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Location: Northern CA | The time has come to bite the bullet, and buy a new truck. I have always been a strictly diesel person, but I am wondering with the new trucks now adays, has anyone had good luck hauling with a gas pick up? I pull a light gooseneck, stock combo, and usually never more than 4 horses. My hubby has a diesel if heavier pulling is needed. Is there much of a difference in.....
1. purchase price
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Does that help? :) Plan on spending another 7-10k for a diesel engine, they do pull harder and better than a gas pickup (it's what diesel engines do best), the mileage is generally better than a gas but diesel is more expensive making it almost a wash, diesel engines are definitely costlier for upkeep - even basic stuff like oil changes, 10 qts. instead of 5, tires - should use at least 10-ply on a diesel cause they are heavier. Having said all that - do what is best for you. I use mine for my daily commuter - practical? No. But I like it. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Let's see.
Gas is $3.06 a gallon / 8 mpg = $.38 per mile cost
Diesel is $3.78 a gallon / 12 mpg = $.31 per mile.
Your saving $.07 per mile
You pay $10,000 more for the diesel.
$10,000 / $.07 = 142,857 loaded pulling miles to recoupe your money just on fuel.
If you have one diesel pickup now I would just buy a gas for the second truck.
I have an 02 and 06 F-350 diesels.
I just bought a new F-150 Eco-boost for my daily driver and I sure like each truck for what I need it for. |
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | Plan on a Diesel, yes it is more expensive but it is THEE BEST investment you will ever make, especially for hauling....you will save more on gas and they run FOREVER !!! if you take care of them.....I will probably start a war but I would suggest a Dodge first then Ford then Chevy. Just in my opinion, in the extra money you will spend now you will save later. |
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Location: Deep South | I switched from a diesel to a gas, I miss the diesel. We only use ours for hauling, we have other vehicles we use for daily driving. Those of you comparing getting a gas truck for daily driving to getting one for pulling, that's apples and oranges.
You'd be shocked how much power you lose. Even though you say you're not pulling a big trailer and only four horses at the most. You'll be able to tell a difference. I'm currently only hauling a three horse bumper pull and can tell a difference.
Diesel does cost more upfront, but will outlast a gas by a long shot.
Higher diesel prices, but they get better fuel mileage.
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Location: kentucky | We have been tossing around the idea of a gas engine also. We have a diesel now and have had to put a ton of money into it here in the past year. All I know is back in the early 90's we always had a gas chevy truck and we would throw 4, 5 or 6 horses in the metal stock trailer and go ! Never had any problems ! So why is it any different now ? Gas engines have only gotten more efficient, trailers are lighter, ect ...... And my diesel only gets 10 miles a gallon pulling ! |
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Location: WI | I have a gas and it's perfect for me! It's paid for and I only use it for hauling (~3000mi/yr) |
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Location: BFE, Idaho | I have had Ford diesels for the last 23 years, I have had great luck with them. But if you are a weekend warrior, or do not haul alot nor with a heavy rig they will not pay their way.
If you are going on long hauls, lots of miles and big loads. 4 horses or more, or a living quarters trailer then you are going to love the power. But it will never be cost effective. Just very power effective. Everything from oil changes to whatevers cost more for a diesel.
I only haul rarely now and with one or two horses, just sold my big F350 4 door dually, was a great truck but total waste of upkeep for me now. I am looking for a gas Excursion to pull my two horse. I am not looking at milage, but what I need in one vehicle to meet all my needs. |
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| BS Hauler - 2013-11-26 5:30 PM Let's see.
Gas is $3.06 a gallon / 8 mpg = $.38 per mile cost
Diesel is $3.78 a gallon / 12 mpg = $.31 per mile.
Your saving $.07 per mile
You pay $10,000 more for the diesel.
$10,000 / $.07 = 142,857 loaded pulling miles to recoupe your money just on fuel.
If you have one diesel pickup now I would just buy a gas for the second truck.
I have an 02 and 06 F-350 diesels.
I just bought a new F-150 Eco-boost for my daily driver and I sure like each truck for what I need it for.
