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Let's pretend that this was your mare....Who would you breed her to as a race horse prospect?
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 I am not independently wealthy and I currently do not have a sugar daddy, so Corona Cartel is out....as is anything else above $500 lol.....jk,jk,jk.....I have about a $3500 limit....Louisiana studs are preferred.


WHOA!!! That didn't turn out right.....Let me try something different!

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I'd sell her to me and let me worry about it. 
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Let me see if this works....


 
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Posted 2013-11-22 10:48 AM
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How about Divide The Cash? I only pulled up LA stallions and a friend of mine has a really wine Graded Stakes Winning Pritzi daughter. Her top performers were by Seperatist. 
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 Or why not Dashin Bye since her top performer so far was by him?
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TheOldGrayMare - 2013-11-22 10:48 AM How about Divide The Cash? I only pulled up LA stallions and a friend of mine has a really wine Graded Stakes Winning Pritzi daughter. Her top performers were by Seperatist. 

 Is my link working?

Haven't seen Divide the Cash. I need to make a short list of studs I need to go take a look at. I will put him on the list :)
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TheOldGrayMare - 2013-11-22 10:49 AM  Or why not Dashin Bye since her top performer so far was by him?

Yes, he's the obvious choice and I do love him.....


Trouble is there are soooo many good studs here.....this just rolled into town :)


http://www.stallionesearch.com/default.asp?section=21&story=13820

 
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TheOldGrayMare - 2013-11-22 10:48 AM How about Divide The Cash? I only pulled up LA stallions and a friend of mine has a really wine Graded Stakes Winning Pritzi daughter. Her top performers were by Seperatist. 
 Is my link working?



Haven't seen Divide the Cash. I need to make a short list of studs I need to go take a look at. I will put him on the list :)

Yes, your link is working now  
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Posted 2013-11-22 10:56 AM
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 and....look at this one....

http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/rollnthunder.htm
 
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Posted 2013-11-22 10:58 AM
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and...this boy is in town now too.....nice record....


 
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-11-22 11:04 AM
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LRQHS - 2013-11-22 10:56 AM  and....look at this one....



http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/rollnthunder.htm

 

 
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barrelracr131 - 2013-11-22 11:04 AM
LRQHS - 2013-11-22 10:56 AM  and....look at this one....



http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/rollnthunder.htm

 
 

The pedigree is fine isn't it. They said he's 15.3 and well made. I want to see him in person.  
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-11-22 11:20 AM
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LRQHS - 2013-11-22 11:07 AM
barrelracr131 - 2013-11-22 11:04 AM
LRQHS - 2013-11-22 10:56 AM  and....look at this one....



http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/rollnthunder.htm

 
 
The pedigree is fine isn't it. They said he's 15.3 and well made. I want to see him in person.  

And he's gorgeous! At least in the photos 
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-11-22 11:26 AM
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You know my opinion....Dashin Bye.  It's proven to have worked before.  Unless the other stallions are outselling him at the yearling sales.  That's something i'd have to look in to as well to make my final decision.   
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:34 AM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2013-11-22 10:49 AM  Or why not Dashin Bye since her top performer so far was by him?
Yes, he's the obvious choice and I do love him.....





Trouble is there are soooo many good studs here.....this just rolled into town :)




http://www.stallionesearch.com/default.asp?section=21&story=13820



 

Me likey this guy!   
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:35 AM
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While I know you have a son of Streakin Six, what about Triple Vodka?  http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/triplevodka.htm  He may be young and relatively unproven, but he is gorgeous, has an awesome slope to his shoulder and hip, and look at all those muscles! And an SI of 101. If she were mine, I'd take a look at him.
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-11-22 11:36 AM
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Dashin Bye...but you already know that. 
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Herbie - 2013-11-22 11:26 AM You know my opinion....Dashin Bye.  It's proven to have worked before.  Unless the other stallions are outselling him at the yearling sales.  That's something i'd have to look in to as well to make my final decision.   

She produced stakes foals with Some Dasher and Dashin Bye...she seems to work well with the Dash For Cash line.  

lol but, Fast Prize Jordan sure is pretty.....




