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BHN needs an EDITOR that can SPELL
hotpaints
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Posted 2013-12-01 7:45 AM
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This problem is much greater than a personal pet peeve. LOOK at the COVER!! Since when is a spelling error allowed on the COVER of a National Magazine??? O.K. so the word should be lateral but is LATERNAL!! WTH

Call me old fashioned, but heads should roll over this. Maybe some of you, especially young people, think this is no big deal since most young people can no longer spell correctly either nor can they recognize when a word is misused.. My 20 something daughter tends to spell using phonics and has never learned to spell correctly, so I can understand the problems that some young people have. BUT a Magazine?? C'mon Man!
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I learned to spell using phonics too and I am a TERRIBLE speller and so are most others my age(32) it seems! Evidently phonics does NOT work! My sister is 5 years older than I am and didn't learn using phonics and she can spell great. Pretty pathetic that nobody caught the mispelling on the cover of a big magazine like that.
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Posted 2013-12-01 8:30 AM
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 I saw it too. I was hoping we were all going to learn something new! But alas, it was just spelled wrong!
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Sometimes when I'm trying to read those annoying crawls along the bottom of the tv screen I see some incredible spelling errors.   

I read a western paperback one time where the hero picked a mare out the remuda to ride down the mountainside then later as he picked his way through the rocks sweat was glistening off the neck of the great stallion.  Later when all he had was a six-gun to fight off the bad guys suddenly his rifle was out of shells and he was in real trouble.  Good grief. 
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Used2B - 2013-12-01 8:24 AM

I learned to spell using phonics too and I am a TERRIBLE speller and so are most others my age(32) it seems! Evidently phonics does NOT work! My sister is 5 years older than I am and didn't learn using phonics and she can spell great. Pretty pathetic that nobody caught the mispelling on the cover of a big magazine like that.

 I had phonics and am a good speller. My daddy didn't have phonics and cannot spell to save his life. I don't think you can blame it on phonics or lack there-of...some people can spell and some can't.
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Frodo - 2013-12-01 8:37 AM

Sometimes when I'm trying to read those annoying crawls along the bottom of the tv screen I see some incredible spelling errors.   

I read a western paperback one time where the hero picked a mare out the remuda to ride down the mountainside then later as he picked his way through the rocks sweat was glistening off the neck of the great stallion.  Later when all he had was a six-gun to fight off the bad guys suddenly his rifle was out of shells and he was in real trouble.  Good grief. 

 A lot of the free and 99 cent ebooks are full of crap like that. Some of them are actually good stories, but so poorly written and edited that the errors ruin the whole thing.
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Posted 2013-12-01 9:37 AM
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The least they could've done is use SPELLCHECK !!! All those layouts are surely done on computer nowadays!!
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Posted 2013-12-01 9:44 AM
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I love having a magazine that's strictly barrel racing info to read every month.  I need all the help and tips I can get.  
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Posted 2013-12-01 10:12 AM
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CYA Ranch - 2013-12-01 9:44 AM

I love having a magazine that's strictly barrel racing info to read every month.  I need all the help and tips I can get.  

Yes it really is a good magazine!! I enjoy it and look forward to each issue. I bet someone fainted when they realized the error!
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Posted 2013-12-01 10:20 AM
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Has anyone seen the movie Friends With Benefits with Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis? My favorite quote from the movie...

Jamie: Girl, you are preaching to the congregation.
Dylan: Choir.
Jamie: What?
Dylan: Preaching to the choir. You're supposed to preach to the congregation. That's the expression.
Jamie: Did you understand what I'm saying? Then don't be a d**k about it.


LOL. Sorry, yeah that was a pretty huge mistake for a national publication, but we knew what they meant. I'm going to bet it won't happen again.
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Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2013-12-01 10:33 AM
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CYA Ranch - 2013-12-01 9:44 AM I love having a magazine that's strictly barrel racing info to read every month.  I need all the help and tips I can get.  
Me too.

I've written articles that have been published and have finished a couple of books. I'll be honest, I really don't get the spelling nazis of the world. And quite frankly don't get cattiness of this post. I'm sure the person that was responsible was probably already mortified and now they just feel crucified. And for what? 