I get 15-17 mpg hauling with my gas truck |
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| we have a Dodge gas truck and a Ford diesel. I just bought the gas truck and I hate it. It gets 12.7mpg and my husband's giant F350 dually gets 15-17 towing a trailer. My Dodge feels like it's plastic and will break with my 3 horse BP and my two fat-butt mares and my yearling. I DON'T even want to know what it will haul like with the huge gelding in it with the mares, instead. The one thing I do like, though is that what costs him $1600 only costs me $400. Otherwise I would get rid of it...I don't think it's a Dodge vs. Ford thing, either. But more of a diesel cost vs. gasoline power cost.
And whoever said gas was $3.07 and diesel $3.76...WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I NEED TO MOVE THERE!! LOL |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | aqhabarrelchic1 - 2013-11-25 11:13 PM BS Hauler - 2013-11-26 5:30 PM Let's see.
Gas is $3.06 a gallon / 8 mpg = $.38 per mile cost
Diesel is $3.78 a gallon / 12 mpg = $.31 per mile.
Your saving $.07 per mile
You pay $10,000 more for the diesel.
$10,000 / $.07 = 142,857 loaded pulling miles to recoupe your money just on fuel.
If you have one diesel pickup now I would just buy a gas for the second truck.
I have an 02 and 06 F-350 diesels.
I just bought a new F-150 Eco-boost for my daily driver and I sure like each truck for what I need it for. I get 15-17 mpg hauling with my gas truck
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| I miss my diesel, I currently haul 4 horses regularly to races in a gas, I break about even with cost of fuel for both but the power, I have no power what so ever and I hate it. My diesel got 20 mpg hauling my gas only gets about 10/12 |
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| Nevertooold - 2013-11-26 9:19 PM aqhabarrelchic1 - 2013-11-25 11:13 PM BS Hauler - 2013-11-26 5:30 PM Let's see.
Gas is $3.06 a gallon / 8 mpg = $.38 per mile cost
Diesel is $3.78 a gallon / 12 mpg = $.31 per mile.
Your saving $.07 per mile
You pay $10,000 more for the diesel.
$10,000 / $.07 = 142,857 loaded pulling miles to recoupe your money just on fuel.
If you have one diesel pickup now I would just buy a gas for the second truck.
I have an 02 and 06 F-350 diesels.
I just bought a new F-150 Eco-boost for my daily driver and I sure like each truck for what I need it for. I get 15-17 mpg hauling with my gas truck
but im not stupid i wouldnt haul a huge trailer with a gas lol....i would have loved to get a diesel but i couldnt afford it... it was 20k vs38k for a older truck
for my boss i drove a 03 ford that got 5 mpg diesel and had no power with a big trailer or with my little trailer lol
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
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Location: southeast Texas | RodeoCowgirl4u - 2013-11-25 11:15 PM we have a Dodge gas truck and a Ford diesel. I just bought the gas truck and I hate it. It gets 12.7mpg and my husband's giant F350 dually gets 15-17 towing a trailer. My Dodge feels like it's plastic and will break with my 3 horse BP and my two fat-butt mares and my yearling. I DON'T even want to know what it will haul like with the huge gelding in it with the mares, instead. The one thing I do like, though is that what costs him $1600 only costs me $400. Otherwise I would get rid of it...I don't think it's a Dodge vs. Beaumont Ford thing, either. But more of a diesel cost vs. gasoline power cost. And whoever said gas was $3.07 and diesel $3.76...WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I NEED TO MOVE THERE!! LOL
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Location: Midwest | I have a 2500 HD silverado GAS and I absolutely hate it. I spend about $100 or more a week on gas. Thank god I have a job I do very well in or else idk how I would get by!! I am currently looking for a diesel. All my best friends have diesels and they are 150% worth it!!! |
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| mbellos11 - 2013-11-26 7:43 AM
I have a 2500 HD silverado GAS and I absolutely hate it. I spend about $100 or more a week on gas. Thank god I have a job I do very well in or else idk how I would get by!! I am currently looking for a diesel. All my best friends have diesels and they are 150% worth it!!!
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Location: Midwest | We have a 2012 F-250, Gas
It hauls really nice and we don't go the distance to make a diesel worth it for us. The motor handles everything we do very well and has pulled some very heavy equipment (for my husband's business) as needed with no issues. We are both pretty impressed with it's power.