 
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:39 AM
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Whiteboy - 2013-11-22 11:36 AM Dashin Bye...but you already know that. 

I know, I know lol.....but, Fast Prize Jordan is PRETTY and bred so well. I'm just doubting myself lol.....they need to quit posting pictures of new stallions rolling into the state lol.. 
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Whiteboy - 2013-11-22 11:36 AM Dashin Bye...but you already know that. 
I know, I know lol.....but, Fast Prize Jordan is PRETTY and bred so well. I'm just doubting myself lol.....they need to quit posting pictures of new stallions rolling into the state lol.. 

They don't ask you at the pay window if your horse is pretty!  BLAHAHAHA.....just kidding....I had to say it.  That's always my line when i'm selling a "not so pretty" one.  Fast Prize Jordan is a nice horse for sure.  All of the stallions you've mentioned are nice.  I'd look at it one of two ways....one, which will bring most through the yearling sales, or two, which will be the most versatile and bring the same as a track prospect or a barrel prospect.  Lots of barrel racers do recognize TV because Snazzy is a member her.  He would be very marketable both ways and that is something to consider. 
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:46 AM
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Here is my two cents......Streakin Six Plus Coup De Kas Equals .......SPEED BALL!!!!!!!

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Triple Vodka, I think he's proven his self pretty darn good,if I was breeding I want something thats proven their self on the track I dont want some dink that dont have much of a speed index, I would want what this young stud has. After the track if they dont do what you like then the foal that you get can head to the barrel pen. I think Triple Vodka has it 
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:47 AM
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mtcanchazer - 2013-11-22 10:35 AM

While I know you have a son of Streakin Six, what about Triple Vodka?  http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/triplevodka.htm  He may be young and relatively unproven, but he is gorgeous, has an awesome slope to his shoulder and hip, and look at all those muscles! And an SI of 101. If she were mine, I'd take a look at him.

 I wish I had a mare for him, his early book fee is a great price, and I doubt he will stay that affordable once his babies start to run.
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jbhoot - 2013-11-22 11:46 AM Her is two cents......Streakin Six Plus Coup De Kas Equals .......SPEED BALL!!!!!!!

Got two of them already.....and I'm pleased with them......going to race the weanling myself for sure.

Thanks for the input :)

This is the weanling. Someone on Facebook asked me if I was giving her steroids lol.....nope....baby got that back honestly lol...


 




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 I appreciate everyone's input. I am going to make a visit to Hebert Quarter Horses and certainly will eyeball Triple Vodka. He is a very nice horse.
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:56 AM
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jbhoot - 2013-11-22 11:46 AM Her is two cents......Streakin Six Plus Coup De Kas Equals .......SPEED BALL!!!!!!!
Got two of them already.....and I'm pleased with them......going to race the weanling myself for sure.



Thanks for the input :)



This is the weanling. Someone on Facebook asked me if I was giving her steroids lol.....nope....baby got that back honestly lol...





 

I like her booty, shes a hotty  
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Posted 2013-11-22 12:15 PM
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My vote for what it's worth, the roll on thunder stud. My reasoning, for resale purposes. He is outstandingly built, great bone and hoof, balanced body, great baby doll head. I'm a firm believer in form to function, if it doesn't make a race horse it could be marketed in the barrel pen, show pen etc.
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Jdpb - 2013-11-22 12:15 PM My vote for what it's worth, the roll on thunder stud. My reasoning, for resale purposes. He is outstandingly built, great bone and hoof, balanced body, great baby doll head. I'm a firm believer in form to function, if it doesn't make a race horse it could be marketed in the barrel pen, show pen etc.

