 
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TXBO - 2013-11-21 4:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?

 Um, that was my first thought... if you kill them all to eat them, won't there be less gas emitted?!?!
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-26 10:09 AM Well, there you go.  That article says Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas are the biggest offenders.  That settles it.  We now have solid scientific proof that all this hot weather is on account of your gassy ass cows down there.  Tons and tons of methane being released into the atmosphere, slowly cooking us alive.  It's going to cost money to get all that methane cleaned up.  We'll just have to tax all these greedy ranchers based on how much their cows fart.  Besides, it will serve a dual purpose......all those steaks and burgers are bad for your health anyway.  This will encourage Americans to eat more healthy....replace that nasty juicy tender beef with delicious "green" vegetables like kale, broccoli, alfalfa sprouts, and endive.  The taxes will both fund Obamacare and help with the costs of air cleanup efforts, so we can get rid of all this warm weather. 

Well, those ****ed farting cows must not be in my neck of the woods.. cause it was 30 degress here this morning as is going to be 19 tomorrow morning.  I live in an area saturated with cows and am still freezing!!!  LOL! 
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I will believe cows are the problem when someone slaps a fart bag on Bessie and measures the PSI of methane in her farts. For crying out loud, there is just no end to the things people will come up with. Here's an idea, if manure is really the bigger methane problem, why not collect it as a renewable resource. Let it just simmer away producing all of that terrible methane and recycle it into natural gas? We can have fart cars.
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ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-11-26 10:26 AM
HotbearLVR - 2013-11-26 10:09 AM Well, there you go.  That article says Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas are the biggest offenders.  That settles it.  We now have solid scientific proof that all this hot weather is on account of your gassy ass cows down there.  Tons and tons of methane being released into the atmosphere, slowly cooking us alive.  It's going to cost money to get all that methane cleaned up.  We'll just have to tax all these greedy ranchers based on how much their cows fart.  Besides, it will serve a dual purpose......all those steaks and burgers are bad for your health anyway.  This will encourage Americans to eat more healthy....replace that nasty juicy tender beef with delicious "green" vegetables like kale, broccoli, alfalfa sprouts, and endive.  The taxes will both fund Obamacare and help with the costs of air cleanup efforts, so we can get rid of all this warm weather. 
Well, those ****ed farting cows must not be in my neck of the woods.. cause it was 30 degress here this morning as is going to be 19 tomorrow morning.  I live in an area saturated with cows and am still freezing!!!  LOL! 

My neighbor has 1000+ pairs, therefore I am sure that it would have been zero at my house this morning instead of 29 if he would divest his herd.   
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Seriously, these sorts of people are just plain loony, whacked out, batsh!t crazy.  I think it's a virus in their brain that makes them this way.  No other way to explain the collective insanity.
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I am thinking a generation of crack babies or an infestation of coke addicts.   

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SC Wrangler - 2013-11-26 11:06 AM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-11-26 10:26 AM
HotbearLVR - 2013-11-26 10:09 AM Well, there you go.  That article says Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas are the biggest offenders.  That settles it.  We now have solid scientific proof that all this hot weather is on account of your gassy ass cows down there.  Tons and tons of methane being released into the atmosphere, slowly cooking us alive.  It's going to cost money to get all that methane cleaned up.  We'll just have to tax all these greedy ranchers based on how much their cows fart.  Besides, it will serve a dual purpose......all those steaks and burgers are bad for your health anyway.  This will encourage Americans to eat more healthy....replace that nasty juicy tender beef with delicious "green" vegetables like kale, broccoli, alfalfa sprouts, and endive.  The taxes will both fund Obamacare and help with the costs of air cleanup efforts, so we can get rid of all this warm weather. 
Well, those ****ed farting cows must not be in my neck of the woods.. cause it was 30 degress here this morning as is going to be 19 tomorrow morning.  I live in an area saturated with cows and am still freezing!!!  LOL! 
My neighbor has 1000+ pairs, therefore I am sure that it would have been zero at my house this morning instead of 29 if he would divest his herd.   

Hope he doesn't, you surely will freeze to death.   
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This crap is all Al Gore's fault.... moron! 
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Lisantwist - 2013-11-26 10:12 AM
TXBO - 2013-11-21 4:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
 Um, that was my first thought... if you kill them all to eat them, won't there be less gas emitted?!?!