Hauling, I usually get 10-12 mpg. It's about the same driving...but if you do lots of highway miles, you can get up to 15-16 with if using the cruise. I don't have any complaints with it so far. |
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Location: Up and over to the right | I pull an aluminium 3H bp with a '13 F250 diesel and I'll never go back to gas.
The only downside is fuel, since it is over $4.35 by me at the moment. But I'll that over my guzzling Silverado any day. |
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Location: Midwest | ChasingCans04 - 2013-11-26 8:28 AM I pull an aluminium 3H bp with a '13 F250 diesel and I'll never go back to gas. The only downside is fuel, since it is over $4.35 by me at the moment. But I'll that over my guzzling Silverado any day.
What kind of mpg's are you getting with the diesel? And how do you like the new motor thus far? |
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Location: Kentucky | As far as trucks.... we will probably never own a gas truck to do any hauling with. It's one of those things where when you go diesel, you don't go back. They are more expensive to purchase, fuel, and parts/labor. But IMO, they are worth it. |
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| Each truck serves its purpose. You just have to compare your needs to the purpose of the truck.
My husband and I started out with gas trucks. Our first truck my husband actually had when I started dating him. It was a 1996 F-250 gas with 340,000 miles on it! It kicked the bucket the transmission went before the engine (it was original engine, transmission had been replaced at some point prior)...but my husband paid $2,500 for it-couldn't beat it!
When that happened we traded it in for a 2007 GMC 3/4 ton gas truck. We could not afford the upkeep or payment of a diesel at the time-and didn't need more truck as we just had a dressing room three horse trailer.
Last year we went all out-traded for a 2008 1 ton Dodge and then six months after bought a living quarters trailer.
The diesel is more upkeep when we haul it only gets 10 mpg, BUT we could not have pulled our current trailer with our previous truck. That truck got about 8 or 9 when we hauled.
When we are not hauling we get about 18 mpg.
I love the diesel for what we need it for-hauling power.
If you don't need it, then save your money and get a gas truck. They serve their purpose too. 454's are good strong engines. If you already have a diesel available as needed, why have two to keep up with?
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM
We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
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| mruggles - 2013-11-26 9:59 AM Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
I honestly have never seen a 3/4 ton dually....I didnt know they made them..interestingM
I don't know that they are made that way by the big 3 (maybe, I don't know).
There are some 3/4 tons that have been modified though. We had one a LOOONNNG time ago.
Also, I saw a newer Ford F150 modified to be a dually. I'm serious.
To answer the OP's question...
If you are looking to do a ton of hauling with a larger trailer, a diesel will probably be best.
If you are only hauling sparingly with a BP or small GN, and need the truck to be your daily driver, gas might be better.
Honestly, for me, the upkeep for a diesel would simply be too much. I know that for a lot of people it's worth it, but it wouldn't be to me.
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Needless to say we didnt keep the gas truck long and went right back to a Diesel and have not ever thought twice about it! JMO! |
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| mbellos11 - 2013-11-27 5:43 AM I have a 2500 HD silverado GAS and I absolutely hate it. I spend about $100 or more a week on gas. Thank god I have a job I do very well in or else idk how I would get by!! I am currently looking for a diesel. All my best friends have diesels and they are 150% worth it!!!
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2013-11-27 7:10 AM mruggles - 2013-11-26 9:59 AM Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
I honestly have never seen a 3/4 ton dually....I didnt know they made them..interestingM
There are some 3/4 tons that have been modified though. We had one a LOOONNNG time ago.
Also, I saw a newer Ford F150 modified to be a dually. I'm serious.
To answer the OP's question...
If you are looking to do a ton of hauling with a larger trailer, a diesel will probably be best.
If you are only hauling sparingly with a BP or small GN, and need the truck to be your daily driver, gas might be better.
Honestly, for me, the upkeep for a diesel would simply be too much. I know that for a lot of people it's worth it, but it wouldn't be to me.
my dad has a 3/4 ton diesel gmc and i absolutly love it..... lol....
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Location: Northern CA | Thank you guys. I kind of had the feeling we would have to stick with a diesel, just looking to not have to take out a mortgage on a dang truck! Can't believe the price of them, even the used ones!
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| I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep.
My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference.
For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices.
Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it.
Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for
My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it.
The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
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Location: Kentucky | I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Murphy - 2013-11-26 2:38 PM I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins.
