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Ford & Trailer Brakes
mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-11-30 7:34 PM
Subject: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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Has anyone else had the problem of your Ford and trailer not working together? It is throwing trailer failure, lights work just fine. We will be driving and have to hit the brakes and trailer failure will show up or it might just show up when we plug the trailer in to the truck. It might go away and may not work for awhile or may not show up at all on a small trip. What could be the issue? This is a newer trailer. Note: We have replaced the plug and checked all the magnates on the trailer brakes.
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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-11-30 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes "duplicate"



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did not mean for this to post twice.
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2013-11-30 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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Try running a temporary ground wire from the truck to the trailer if this stops the problem you have a bad ground on the truck. This happened on my truck and that is what it was. Bad ground from truck bed to frame.
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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-11-30 7:53 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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jbhoot - 2013-11-30 8:48 PM

Try running a temporary ground wire from the truck to the trailer if this stops the problem you have a bad ground on the truck. This happened on my truck and that is what it was. Bad ground from truck bed to frame.

thanks, we have done that. still does the same thing.
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blyellowrose
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2013-11-30 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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 did you blow a fuse?
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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-11-30 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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blyellowrose - 2013-11-30 9:07 PM

 did you blow a fuse?

nope, fuses are good.
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euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-11-30 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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I fixed ours by spreading the prongs in the female plug.  If it is the new big round plug push the connector toward the center on the male plug with a flat screw driver. 
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cowgirlchic
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-11-30 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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By any chance is it a 6.0?

My truck beeps like crazy saying my trailer is disconnected at random times going down the road. REALLY scares me to death but every time we've checked it, it's fine. There's a short somewhere, just can't find it. 
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2013-11-30 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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On my 2006 with the built in trailer brake, I only have brakes if I use the hand valve, most of the time it they do not work off of the brake pedal. I took it to Ford's twice under warranty and they told me the problem was in my trailer,..... even tho' I had the same issue with hubby's trailer.

Hubby monkeyed around with the brake light/position switch a couple of times and they would work for a trip or two, then nada. Dealership told me that it was probably a bad switch so I replaced it....still the same. Piffs me off to no end. Would really like to have trailer brakes for hauling this winter. Grrrr!!
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2013-11-30 11:49 PM
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Get you a steel wire brush that looks like a big toothbrush or one to go into an electric drill and shine up the inside of the gooseneck connection and the ball in the truck ..... then put you a glob of grease up in the goose neck connection ..... this is your major ground connection between trailer and truck ...... and hopefully everything will work correctly ...

Also.. keep in mind if your trailer is aluminum .... spray some WD-40 on every ground wire you see at each light, on the steel bolts of the gooseneck where it is welded to the aluminum trailer ..... into any connection you can find .... aluminum will grow al oxide or scales with any foreign metal it comes in contact with ... it is called electrolysis ... this is what eats holes in your aluminum floors ...

Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2013-12-01 12:03 AM
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DD2012
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-12-01 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes


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BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-30 11:49 PM

Get you a steel wire brush that looks like a big toothbrush or one to go into an electric drill and shine up the inside of the gooseneck connection and the ball in the truck ..... then put you a glob of grease up in the goose neck connection ..... this is your major ground connection between trailer and truck ...... and hopefully everything will work correctly ...

Also.. keep in mind if your trailer is aluminum .... spray some WD-40 on every ground wire you see at each light, on the steel bolts of the gooseneck where it is welded to the aluminum trailer ..... into any connection you can find .... aluminum will grow al oxide or scales with any foreign metal it comes in contact with ... it is called electrolysis ... this is what eats holes in your aluminum floors ...

Galvanic Corrosion not Electrolysis


Oxidation is what causes the holes in the floor brought about by corrisives in Urine, water and feces.

And if the truck and trailer are properly grounded then the "ball" hitch is not the main ground.


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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-12-01 8:46 AM
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cowgirlchic - 2013-11-30 10:35 PM

By any chance is it a 6.0?

My truck beeps like crazy saying my trailer is disconnected at random times going down the road. REALLY scares me to death but every time we've checked it, it's fine. There's a short somewhere, just can't find it. 

it's the 6.0
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cowgirlchic
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-12-01 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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It must be a 6.0 thing then. My 6.0 is the truck that it does it on. It doesn't do it on the 7.3
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della
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-12-01 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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cowgirlchic - 2013-12-01 10:11 AM

It must be a 6.0 thing then. My 6.0 is the truck that it does it on. It doesn't do it on the 7.3

 never have a lick of trouble with our 6.0. We did rewire the truck for a box plug though.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2013-12-01 2:21 PM
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DD2012 - 2013-12-01 6:54 AM

BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-11-30 11:49 PM

Get you a steel wire brush that looks like a big toothbrush or one to go into an electric drill and shine up the inside of the gooseneck connection and the ball in the truck ..... then put you a glob of grease up in the goose neck connection ..... this is your major ground connection between trailer and truck ...... and hopefully everything will work correctly ...

Also.. keep in mind if your trailer is aluminum .... spray some WD-40 on every ground wire you see at each light, on the steel bolts of the gooseneck where it is welded to the aluminum trailer ..... into any connection you can find .... aluminum will grow al oxide or scales with any foreign metal it comes in contact with ... it is called electrolysis ... this is what eats holes in your aluminum floors ...

Galvanic Corrosion not Electrolysis


Oxidation is what causes the holes in the floor brought about by corrisives in Urine, water and feces.

And if the truck and trailer are properly grounded then the "ball" hitch is not the main ground.



Oh Lord ... galvanic corrosion is the result after electrolysis has taken its toll on two dissimilar metals that create an electrical current between the two and influenced by other outside sources of electrical current (DC) or chemicals laden with salt (pee) ... per the following ....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

An electrical potential is applied across a pair of electrodes immersed in the electrolyte.

Each electrode attracts ions that are of the opposite charge. Positively charged ions (cations) move towards the electron-providing (negative) cathode, whereas negatively charged ions (anions) move towards the positive anode.

At the electrodes, electrons are absorbed or released by the atoms and ions. Those atoms that gain or lose electrons to become charged ions pass into the electrolyte. Those ions that gain or lose electrons to become uncharged atoms separate from the electrolyte. The formation of uncharged atoms from ions is called discharging.

The energy required to cause the ions to migrate to the electrodes, and the energy to cause the change in ionic state, is provided by the external source of electrical potential. *********************************************************************
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Ask the Navy what they think about their new aluminum warships that some idiot forgot would be running in salt water .. ... lol .........................................>>>>>>>>>>

There are technical terms for this kind of disintegration. Austal USA, Independence‘s Alabama-based builder, calls it “galvanic corrosion.”

Civilian scientists know it as “electrolysis.” It’s what occurs when “two dissimilar metals, after being in electrical contact with one another, corrode at different rates,” Austal explained in a statement.

“That suggests to me the metal is completely gone, not rusted,” naval analyst Raymond Pritchett wrote of Independence‘s problem.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/shipbuilder-blames-navy-as-...

Preventing galvanic corrosion is a vital consideration when installing an onboard electric system. Galvanic corrosion is the corroding of metal under the influence of an electric current. Every type of metal has a difference in potential with respect to other metals. If components made of two different metals are dipped into a liquid conductor (electrolyte) and short-circuited, a (low) current will flow between them. This will result in corrosion of the metal with the lowest potential, eventually dissolving it completely by electrolysis. .................................................... I hope you appreciate the information from a physics and chemistry engineer .....


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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-12-01 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: Ford & Trailer Brakes



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