His pedigree is gorgeous. Love the dam line. Plus, he's coming off the Hawn Holt Ranch. He looks put together very well. I thought he might be small, but they are telling me he is 15.3. I have to go see him in person.  
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LRQHS - 2013-11-22 11:56 AM

 and....look at this one....

http://www.hebertquarterhorses.com/rollnthunder.htm
 

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Posted 2013-11-22 12:24 PM
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I know this one is not in your territory, but I sure LOVE him, Eddie Stinson. I've been wanting one of his babies since he started standing at stud. His stud fee is 2K with special considerations. I just may take that baby off your hands once it comes along
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Klittle3 - 2013-11-22 12:24 PM I know this one is not in your territory, but I sure LOVE him, Eddie Stinson. I've been wanting one of his babies since he started standing at stud. His stud fee is 2K with special considerations. I just may take that baby off your hands once it comes along

No, he was and I missed out on him. He is a nice stud.  
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jbhoot - 2013-11-22 10:46 AM Here is my two cents......Streakin Six Plus Coup De Kas Equals .......SPEED BALL!!!!!!!

I sure hope so!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/de+preferred+stock+foal+6
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Klittle3 - 2013-11-22 12:24 PM I know this one is not in your territory, but I sure LOVE him, Eddie Stinson. I've been wanting one of his babies since he started standing at stud. His stud fee is 2K with special considerations. I just may take that baby off your hands once it comes along

No, he was and I missed out on him. He is a nice stud.  

I remember when he stood in LA. I missed out on that one as well. Especially before he started becoming more proven. He's a good looking fella.
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Posted 2013-11-22 1:45 PM
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You know I LOVE DASHIN BYE!!! Which  brings me to the fact you haven't found me a 3 year old by him yet!!!!!!  

But I'll forgive you I guess
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willyturnit - 2013-11-22 1:45 PM You know I LOVE DASHIN BYE!!! Which  brings me to the fact you haven't found me a 3 year old by him yet!!!!!!  



But I'll forgive you I guess

BOOM!! You ask and you shall receive lol....#8 from the top! lol.....

 
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willyturnit - 2013-11-22 1:45 PM You know I LOVE DASHIN BYE!!! Which  brings me to the fact you haven't found me a 3 year old by him yet!!!!!!  



But I'll forgive you I guess
BOOM!! You ask and you shall receive lol....#8 from the top! lol.....



 
http://www.flittokill.com/HorsesForSale.html

 

Shoot she's 5 and knocked up.......never mind.......there's another one down the page too.......I'll try again lol... 
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willyturnit - 2013-11-22 1:45 PM You know I LOVE DASHIN BYE!!! Which  brings me to the fact you haven't found me a 3 year old by him yet!!!!!!  



But I'll forgive you I guess
BOOM!! You ask and you shall receive lol....#8 from the top! lol.....



 
http://www.flittokill.com/HorsesForSale.html

 

Shoot she's 5 and knocked up.......never mind.......there's another one down the page too.......I'll try again lol... 

Would you be interested in a weanling? Race her then run barrels on her.
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if your mare belonged to me and I was wanting to spend $3500+ on a foal. ..

I would sell the mare and add her money to the $3500+ and go to the La yearling sale and buy me a well bred foal that has a dam that ran in the 90's and the 2nd and 3rd dams had high speed indexes and decent earnings too.

The stallion get I would concentrate on would be this guy ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=141

I would buy a filly for me to race and then keep as a long term future broodmare ...

GOOD LUCK ...
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No, looking for something to ride now. After I lost my mare I just haven't found "the one" that I want to try and get going. I have had a couple but just didn't have the right fit. I loved my Dashin Bye and have been looking for another one. Preferring a filly. 
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-22 2:05 PM if your mare belonged to me and I was wanting to spend $3500+ on a foal. .. I would sell the mare and add her money to the $3500+ and go to the La yearling sale and buy me a well bred foal that has a dam that ran in the 90's and the 2nd and 3rd dams had high speed indexes and decent earnings too. The stallion get I would concentrate on would be this guy ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=141 I would buy a filly for me to race and then keep as a long term future broodmare ... GOOD LUCK ...
 You want me to sell my stakes producing, proven mare, that has had 3 to race, 3 winner's, 2 stakes winner's, 2 with a SI over 100 and 2 still racing, who is also the half sister to the dam of PJ Chick in Black and go buy an unproven Heza Fast Dash daughter????