 Liberal logic really is entertaining, isn't it? 
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TXBO - 2013-11-26 11:47 AM
Lisantwist - 2013-11-26 10:12 AM
TXBO - 2013-11-21 4:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
 Um, that was my first thought... if you kill them all to eat them, won't there be less gas emitted?!?!
 Liberal logic really is entertaining, isn't it? 

I guess PETA is more worried about the welfare of the animals than us humans.. Cows emmitting methane and destroying our ozone is cruel to us humans.  But they would rather us not kill them for food (as they were put here on earth for), because it is cruel to them... maybe we should start our own group:  Humans Against Irrational Retards (HAIR) or something along those lines!
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-11-26 12:11 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-21 5:48 PM .....So, I decided to eat boiled eggplant and alfalfa sprouts tonight for dinner, just to do my part.

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Can I come to your house tonight? That looks delicious!!! 
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2013-11-26 12:13 PM
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ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-11-26 12:02 PM
TXBO - 2013-11-26 11:47 AM
Lisantwist - 2013-11-26 10:12 AM
TXBO - 2013-11-21 4:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
 Um, that was my first thought... if you kill them all to eat them, won't there be less gas emitted?!?!
 Liberal logic really is entertaining, isn't it? 
I guess PETA is more worried about the welfare of the animals than us humans.. Cows emmitting methane and destroying our ozone is cruel to us humans.  But they would rather us not kill them for food (as they were put here on earth for), because it is cruel to them... maybe we should start our own group:  Humans Against Irrational Retards (HAIR) or something along those lines!

I believe like you do.  The animals were put here for our use.  We are to have dominion over them and be stewards of the land.  PETA wants to remove humans from the natural food chain.  When you do that, you destroy the habitat and everything dies. 
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ACEINTHEHOLE
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2013-11-26 12:18 PM
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TXBO - 2013-11-26 12:13 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-11-26 12:02 PM
TXBO - 2013-11-26 11:47 AM
Lisantwist - 2013-11-26 10:12 AM
TXBO - 2013-11-21 4:41 PM  I'm just wondering..... Do cattle create more greenhouse gases by standing in a field or sitting on a plate?



Are those stuffed mushrooms, Doc?
 Um, that was my first thought... if you kill them all to eat them, won't there be less gas emitted?!?!
 Liberal logic really is entertaining, isn't it? 
I guess PETA is more worried about the welfare of the animals than us humans.. Cows emmitting methane and destroying our ozone is cruel to us humans.  But they would rather us not kill them for food (as they were put here on earth for), because it is cruel to them... maybe we should start our own group:  Humans Against Irrational Retards (HAIR) or something along those lines!
I believe like you do.  The animals were put here for our use.  We are to have dominion over them and be stewards of the land.  PETA wants to remove humans from the natural food chain.  When you do that, you destroy the habitat and everything dies. 

Here Here!!  
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-11-26 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: Making a strong case for vegan diets and saving our cows...



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As TXBO suggested, liberal logic is puzzling, to say the least.
Take smoking for example.  Tobacco tax generates a lot of revenues and much of that is said to be earmarked for children's health.  In other words, the tobacco tax generates much needed revenues for social programs, and healthcare.  Ergo, it only stands to reason that the more people smoke, the more money for government, yet their stated reason is to have the tax as a disincentive for smokers.  The reality is they WANT people to smoke.  Besides, they need someone to vilify. 
In the case of cow farts, then logic says they would impose a tax on cow farts as a disincentive....or so they would say.  Once those cow fart dollars start rolling in, they will probably want more cow farts so they can generate more cow fart revenue.  If, however, they succeed in their stated mission of lowering cow fart emissions (and thus lower methane), then numbers of cows will decline.....and farts will decline, and I will freeze my ass off even more than I am right now.  Once cow numbers decline, less beef will be consumed, and more cabbage and beans will be consumed.  More people will fart larger amounts of methane.  That will lead to a natural extension of the fart tax on humans, so people will start investing in gas-ex.  That will lead to a gas ex tax, and so forth and so on.....
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