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Location: Kentucky | Nevertooold - 2013-11-26 3:46 PM Murphy - 2013-11-26 2:38 PM I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins. Dodge Hater..
LOL - no, not at all. I have some close friends that are big Dodge people. In fact, we are helping them with parts in building a pulling truck. I know from them that paying 10k-20k for a 12v is too much. One of them just bought a super nice 12v with low miles for $8500 and he said he even said he paid too much for it. |
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Location: southeast Texas | cheryl makofka - 2013-11-26 2:35 PM I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep. My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference. For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices. Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it. Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it. The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
$120 to change oil. .??? Golly where is that? Doesnt cost that much down here. My guy uses rotella. |
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Location: College Station, TX | I have had both and was not happy pulling with the gas. (All were Chevy/gmc) I got around 9 or 10 pulling.
Got an 04 Chevy diesel and got about 22 highway, and 13 pulling. Injectors blew out at 150k so I got rid of it.
Now have an 09 GMC diesel... All I can say is DO NOT GET A GMC. I'm not happy with how it pulls, sometimes I can get 11 pulling, but usually 8 is something to be happy about and I get about 16 on the highway not pulling. I have owned it 10 months, yesterday made trip 10 to the shop (I need a frequent buyer card with the dealership service department and the tow truck company!) and it has to go back again tomorrow. It is by far the worst vehicle I have ever owned, and I would drive a gas truck before I got another duramax. I have heard the new ones are better, but with my experience with this one I wouldn't recommend them to anyone, and am too scared to buy another. It's been an awful experience.
That said, I'm currently in the market for a ford or a dodge! |
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Location: Land Of Oz | After pulling with a diesel, I will never go back to gas if I can help it. I pull a 3 horse steel GN trailer w/an '06 Chevy 3/4 ton and I can hardly tell it's back there. |
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Location: Kansas | I have a 2500HD, (gas) I love it but I hate it.....I should of bought the duramax when I had the chance
Pulling power, I do love my truck. I hauled a friends 4 horse slant loaded full with horses and my truck didn't once struggle getting up to speed. It's gritty, and tough....Just wish I got better gas mileage |
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2013-11-26 2:35 PM I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep. My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference. For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices. Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it. Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it. The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
Me either.  We change our own oil so we never need to worry about the cost of that but for other mechanical issues they all cost money whether a gas or diesel. The only big difference would be if the engine went out but that doesn't happen all too often. So it's not like it is your "normal upkeep." I would say for your money a diesel would be the best way to go because they hold their value and I feel you would be happier pulling. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I went from diesel to gas (not by choice). I had a Ford 6.O and when we took the POS back to trade it the only thing in our price range that could do what we wanted was the Chevy with the 8.1. Now I love my Chevy and it can pull a house down but the MPG is horrible. Eventually we will prob go back to diesel. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | roxieannie - 2013-11-27 1:57 PM
cheryl makofka - 2013-11-26 2:35 PM I don't know is what the difference between gas verses diesel upkeep. My diesel truck it costs about 120 to change the oil, the other halfs gas truck costs about 100 to change the oil, pricing is not much different on fuel filters, transmission, did fluid, etc. maybe 20-30 dollars top difference. For wheel bearings, tie rod ends, u joints all similar prices. Diesels are made to last forever if you maintain the, right, and I do know when things start going wrong it can get expensive, once you fix it you will get lots of miles out of it. Resale value is very different, I know there are specific older dodge diesels especially the 12 valve people are paying 10-20k for My dodge truck is a 2006 I bought it used in 2009 and the blue book price is still more then I paid. If I choose to sell my truck I could make money on it. The other halfs 2006 gas truck is worth nothing, he might be able to get 4 k for it, so he might as well drive it till it dies.
$120 to change oil. .??? Golly where is that? Doesnt cost that much down here. My guy uses rotella.
That is what it costs up here to get oil changed on a diesel..some places are 150 and I used to be able to change the oilon my ford but the dodge I cant as you need a certain wrench or some such nonsenseM |
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| Long story about our truck...
BUT we were given an extended warranty to an extra 100,000 miles that covers anything major other than maintanence on the truck.
BECAUSE of this we have to have the truck maintained through the dealership...IE the warranty company requires this-so if anything were to break as long as we have GOOD record of it (if we did the oil change ourselves it would be difficult to have good records of that) so we spend $120 on our oil changes.