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BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-22 2:05 PM if your mare belonged to me and I was wanting to spend $3500+ on a foal. .. I would sell the mare and add her money to the $3500+ and go to the La yearling sale and buy me a well bred foal that has a dam that ran in the 90's and the 2nd and 3rd dams had high speed indexes and decent earnings too. The stallion get I would concentrate on would be this guy ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=141 I would buy a filly for me to race and then keep as a long term future broodmare ... GOOD LUCK ...

is that your final answer 
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dhdqhllc - 2013-11-22 2:17 PM you've got a goat....is it a billy????  breed to that.... 

It's a girl, pervert lol.... 
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barrelracr131 - 2013-11-22 2:18 PM

BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-22 2:05 PM if your mare belonged to me and I was wanting to spend $3500+ on a foal. .. I would sell the mare and add her money to the $3500+ and go to the La yearling sale and buy me a well bred foal that has a dam that ran in the 90's and the 2nd and 3rd dams had high speed indexes and decent earnings too. The stallion get I would concentrate on would be this guy ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=141 I would buy a filly for me to race and then keep as a long term future broodmare ... GOOD LUCK ...

is that your final answer 

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willyturnit - 2013-11-22 2:11 PM

No, looking for something to ride now. After I lost my mare I just haven't found "the one" that I want to try and get going. I have had a couple but just didn't have the right fit. I loved my Dashin Bye and have been looking for another one. Preferring a filly. 

Hope you find the one, shopping can be a long and frustrating process, especially when you know exactly what you're looking for. Haven't seen a whole lot of his daughters for sale. Don't know if that's because there aren't many out there or because people aren't selling. Maybe there'll be something at Heritage Place in January.
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Posted 2013-11-22 2:40 PM
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 I have a strong strong weakness for Pritzi daughters!! I had a really really nice Furyofthewind daughter who was out of a Pritzi mare.
I have a Pritzi daughter that is a 3/4 sister to Catchmeinyourdreams that is bred this year to our stud, and half brother to Furyofthewind, Flyingwitheagles. We are breeding her back to Fury this year & I cannot wait for that baby.
Fury is also Triple crown & Future Fortunes so your baby could be very marketable to both the barrel pen & track. 

We also give GREAT (wink, wink) considerations to our stud too!
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Posted 2013-11-22 3:45 PM
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 Jess Louisiana Blue hands down!!!
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I'm going to be the odd man out and say I really like Quick To Flare Up. He has a nice pedigree, and he is one nice looking son of a gun!!!

I mean seriously! Look at that bootie!!!




I do like Triple Vodka though 

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Posted 2013-11-22 3:52 PM
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NFRhereicome - 2013-11-22 3:45 PM  Jess Louisiana Blue hands down!!!

 Totally forgot about that one!  Yep, that'd be nice too!
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LRQHS - 2013-11-22 10:58 AM

and...this boy is in town now too.....nice record....


 
http://www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=200
 

I really like Make It Anywhere... he's nice!
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I would love to give Triple Vodka a try on my Grand-d of Firewater Flit, if I were looking to breeding my mare. But I would be looking more into the ruinning barrels part.   He's got alot of class 
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barrelracr131 - 2013-11-22 2:18 PM

BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-22 2:05 PM if your mare belonged to me and I was wanting to spend $3500+ on a foal. .. I would sell the mare and add her money to the $3500+ and go to the La yearling sale and buy me a well bred foal that has a dam that ran in the 90's and the 2nd and 3rd dams had high speed indexes and decent earnings too. The stallion get I would concentrate on would be this guy ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=141 I would buy a filly for me to race and then keep as a long term future broodmare ... GOOD LUCK ...

is that your final answer 

I looked at the mare's data given by the owner and it shows no babies since 2008 which tells me there is a problem with the mare getting in foal or carrying a foal.

I looked at the 3 winners that won a decent amount of money and then looked at how many years it took them and added up the cost by month of keeping them in race training along with the normal expenses not even counting the automatic 5- 10% each for jockey and trainer which made the owner in the red or showing only beer money for being the owner of any of these 3 horses.

There are a lot of good deals to be had in the 4k-7k price range at the La yearling sale ... the thing you have to remember is ... horses bred to run in La are very seldom successful outside of La and vice versa ... La tracks are heavy deep dirt and horses are bred to run in it vs the shallow hard fast surfaces in other states.

