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I need a scar tissue expert
CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2013-11-27 7:23 PM
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 Is there any way to lesson the appearance or improve the elasticity of scar tissue on a horse's leg? I'll listen to old wives' tales, veternarians, holistic healers, and witch doctors. 
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-11-27 7:43 PM
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sometimes laser will help it and we have done accupuncture on neck and poll..  
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2013-11-27 8:09 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2013-11-27 7:43 PM sometimes laser will help it and we have done accupuncture on neck and poll..  

 Using laser. It doesn't seem to help.
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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2013-11-27 8:12 PM
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Have the vet inject vetalog into it.  
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sugargal
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2013-11-27 9:03 PM
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Can you be more specific about the scar tissue?  (location, size, cause, firmness
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-27 9:27 PM
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sugargal - 2013-11-27 9:03 PM Can you be more specific about the scar tissue?  (location, size, cause, firmness

Good questions.  
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2013-11-28 10:45 AM
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Pretty much entire lower hind limb from a fence injury. Front of leg below hock. 
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wishes4kissez
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2013-11-28 10:46 AM
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I am not expert by any means but my favorite mare has some scar tissue on the inside of one of her front legs from sliding a leg under a tie stall and ripping it out skinning her leg as a youngster. It really doesnt bother her and she is never been lame. I was told I could try to massage is and break it down but that if it isnt an issue not to mess with it so I havent. She is a tough as nails type horse though and would probably run on three legs like it was normal if you cut one off.
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destinypenny17
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2013-11-28 11:14 AM
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I have a horse that had a bad injury and now has scar tissue on her leg I just rub it everyday when she is eating and it is slowly breaking it down. Also did the laser and seen no diffrence.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-11-28 12:00 PM
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for that big of area it probrably would not work as well.. no ..  
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2013-11-28 1:09 PM
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What type of massage stroke is best?
 
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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2013-11-28 1:33 PM
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I have one that is healing from a fence injury that will leave scarring over the front of the hock. Interested to hear more suggestions.
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old timey barrel rac
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-11-28 3:51 PM
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I have used with 100% results , PINK LADY. Comes in a small bottle, has a swab so is easy to use, I have used it on a nasty back leg old scar that one of my mares came with (I know the scar was over 9 years old when I started treating her), took awhile but after maybe 2 months of twice a day treatments, it has all haired over. Also have used it on resent scars and it haired over very quickly..not expensive, looks like pepto bismol, And to keep the older scar soft and pliable, I also massage the scar-- especially 2-3 days before running her-- with a cream--so it doesnt stay stiff and she can use it like nothing happened to her...good luck...
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2013-11-29 11:29 AM
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old timey barrel rac - 2013-11-28 3:51 PM I have used with 100% results , PINK LADY. Comes in a small bottle, has a swab so is easy to use, I have used it on a nasty back leg old scar that one of my mares came with (I know the scar was over 9 years old when I started treating her), took awhile but after maybe 2 months of twice a day treatments, it has all haired over. Also have used it on resent scars and it haired over very quickly..not expensive, looks like pepto bismol, And to keep the older scar soft and pliable, I also massage the scar-- especially 2-3 days before running her-- with a cream--so it doesnt stay stiff and she can use it like nothing happened to her...good luck...

Off to google pink lady
 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-11-29 1:49 PM
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old timey barrel rac
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-11-29 2:07 PM
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Please let me know what you find out after you google Pink Lady,,,it was told to me years ago by some rodeo friends of mine that swore by it, and after using it, I too keep it in my barn. I figure if it worked on that mares old old scar she had, it will work on anything--and it doesnt sting them either...oh yes, the cream I put on her to keep it soft and pliable is Corona--another reasonable ointment I always have on hand and also keep it in my trailer....I sincerely hope this helps who ever is in need of it and am confident it will work for them as it did me...
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2013-11-29 3:22 PM
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old timey barrel rac - 2013-11-29 2:07 PM Please let me know what you find out after you google Pink Lady,,,it was told to me years ago by some rodeo friends of mine that swore by it, and after using it, I too keep it in my barn. I figure if it worked on that mares old old scar she had, it will work on anything--and it doesnt sting them either...oh yes, the cream I put on her to keep it soft and pliable is Corona--another reasonable ointment I always have on hand and also keep it in my trailer....I sincerely hope this helps who ever is in need of it and am confident it will work for them as it did me...

 Only website I found explains it but doesn't sell it. I assume only vets can buy it? ?  ?

Don't google Pink Lady unless you want to poke your eyes out.
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old timey barrel rac
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-11-29 4:16 PM
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Not a 'vet' thing, I get it at my local feed store and if they dont carry it where you live , just ask them to order it for you, its an amazing product, one that truly works-for a change--
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Jinx
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2013-11-29 4:36 PM
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CanCan - 2013-11-29 3:22 PM
old timey barrel rac - 2013-11-29 2:07 PM Please let me know what you find out after you google Pink Lady,,,it was told to me years ago by some rodeo friends of mine that swore by it, and after using it, I too keep it in my barn. I figure if it worked on that mares old old scar she had, it will work on anything--and it doesnt sting them either...oh yes, the cream I put on her to keep it soft and pliable is Corona--another reasonable ointment I always have on hand and also keep it in my trailer....I sincerely hope this helps who ever is in need of it and am confident it will work for them as it did me...
 Only website I found explains it but doesn't sell it. I assume only vets can buy it? ?  ?