As a consumer, I could care less if the front cover has a typo. What I care about and what I'm paying for is the QUALITY of the information that's being conveyed, not whether or not it's spelled right. I'm intelligent enough to figure out the difference between "Lateral" and "Laternal" and what they're trying to relay.

When I submit my work for publication, I try to make sure I catch all the errors. I know that it doesn't look good to have typos and so I try my best to avoid those. I've never looked down my nose at someone else's work for having a spelling error or typo. We all make those kinds of mistakes. They're easy to make and they're easy to correct but what you can't correct is poor writing that has no substance to begin with. 

I love my BHN regardless of whether or not something is spelled wrong. I don't buy it for the spelling anyhow. I hope they keep their editor and the staff they already have because I'm happy with them just the way they are.


 

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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-12-01 10:46 AM
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Just shows that they are human too just like the rest of us. Nobody is perfect. I think we all know what they were saying.
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Posted 2013-12-01 10:53 AM
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Fairweather - 2013-12-01 10:33 AM
CYA Ranch - 2013-12-01 9:44 AM I love having a magazine that's strictly barrel racing info to read every month.  I need all the help and tips I can get.  
Me too.



I've written articles that have been published and have finished a couple of books. I'll be honest, I really don't get the spelling nazis of the world. And quite frankly don't get cattiness of this post. I'm sure the person that was responsible was probably already mortified and now they just feel crucified. And for what? 



As a consumer, I could care less if the front cover has a typo. What I care about and what I'm paying for is the QUALITY of the information that's being conveyed, not whether or not it's spelled right. I'm intelligent enough to figure out the difference between "Lateral" and "Laternal" and what they're trying to relay.



When I submit my work for publication, I try to make sure I catch all the errors. I know that it doesn't look good to have typos and so I try my best to avoid those. I've never looked down my nose at someone else's work for having a spelling error or typo. We all make those kinds of mistakes. They're easy to make and they're easy to correct but what you can't correct is poor writing that has no substance to begin with. 



I love my BHN regardless of whether or not something is spelled wrong. I don't buy it for the spelling anyhow. I hope they keep their editor and the staff they already have because I'm happy with them just the way they are.




 

Catiness?  I didn't find it catty, I am with the OP and lament the days when people were truly educated and not just processed through a school system where "feelings" are more important than performance. 
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Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-12-01 11:05 AM
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I agree with you, hotpaints. I just think if the written word is your profession (magazines, books, newspapers, etc.) the bar should be much higher. I don't expect as much from posts on a forum.
I read a really nice looking barrel racing book recently that was full of typos. It is distracting. I know there are different types of publishing where authors can choose whether to have their work reviewed or not. I just wish they were required to note it on the cover. I honestly would not have gotten the book if I'd known.
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Posted 2013-12-01 11:06 AM
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So a typo means that someone is poorly educated and illiterate? 

It's been said that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes. Does that mean he's not intelligent?
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Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2013-12-01 11:25 AM
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It's all about the details......What else are they missing??? Just my opinion.
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Posted 2013-12-01 11:51 AM
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The issue with spelling is it's based on memorizing and using "rules" that only apply less than half the time. Add in the fact that the eye sees what it thinks it should and there in lies the issue of spelling errors. I am willing to bet they read it 30 times and their brain just kept telling them it was lateral and not laternal because that's what they expected it to be. It's a good reminder to have someone out of the loop proof read one last time because they will have fresh eyes.

Also, a few of the people on this thread that want to crucify the editors for a spelling mistake could use a few lessons in grammar usage.  
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Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2013-12-01 12:21 PM
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Fairweather - 2013-12-01 11:06 AM So a typo means that someone is poorly educated and illiterate? 



It's been said that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes. Does that mean he's not intelligent?

 No, but in a world of spellcheck on every computer, it means someone doesn't care enough. Pride in ones work is often absent nowadays. I don't have a dog and don't even get bhn anymore, just my .02 and it's not even worth that in today's economy.
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Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2013-12-01 12:40 PM
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This is not the only mistake they make.  My pet peeve that BHN screws up is when talking about bloodlines and they don't use "by" and "out of" correctly.  For one particular horse, they used the same terminology for both the sire and the dam and I was so confused afterwards I had no idea what this elite horse's pedigree really was.  