So.. what is the fuss?? Owner of the mare asked what we would do if we owned the mare.... and yes .. my answer still stands ... If I bought a well bred filly per my stallion pick I would be racing next year and not 3 years from now or having expensive mare problems if the mare does have problems per her breeding record ... ...

And if the filly could run out some money and speed index I would have a nice broodmare with current bloodlines to breed to the stallion of my choice that has been very successful on the track or breeding shed .... IMO.. This looks like a much brighter future than the other choice of breeding the mare.
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Posted 2013-11-22 10:27 PM
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LRQHS, you are EEEEEVIL!!! If you are going to post links to mares for sale, PLEASE put a warning for me NOT TO LOOK if there are Zan Parr Bar descendants. ESPECIALLY if they have Flit Bar on the other side of the pedigree!!!! Just saw that Flit to Kill daughter, that is out of a daughter of Zan Parr Deck. ( My broodmare is a daughter of Zan Parr Deck, out of Fire Water Flit daughter and i have been wanting 34689754 more bred similarly.)
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Posted 2013-11-22 11:46 PM
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If you want Louisiana bred, check out Corona Caliente who is now at Hart Farms! He is awesome and so are his colts.
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Posted 2013-11-23 7:04 AM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-22 9:07 PM
barrelracr131 - 2013-11-22 2:18 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-22 2:05 PM if your mare belonged to me and I was wanting to spend $3500+ on a foal. .. I would sell the mare and add her money to the $3500+ and go to the La yearling sale and buy me a well bred foal that has a dam that ran in the 90's and the 2nd and 3rd dams had high speed indexes and decent earnings too. The stallion get I would concentrate on would be this guy ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=141 I would buy a filly for me to race and then keep as a long term future broodmare ... GOOD LUCK ...
is that your final answer 
I looked at the mare's data given by the owner and it shows no babies since 2008 which tells me there is a problem with the mare getting in foal or carrying a foal. I looked at the 3 winners that won a decent amount of money and then looked at how many years it took them and added up the cost by month of keeping them in race training along with the normal expenses not even counting the automatic 5- 10% each for jockey and trainer which made the owner in the red or showing only beer money for being the owner of any of these 3 horses. There are a lot of good deals to be had in the 4k-7k price range at the La yearling sale ... the thing you have to remember is ... horses bred to run in La are very seldom successful outside of La and vice versa ... La tracks are heavy deep dirt and horses are bred to run in it vs the shallow hard fast surfaces in other states. So.. what is the fuss?? Owner of the mare asked what we would do if we owned the mare.... and yes .. my answer still stands ... If I bought a well bred filly per my stallion pick I would be racing next year and not 3 years from now or having expensive mare problems if the mare does have problems per her breeding record ... ... And if the filly could run out some money and speed index I would have a nice broodmare with current bloodlines to breed to the stallion of my choice that has been very successful on the track or breeding shed .... IMO.. This looks like a much brighter future than the other choice of breeding the mare.
she has a weanling and a yearling

easy breeder, no problems

There's a pic on pg 2... I had to go back and see what page it was on


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Posted 2013-11-23 9:37 AM
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Interesting thread. What I would advise for breeding for the track:
1) Look at the Speedhorse Stallion Register and see the average price of the yearlings of the stallions I was interested in (obviously you can't do this on Triple Vodka since he doesn't have any yet).
2) Take into consideration how much the stallion won and if he had a long career. Rarely do we breed to anything that hasn't won at leat $100,000. Reason being is that there are a lot of stallions out there that accomplished that mark so why breed to one that didn't? Unless he had a legitimate excuse that was no fault of his own (best example I know of is Pappasito because he was crippled by a joint infection). If a stallion simply didn't run because of lack of try or ability, do you really want to maybe get the same thing if you breed to him?
3) The dam of a stallion MUST be a black type producer and have a solid pedigree with black type in it. Historically very few stallions with no black type have gone on to be sires. The one exception I can think of off the top of my head would be Super De Kas. 
4) Do a pedigree research and see if historically horses that have the same basic pedigree as the resulting foal of this mating end up being successful. There is a reason why people always recommend something like Special Effort crossed on Dash For Cash. It's because time and time again that cross has been proven.