Don't google Pink Lady unless you want to poke your eyes out.

http://www.medi-vet.com/Pink-Lady-Wound-Dressing-p/17050.htm

http://www.vetdepot.com/pink-lady.html

http://www.jefferspet.com/pink-lady/camid/equ/cp/0040754/


 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-11-30 8:11 AM
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When you say "scar tissue" are you basing that on the scar on the skin? Are you assuming it is impeding the function of the tendons in the lower leg?
How do you know that the outer scar implies the inner function is impaired?
I don't think there is a heck of a lot you can really do except exercise. Things like this are a snake oil salesman's dream, because they can convince you that there are countless remedies, but the truth is that the best way to maintain normal function is exercise and stretching. What is your goal? Are we talking "function" or "cosmetic appearance"?
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2013-12-02 9:30 AM
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old timey barrel rac - 2013-11-28 3:51 PM

I have used with 100% results , PINK LADY. Comes in a small bottle, has a swab so is easy to use, I have used it on a nasty back leg old scar that one of my mares came with (I know the scar was over 9 years old when I started treating her), took awhile but after maybe 2 months of twice a day treatments, it has all haired over. Also have used it on resent scars and it haired over very quickly..not expensive, looks like pepto bismol, And to keep the older scar soft and pliable, I also massage the scar-- especially 2-3 days before running her-- with a cream--so it doesnt stay stiff and she can use it like nothing happened to her...good luck...

Does that heal scar tissue or just scars?
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2013-12-02 9:33 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-11-30 8:11 AM

When you say "scar tissue" are you basing that on the scar on the skin? Are you assuming it is impeding the function of the tendons in the lower leg?
How do you know that the outer scar implies the inner function is impaired?
I don't think there is a heck of a lot you can really do except exercise. Things like this are a snake oil salesman's dream, because they can convince you that there are countless remedies, but the truth is that the best way to maintain normal function is exercise and stretching. What is your goal? Are we talking "function" or "cosmetic appearance"?

I'm wondering the same thing...are you wanting to lessen the appearance of a scar, or actual scar tissue below the surface? You can have scar tissue with no scar on the skin, so I don't understand how a topical dressing would affect it.
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sassy&tessa
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-12-02 9:48 AM
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Shock wave worked wonders on Grasshopper.  Pre-accident.  He had a scar on the back of his front left foot.  It kind of wrapped around and then went down through his hoof wall.  Didn't really effect him but he had a bit of a different gate.  We did two treatments and he was a different horse.  The scar itself actually healed up considerably.

We may do shock wave on Lilly but I want to see what rehab does for her and then I will decide on that.  I am a fan that is for sure.  it is expensive but IMO worth it if the scar is bothersome to the horse. 
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2013-12-02 9:54 AM
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IMHO time and exercise break down scar tissue as well as anything else.   
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-12-02 9:55 AM
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There is nothing that will "heal" scar tissue

I have experience with scar tissue all the way through my thumb. Chopping kindling a couple years ago, I put a hammer hatchet clean through it... cutting through the top most joint and pretty much down the length of the finger. I narrowly missed the nerve. It was pretty bad. I have functional use of the finger thanks to my excellent surgeon and the PT.

Basically, you can get the tissue more supple with stretching and excercise, or in the cases where it invades the joint capsule, they can surgically remove it. That's sort of a last resort for people...and I'm not sure if they do that for animals myself.  

Myself I have some mild numbness around the scar itself, and decreased range of motion due to the scarring. I consider myself very lucky, since I basically made a tunnel out of my thumb. One year post injury I have no pain, though I'm expecting arthritis to occur when i get older.
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-12-02 9:56 AM
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Gunner11 - 2013-12-02 8:33 AM
HotbearLVR - 2013-11-30 8:11 AM When you say "scar tissue" are you basing that on the scar on the skin? Are you assuming it is impeding the function of the tendons in the lower leg? How do you know that the outer scar implies the inner function is impaired? I don't think there is a heck of a lot you can really do except exercise. Things like this are a snake oil salesman's dream, because they can convince you that there are countless remedies, but the truth is that the best way to maintain normal function is exercise and stretching. What is your goal? Are we talking "function" or "cosmetic appearance"?
I'm wondering the same thing...are you wanting to lessen the appearance of a scar, or actual scar tissue below the surface? You can have scar tissue with no scar on the skin, so I don't understand how a topical dressing would affect it.
Agree- and how old is this scar?  I have a mare who threw both hind legs through a sucker rod fence and we had to cut her out of it.  We kept her wounds wrapped as long as we could, trying to inhibit scars from forming, and then when it was no longer improving we started using corona to keep them soft.  Her wounds were very deep- and now a year later, most of the swelling is gone, but she still has small scars on both hind legs below her hocks.  Her function isn't bothered at all, so we don't mind.  As far as cosmetics go, your best chance of inhibiting scar formation is in the earliest days/weeks of the injury.  As far as decreasing scar tissue in an old wound that is restricting full range of movement, I agree with the shockwave, microcurrent and massage route. 

Edited by trickster j 2013-12-02 9:57 AM
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-02 10:05 AM
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Pink Lady wound dressing is available on Amazon.com  for cosmetic external scars, Corona might work for you though.

Good old fashioned massage to keep internal scar tissue broken up is the best route, otherwise you get adhesions that cause pain and stiffness to the area.  One of the best 1D horses we ever ran was scarred pretty bad from being run through a fence as a baby (before we had him) 2D without massage therapy, solid 1D with regularly done professional equine massage. 


Edited by runs4fun 2013-12-02 10:11 AM
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ladyjockey
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-12-02 10:09 AM
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I use pure caster oil from health food store, it works
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-12-02 10:15 AM
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Also, I used a product called "muscle mend" by burts bees...all natural menthol topical...I'm sure they have a horse equivalent. i would use that after physical therapy to help with soreness on myself. 
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