They are in the business of publishing a national magazine.  Correct spelling should be at the top of the list to get things correct.
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Posted 2013-12-01 1:01 PM
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kmcsunshine - 2013-12-01 10:53 AM
Fairweather - 2013-12-01 10:33 AM
CYA Ranch - 2013-12-01 9:44 AM I love having a magazine that's strictly barrel racing info to read every month.  I need all the help and tips I can get.  
Me too.



I've written articles that have been published and have finished a couple of books. I'll be honest, I really don't get the spelling nazis of the world. And quite frankly don't get cattiness of this post. I'm sure the person that was responsible was probably already mortified and now they just feel crucified. And for what? 



As a consumer, I could care less if the front cover has a typo. What I care about and what I'm paying for is the QUALITY of the information that's being conveyed, not whether or not it's spelled right. I'm intelligent enough to figure out the difference between "Lateral" and "Laternal" and what they're trying to relay.



When I submit my work for publication, I try to make sure I catch all the errors. I know that it doesn't look good to have typos and so I try my best to avoid those. I've never looked down my nose at someone else's work for having a spelling error or typo. We all make those kinds of mistakes. They're easy to make and they're easy to correct but what you can't correct is poor writing that has no substance to begin with. 



I love my BHN regardless of whether or not something is spelled wrong. I don't buy it for the spelling anyhow. I hope they keep their editor and the staff they already have because I'm happy with them just the way they are.




 
Catiness?  I didn't find it catty, I am with the OP and lament the days when people were truly educated and not just processed through a school system where "feelings" are more important than performance. 

I'm sorry but I agree....I don't see any "cattiness" nor do I see where they have pointed out that they were uneducated........All I see is.... it a FACT that it was this person's JOB to proof read the copy and they didn't DO their job effectively. With "spell check", there shouldn't be any excuses.......
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I think maybe it annoy's us old farts the most because I remember spending hours in English class learning the difference between sell, sale, their, there and getting my knuckles thumped when I got it wrong.  Simply put, there was a correct way and a incorrect way to use and spell the words and not much tolerance for the incorrect way.  This was back in the day where people wrote letters to communicate though because the internet, FB and all the other ways we communicate now hadn't been invented yet   I'm sorry, but when I see some word used or spelled the wrong way, especially in the day and age of spell check, it's a turn off for me. 


 

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Posted 2013-12-01 1:42 PM
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I think maybe it annoy's us old farts the most because I remember spending hours in English class learning the difference between sell, sale, their, there and getting my knuckles thumped when I got it wrong.  Simply put, there was a correct way and a incorrect way to use and spell the words and not much tolerance for the incorrect way.  This was back in the day where people wrote letters to communicate though because the internet, FB and all the other ways we communicate now hadn't been invented yet   I'm sorry, but when I see some word used or spelled the wrong way, especially in the day and age of spell check, it's a turn off for me. 


 

Annoys not annoy's! LOL.
confirmation/conformation
your/you're
An animal is "by" the stud
An animal is "out of" the mare
And the list goes on and on and on
Major magazine error-yes it's a big mistake!
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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2013-12-01 1:57 PM
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This isn't meant to be mean, but if we're picking on spelling (I was an AF journalist and can appreciate your frustration!) then shouldn't the title be BHN needs and editor "who" can spell.  Using "that" implies a non-person.  Then again, who knows who or what the editor is? :)
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Posted 2013-12-01 2:00 PM
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 I have always had a problem with the grammar and spelling in that magazine.  Sometimes I'll start on an article and it will get so bad I'll just give up and start flipping pages lol
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Posted 2013-12-01 2:03 PM
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long ago and far, far away, I used to work for a fair sized respected horse magazine.  We had one get past every person on staff.  On the spine of the mag one month we had in print ______ Hose News.  I think 3 people caught it. We were very embarrassed.  
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BMW - 2013-12-01 11:42 AM
teehaha - 2013-12-01 1:14 PM I think maybe it annoy's us old farts the most because I remember spending hours in English class learning the difference between sell, sale, their, there and getting my knuckles thumped when I got it wrong.  Simply put, there was a correct way and a incorrect way to use and spell the words and not much tolerance for the incorrect way.  This was back in the day where people wrote letters to communicate though because the internet, FB and all the other ways we communicate now hadn't been invented yet   I'm sorry, but when I see some word used or spelled the wrong way, especially in the day and age of spell check, it's a turn off for me. 