Have fun and best of luck in making your decision!
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Posted 2013-11-23 9:52 AM
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Thought I would add that in the case of Triple Vodka... while his dam is fairly young, she has already more than proven herself as a producer with the few she has had. 
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Bucky
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-11-23 10:10 AM
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http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=798

http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=561

These are two stallions I met in person and liked. The owner of these two stallions is a great guy!
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Posted 2013-11-23 10:19 AM
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I like Triple Vokda, I also like this young stallion. He is owned by a friend of ours (who is a BB here) and they sent him out to LA to breed. I loved watching him off the start, he was a rocket. He is on my too breed to list....
http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=1107
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Posted 2013-11-23 11:08 AM
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Do you want a race foal, a sale foal, or both? 
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kuhlmann - 2013-11-23 11:08 AM

Do you want a race foal, a sale foal, or both? 

I'd like it to be able to work either way.
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She likes First Down Dash, so I'd go to another son.

Fighter On Fire throws big, pretty babies and they look like runners.

Stoli has some considerations for early booking I believe.

Makr It Anywhere's numbers are hard to beat.

I would say Dashin Bye, but they flat don't sell worth anything...even when he was in LA, his averages stunk. They might bounce up a little, but I wouldn't count on it.

The 3 I listed are stallions I really like and respect...their foals also get some respect at sales and run. 
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Posted 2013-11-23 2:33 PM
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lmulrony - 2013-11-22 11:46 PM

If you want Louisiana bred, check out Corona Caliente who is now at Hart Farms! He is awesome and so are his colts.

I second this! Almost EVERY one of his siblings are making HUGE names for themselves. Corona Chick is a dam line I love, and you have your Dash for Cash line in there.... He's very affordable and your Louisiana bred. Corona Chick's foals all have great conformation too.

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ndiehl - 2013-11-23 2:33 PM

lmulrony - 2013-11-22 11:46 PM

If you want Louisiana bred, check out Corona Caliente who is now at Hart Farms! He is awesome and so are his colts.

I second this! Almost EVERY one of his siblings are making HUGE names for themselves. Corona Chick is a dam line I love, and you have your Dash for Cash line in there.... He's very affordable and your Louisiana bred. Corona Chick's foals all have great conformation too.

His numbers aren't that hot...which is why he is only 1500. I like him and think he'll have runners here and there, but he won't command a yearling price, nor is he a "good" bet for a race horse...he's a gamble. 
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Posted 2013-11-23 3:22 PM
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kuhlmann - 2013-11-23 3:12 PM

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lmulrony - 2013-11-22 11:46 PM

If you want Louisiana bred, check out Corona Caliente who is now at Hart Farms! He is awesome and so are his colts.

I second this! Almost EVERY one of his siblings are making HUGE names for themselves. Corona Chick is a dam line I love, and you have your Dash for Cash line in there.... He's very affordable and your Louisiana bred. Corona Chick's foals all have great conformation too.

His numbers aren't that hot...which is why he is only 1500. I like him and think he'll have runners here and there, but he won't command a yearling price, nor is he a "good" bet for a race horse...he's a gamble. 

I would choose Corona Czech or Captain Courage over him. But Captain Courage is out of her budget and there is no Dash For Cash. Corona Czech isn't Louisiana bred...

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ndiehl - 2013-11-23 3:22 PM

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ndiehl - 2013-11-23 2:33 PM

lmulrony - 2013-11-22 11:46 PM

If you want Louisiana bred, check out Corona Caliente who is now at Hart Farms! He is awesome and so are his colts.

I second this! Almost EVERY one of his siblings are making HUGE names for themselves. Corona Chick is a dam line I love, and you have your Dash for Cash line in there.... He's very affordable and your Louisiana bred. Corona Chick's foals all have great conformation too.

His numbers aren't that hot...which is why he is only 1500. I like him and think he'll have runners here and there, but he won't command a yearling price, nor is he a "good" bet for a race horse...he's a gamble. 