This is what makes it more expensive. Luckily-my husband works for Cummins Filtration. He gets all the filters for $1.00 a box!!! We bring the filters into the dealership and it cuts costs a bit for us. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | mruggles - 2013-11-26 8:59 AM Fairweather - 2013-11-27 2:42 AM We pull with a gas engine - 3/4 ton heavy duty dually. We have less than $10k in it.
During show season we'll haul 2-3x a month usually no more than 2 hours away. I'll haul 3-4 in a 16' aluminum stock trailer. I also haul out a few times a month to the farrier and to practice.
The furtherst we've pulled was to Ft. Smith (10 hours) and we pulled a 1980's Steel living quarters with 4 big horses. It made the trip to Jackson this past weekend as well pulling that same trailer and load -- it averages around 7 miles per gallon pulling that trailer.
The reason we bought a gas engine is that it's a lot cheaper to work on. Unless you buy new, there's going to be things that will need to be worked on here and there and when you start working on diesals it gets very expensive very quick. Plus, it's easier for most people to work on a gas engine anyhow.
I honestly have never seen a 3/4 ton dually....I didnt know they made them..interestingM
I posted this morning at 4am before I was fully awake, apparently.
It is a 1 ton, not a 3/4 ton.  The truck we had sold to buy this one was a 3/4 single axle heavy duty. I've seen heavy duty 3/4 ton dually trucks and yes, they're older models.
Here's a pic pulling to FT Smith -- you can see how heavy that trailer was. Didn't break any speed records but there sure isn't anybody pulling that sounds like it.
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Location: Up and over to the right | barrelracr131 - 2013-11-26 9:29 AM
ChasingCans04 - 2013-11-26 8:28 AM I pull an aluminium 3H bp with a '13 F250 diesel and I'll never go back to gas. The only downside is fuel, since it is over $4.35 by me at the moment. But I'll that over my guzzling Silverado any day.
What kind of mpg's are you getting with the diesel? And how do you like the new motor thus far?
Love Love Love the new motor, I don't even feel the trailer when I haul. We used to pull with a '02 F250 diesel manual but it became "retired" as a hay/farm truck. While I love my manuals, it just didn't pull as well as the automatic does. For the new guy I average around 15-17 mpg empty and 11-12 mpg pulling 1 horse in the 3 horse. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Murphy - 2013-11-26 2:38 PM
I don't know of anyone that would pay 10-20k for a 12v Cummins.
Alberta, is where you can expect to pay over 10k for 12 valve dodge.
And for the person who commented on oil changes Alberta you pay for everything, our diesel is 1.23 per litre which is over 4 per gallon
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| The other things that are nice about the diesels (unless they have started making them in gas engines too) is the tow haul and engine brake options. We own a 2009 dodge diesel 1 ton and a 2012 GMC 1 ton duramax. They are both great pulling machines. I would not go back to gas. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Personally, I'll go gas 3/4 ton, but for a 1ton, diesel for me. Reason is mostly resale. Even the 3/4 ton gas burners are hard to sell. But I can find a better deal in a gas truck. I've had good luck hauling with a gas 3/4 ton. But, with the lower mileage, I have to stop for gas every 200-250 miles! That gets old really quick! But, it's just inconvenient. It's less convenient paying double the truck note right now.
To me, the low purchase price offsets the lower fuel mileage (dollar-wise). Not a big difference pulling a light trailer. Like someone else mentioned, it'll be a long time before the fuel cost catches up to the savings in purchase price. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Nita - 2013-11-27 9:59 AM Personally, I'll go gas 3/4 ton, but for a 1ton, diesel for me. Reason is mostly resale. Even the 3/4 ton gas burners are hard to sell. But I can find a better deal in a gas truck. I've had good luck hauling with a gas 3/4 ton. But, with the lower mileage, I have to stop for gas every 200-250 miles! That gets old really quick! But, it's just inconvenient. It's less convenient paying double the truck note right now. To me, the low purchase price offsets the lower fuel mileage (dollar-wise). Not a big difference pulling a light trailer. Like someone else mentioned, it'll be a long time before the fuel cost catches up to the savings in purchase price.
yep, that's why we have the gas as well. I don't pull enough to justify the additional cost of a diesel. |
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