 
Annoys not annoy's! LOL. confirmation/conformation your/you're An animal is "by" the stud An animal is "out of" the mare And the list goes on and on and on Major magazine error-yes it's a big mistake!

better turn the spell check on!




 
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Fairweather - 2013-12-01 11:06 AM

So a typo means that someone is poorly educated and illiterate? 

It's been said that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes. Does that mean he's not intelligent?

A typo means the EDITOR was not doing their job. The PROOFREADER, you know, the person in charge of catching errors? What they are PAID to do. I will never forget the day my youngest came home and said "spelling doesn't count in reports." I said the hell it doesn't. This same "teacher" sent home a note that said "J's handrighting is needing to be improved."
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Fairweather - 2013-12-01 11:06 AM So a typo means that someone is poorly educated and illiterate? 



It's been said that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes. Does that mean he's not intelligent?
A typo means the EDITOR was not doing their job. The PROOFREADER, you know, the person in charge of catching errors? What they are PAID to do. I will never forget the day my youngest came home and said "spelling doesn't count in reports." I said the hell it doesn't. This same "teacher" sent home a note that said "J's handrighting is needing to be improved."



 

 
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GoGaited - 2013-12-01 3:11 PM
Fairweather - 2013-12-01 11:06 AM So a typo means that someone is poorly educated and illiterate? 

It's been said that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes. Does that mean he's not intelligent?
A typo means the EDITOR was not doing their job. The PROOFREADER, you know, the person in charge of catching errors? What they are PAID to do. I will never forget the day my youngest came home and said "spelling doesn't count in reports." I said the hell it doesn't. This same "teacher" sent home a note that said "J's handrighting is needing to be improved."
Whoa now, why are you getting so mad at Fairweather? We all have our own opinions and she was just giving hers. 

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Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-01 8:02 AM
Used2B - 2013-12-01 8:24 AM I learned to spell using phonics too and I am a TERRIBLE speller and so are most others my age(32) it seems! Evidently phonics does NOT work! My sister is 5 years older than I am and didn't learn using phonics and she can spell great. Pretty pathetic that nobody caught the mispelling on the cover of a big magazine like that.
 I had phonics and am a good speller. My daddy didn't have phonics and cannot spell to save his life. I don't think you can blame it on phonics or lack there-of...some people can spell and some can't.

I agree with this. I have always heard phonics was the better way. 
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Not only are magazines publishing horrible grammar and spelling mistakes, but so are our textbooks. How are people supposed to know the difference when it is written poorly in a textbook of all things? One of my nursing school textbooks is so bad, I can't even read it. I crossed out 3 spelling/grammar errors in the first paragraph!  
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fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-01 3:52 PM I haven't even gotten  mine yet.... 

I haven't received mine either but when I do, I'm going to seal that sucker up because it'll be worth something some day after this post.  
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Fairweather - 2013-12-01 4:09 PM
fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-01 3:52 PM I haven't even gotten  mine yet.... 
I haven't received mine either but when I do, I'm going to seal that sucker up because it'll be worth something some day after this post.  

I have mine  
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I can remember reading an article on Martha Josey's website.  She said something like if your horse is injured you are basically a foot.  This should, I believe, be afoot.  I e-mailed her and pointed out the error stating  a foot is what you put your sock on and afoot would be the proper lingo.  I got no reply.....probably only served to annoy her.

 
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I would think there are more pressing issues to focus on.  But what do I know, I make typo's all the time and I get paid to do it.

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hotpaints - 2013-12-01 7:45 AM

This problem is much greater than a personal pet peeve. LOOK at the COVER!! Since when is a spelling error allowed on the COVER of a National Magazine??? O.K. so the word should be lateral but is LATERNAL!! WTH

Call me old fashioned, but heads should roll over this. Maybe some of you, especially young people, think this is no big deal since most young people can no longer spell correctly either nor can they recognize when a word is misused.. My 20 something daughter tends to spell using phonics and has never learned to spell correctly, so I can understand the problems that some young people have. BUT a Magazine?? C'mon Man!