I would choose Corona Czech or Captain Courage over him. But Captain Courage is out of her budget and there is no Dash For Cash. Corona Czech isn't Louisiana bred...

Mighty Corona is a super cute horse...and he's in LA...and budget friendly...plus he should have a big crop of foals this spring, setting up yearling sake potential for breeding this spring (2014 foals will be running as 2yos when she goes to sell this one and they'll be running in LA). Caliente is in his 1st Louisiana season so you don't have that advantage. 
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willyturnit - 2013-11-22 1:45 PM You know I LOVE DASHIN BYE!!! Which  brings me to the fact you haven't found me a 3 year old by him yet!!!!!!  



But I'll forgive you I guess

Since you mentioned Dashin Bye I have to show you this pedigree.  My friend just got her a month or so ago.  I saw her a couple weeks ago and she's beautiful!

AUSTINISTA M, QUARTER HORSE, 2010
AUSTINISTA
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QUARTER HORSE
DASHIN BYE*
blk 1998
QUARTER HORSE
FIRST DOWN DASH*
sor 1984
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DASH FOR CASH*
sor 1973
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sor 1968
ROCKET BAR* ch 1951
GO GALLA GO* sor 1961
FIND A BUYER*
ch 1966
TO MARKET* ch 1948
HIDE AND SEEK ch 1952
FIRST PRIZE ROSE*
ch 1976
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GALLANT JET*
sor 1970
JET DECK*   b 1960
LEO JEWEL ch 1955
ROSE BUG*
sor 1971
LADY BUGS MOON* sor 15.2 1966
CASCO ROSE b 1960
SWEET BYE AND BYE
br 1992
QUARTER HORSE
ZEVI*
br 15.1 1973
THOROUGHBRED
CORNISH PRINCE
br 1962
BOLD RULER* br 1954
TELERAN blk 1954
SPIRE
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CARRY BACK br 16.1 1958
TORRECILLA b 1956
BYE BYE IMGONE
br 1982
QUARTER HORSE
OH SHINEY*
b 1976
THREE OHS* br 1966
SHINY SEQUIN gr 1966
DEEP TURN
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DEEP SUN* blk 1952
NEXT TURN b 1953
AUSTIANA
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QUARTER HORSE
STREAKIN LA JOLLA*
sor 1985
QUARTER HORSE
STREAKIN SIX*
sor 1977
QUARTER HORSE
EASY SIX*
sor 1972
EASY JET*   sor 1967
PEGGY TORO sor 1962
MISS ASSURED*
ch 1962
LITTLE REQUEST * ch 1950
ASSURED ch 1955
BOTTOMS UP
sor 1973
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RAISE YOUR GLASS*
ch 1968
RAISE A NATIVE* ch 16.2 1961
CHAMPAGNE WOMAN ch 1963
LA JOLLA
sor 1968
ST BAR* sor 1963
TOP PRETTY br 1950
MEGAMYSTERY
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DASH FOR CASH*
sor 1973
QUARTER HORSE
  ROCKET WRANGLER*
sor 1968
ROCKET BAR* ch 1951
GO GALLA GO* sor 1961
FIND A BUYER*
ch 1966
TO MARKET* ch 1948
HIDE AND SEEK ch 1952
EASY SECRET
br 1976
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EASY JET*
sor 1967
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LENAS BAR* ch 1954
GO SECRET GO
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GO MAN GO* ch rab. 1953
ITSASECRET b 1966
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Posted 2013-11-24 12:32 AM
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How about this gorgeous fellow?  http://www.hartfarms.net/?id=3&s=42 or this one? http://www.hartfarms.net/?id=3&s=17  They have some nice horses on there...love Stoli too...all you need to do is round up a little more loot.
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When I tell y'all this is a tough decision I mean it lol. I definitely appreciate all input. This mare has no breeding problems. Her only fault is me. I broke my arm and lost the drive I had, she has no breeding problems. This is such a hard decision. I have a stallion. I've been burned by some stallion farms mentioned. I know what the obvious choice is, but I'm being offered great deals by farm's attempting to prove their studs.....tough decision....I really do appreciate all input...thank you all.
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