I think they do it just to screw with RWR...
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hotpaints - 2013-12-01 7:45 AM This problem is much greater than a personal pet peeve. LOOK at the COVER!! Since when is a spelling error allowed on the COVER of a National Magazine??? O.K. so the word should be lateral but is LATERNAL!! WTH



Call me old fashioned, but heads should roll over this. Maybe some of you, especially young people, think this is no big deal since most young people can no longer spell correctly either nor can they recognize when a word is misused.. My 20 something daughter tends to spell using phonics and has never learned to spell correctly, so I can understand the problems that some young people have. BUT a Magazine?? C'mon Man!
I think they do it just to screw with RWR...

 
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witt - 2013-12-01 11:25 AM It's all about the details......What else are they missing??? Just my opinion.



When we send text, emails, etc., we are not getting paid. When ANY magazine or newspaper goes to print, they should be held to a higher standard not just in grammer, spelling, etc. but in the factual correctness of the context.

I enjoy the BHN and have always looked forward to each issue BUT there have been SO MANY mistakes that I wonder who is proof reading.

Attention to details is what sets us apart. Just ask any professional in any type of business.
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I could give a flying %@*&% if there are **** ass typos, just so there isn't any *****ing and cussing.  :)    I assure you, all those words were spelled correctly. 
Will you proof my next book, my last editor missed a few thousand things.  
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There are professions that attention to detail and accuracy is highly desirable if not essential. 

For instance a farrier will cripple a horse by shoeing them uneven or unbalanced.  I care very much if my horse stays sound and performs well. I'm paying for a professional to do a good job. 

When I place an order for anything. I want my order completed accurately. If they can't do that on a regular basis, I will take my business somewhere else.

I'm a bookkeeper.  Do you suppose my employer cares much if I leave a 0 off when I deposit a check or invoice our customers?  Just sayin' 

By the stallion and out of the mare; always.  Yes it matters. I've read articles about some horse winning something and I'm disgusted that the author is either clueless or careless.  These are equine publications.  Please hire people who care enough to get it right.
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OregonBR - 2013-12-01 8:37 PM There are professions that attention to detail and accuracy is highly desirable if not essential. 



For instance a farrier will cripple a horse by shoeing them uneven or unbalanced.  I care very much if my horse stays sound and performs well. I'm paying for a professional to do a good job. 



When I place an order for anything. I want my order completed accurately. If they can't do that on a regular basis, I will take my business somewhere else.



I'm a bookkeeper.  Do you suppose my employer cares much if I leave a 0 off when I deposit a check or invoice our customers?  Just sayin' 



By the stallion and out of the mare; always.  Yes it matters. I've read articles about some horse winning something and I'm disgusted that the author is either clueless or careless.  These are equine publications.  Please hire people who care enough to get it right.

Well said
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 Quick note on phonics vs memorization, it started out that there was no regularized spelling at all. It was all done phonically. You might find the same word, even the same name, spelled three different ways on the same page in a medieval manuscript. It was the advent of printing that froze our spelling.  Words were at one time spelled exactly like they sounded. Pre 1500 we actually said all the letters in a word like knight. Disadvantage--we lost some powerful context reading and creative ways of playing with language. Add the obsession with Latin grammar that occurred in the eighteenth century, when the first dictionaries were published, and you get our modern concerns with grammar and correctness that are unnatural representatives of living languages. Nonetheless consistent spelling and grammar provide a lot of advantages. For instance, even if you cannot understand someone's strong accent, consistent grammar rules and spelling will still allow you to communicate in a written medium. 

In conclusion, phonics used to work great, especially because there were no standards. However standards have their uses. Thus BHN might need a new copy editor (the one responsible for proofreading) but not necessarily a new editor (usually responsible for content).


 

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They need online subscriptions so that it can be viewed and read immediately online.  Save paper & it's pretty immediate. 
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I can't take anyone seriously when they make spelling errors.  I'm sorry--you drop a level in my book.
Grammar I can understand, because it's a little tricky.
I am a fabulous speller, and I'm not afraid to say it.  I grew up reading books; I attribute my ability to spell to reading higher level books as a young kid.

I would expect to find typos within an article.....NOT on a cover. 


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CYA Ranch - 2013-12-01 9:44 AM I love having a magazine that's strictly barrel racing info to read every month.  I need all the help and tips I can get.  
Me too.



I've written articles that have been published and have finished a couple of books. I'll be honest, I really don't get the spelling nazis of the world. And quite frankly don't get cattiness of this post. I'm sure the person that was responsible was probably already mortified and now they just feel crucified. And for what? 



As a consumer, I could care less if the front cover has a typo. What I care about and what I'm paying for is the QUALITY of the information that's being conveyed, not whether or not it's spelled right. I'm intelligent enough to figure out the difference between "Lateral" and "Laternal" and what they're trying to relay.



When I submit my work for publication, I try to make sure I catch all the errors. I know that it doesn't look good to have typos and so I try my best to avoid those. I've never looked down my nose at someone else's work for having a spelling error or typo. We all make those kinds of mistakes. They're easy to make and they're easy to correct but what you can't correct is poor writing that has no substance to begin with. 



I love my BHN regardless of whether or not something is spelled wrong. I don't buy it for the spelling anyhow. I hope they keep their editor and the staff they already have because I'm happy with them just the way they are.




 
Catiness?  I didn't find it catty, I am with the OP and lament the days when people were truly educated and not just processed through a school system where "feelings" are more important than performance. 

I'm sorry but I agree....I don't see any "cattiness" nor do I see where they have pointed out that they were uneducated........All I see is.... it a FACT that it was this person's JOB to proof read the copy and they didn't DO their job effectively. With "spell check", there shouldn't be any excuses.......

Trusting SPELLCHECK is probably the reason it is wrong ... spellcheck screws up more correctly spelled words and changes words by one letter that changes my whole meaning in a sentence or paragraph ... I think spellcheck dumbs down everyone and gives them an excuse for their ignorance of the English language.. ... I would love to find a way to kill it off of my computer !! Learning to concentrate and memorize something is a talent these days ....!!

Everyone thinks their kids are brilliant computer users .... WRONG ... they have all of these picture aps that they scroll thru but have no idea how to find the website without them ..... to me they are being trained to be burger flippers and checkout picture monsters that don't even have any idea how to count change back to a customer .... If a kid can memorize all of those abs and games ... they can learn to use their brains to learn how to spell and do basic math ...



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I can't take anyone seriously when they make spelling errors.  I'm sorry--you drop a level in my book.
Grammar I can understand, because it's a little tricky.
I am a fabulous speller, and I'm not afraid to say it.  I grew up reading books; I attribute my ability to spell to reading higher level books as a young kid.

I would expect to find typos within an article.....NOT on a cover. 

Ditto! I was an avid reader when I was younger. I think that makes a huge impact on spelling ability. My friends always called me the "human spellcheck" when we were in school. It just came naturally to me.
I'm in speech therapy due to a brain injury from a horse accident and the therapists always compliment my vocabulary. I wish reading was important to young kids. I'm 29 and I feel like there's a huge difference in the way I grew up vs the kids nowadays. It's kind of sad. I don't hear of many kids reading for fun like I used to do. Nancy Drew was my hero :)
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hammer_time - 2013-12-01 11:40 PM I can't take anyone seriously when they make spelling errors.  I'm sorry--you drop a level in my book.

Grammar I can understand, because it's a little tricky.

I am a fabulous speller, and I'm not afraid to say it.  I grew up reading books; I attribute my ability to spell to reading higher level books as a young kid.



I would expect to find typos within an article.....NOT on a cover. 
Ditto! I was an avid reader when I was younger. I think that makes a huge impact on spelling ability. My friends always called me the "human spellcheck" when we were in school. It just came naturally to me. I'm in speech therapy due to a brain injury from a horse accident and the therapists always compliment my vocabulary. I wish reading was important to young kids. I'm 29 and I feel like there's a huge difference in the way I grew up vs the kids nowadays. It's kind of sad. I don't hear of many kids reading for fun like I used to do. Nancy Drew was my hero :)

OMG I think I had every single one of those yellow Nancy Drew books.  LOVED THEM.  Mom spoiled me with the hardback versions! 
I always had to ride the bus to school--about 45 minutes on the bus gave me plenty of time to read to pass the time.  I remember the high schoolers commenting on how I was reading the same book they were--and I was easily 4 grades below them.  It just comes naturally to me. 
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When I was in journalism school, if you didn't spell a word correctly or got someone's name wrong in a story, you got ZERO credit for that story. With names, I learned to ASK the person how to spell it - even something simple might not be as you would guess - John Smyth instead of John Smith for example. (Not that name-spelling has anything to do with this, sorry for my rant)!  
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Um, I will wholeheartedly admit I am a horrible horrible speller.

however, someone is paid good money to be the editor for this publication. I'm sure they have a fact check (or the like) on staff as well. They should not have an error like this on the cover... "laternal" is not even a word (as far as I know)

I understand that people are only human.... but it's the cover for crying out loud.... 
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Wait... are we talking about the December edition?  I just got November like 2 weeks ago, so maybe before Janury?  All I want for Christmas is my BHN, my BHN, my BHN... I'll be sure to give it a good head shake when it arrives, that'll teach it... then I suppose I'll just keep reading since that's about all I can do.  
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Maybe you all in my uncanning ability to read right over words that are not spelled correct...lol
it's either this, or I just don't give a crap... lol it's a  toss up...lol 
I didn't even notice, but then again I haven't sat down to "read" a BHN in years...

 
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Laternal be a word.....


 

The laternal vaginae in the bandicoots Isoodon macrourus and Perameles nasuta wer long, straight and tabular, and consisted of a mascular sheath, an intermediate connective tissue layer and a luminal epithelium. The muscle layer had an inwardly projecting longitudinal ridge in I. macrourus but not in P. nasuta. In both species, a glassy layer was present immediately below the epithelium which was usually stratified columnar in type, although a non-keratinzing squamous type occured in small regions in some P. nasuta during pregnancy. The distance between the lateral vaginae in the birth canal region increased during pregnancy and reached a maximum at birth. The birth canal lacked an epithelial lining and was patent in some animals for more than half the lactation period. The allantoic stalks were often retained within the birth canal region throughout the lactation period and in some animals during the next pregnancy and even during the early part of the subsequent lactation

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LRQHS - 2013-12-02 7:42 AM Laternal be a word.....





 

The laternal vaginae in the bandicoots Isoodon macrourus and Perameles nasuta wer long, straight and tabular, and consisted of a mascular sheath, an intermediate connective tissue layer and a luminal epithelium. The muscle layer had an inwardly projecting longitudinal ridge in I. macrourus but not in P. nasuta. In both species, a glassy layer was present immediately below the epithelium which was usually stratified columnar in type, although a non-keratinzing squamous type occured in small regions in some P. nasuta during pregnancy. The distance between the lateral vaginae in the birth canal region increased during pregnancy and reached a maximum at birth. The birth canal lacked an epithelial lining and was patent in some animals for more than half the lactation period. The allantoic stalks were often retained within the birth canal region throughout the lactation period and in some animals during the next pregnancy and even during the early part of the subsequent lactation



 misspelling of lateral I do believe
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The laternal vaginae in the bandicoots Isoodon macrourus and Perameles nasuta wer long, straight and tabular, and consisted of a mascular sheath, an intermediate connective tissue layer and a luminal epithelium. The muscle layer had an inwardly projecting longitudinal ridge in I. macrourus but not in P. nasuta. In both species, a glassy layer was present immediately below the epithelium which was usually stratified columnar in type, although a non-keratinzing squamous type occured in small regions in some P. nasuta during pregnancy. The distance between the lateral vaginae in the birth canal region increased during pregnancy and reached a maximum at birth. The birth canal lacked an epithelial lining and was patent in some animals for more than half the lactation period. The allantoic stalks were often retained within the birth canal region throughout the lactation period and in some animals during the next pregnancy and even during the early part of the subsequent lactation


 misspelling of lateral I do believe

Blasted!!!!


Laternal is a movement isn't it??? Help me out here, my nerdy little friend lol...
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LRQHS - 2013-12-02 7:42 AM Laternal be a word.....





 

The laternal vaginae in the bandicoots Isoodon macrourus and Perameles nasuta wer long, straight and tabular, and consisted of a mascular sheath, an intermediate connective tissue layer and a luminal epithelium. The muscle layer had an inwardly projecting longitudinal ridge in I. macrourus but not in P. nasuta. In both species, a glassy layer was present immediately below the epithelium which was usually stratified columnar in type, although a non-keratinzing squamous type occured in small regions in some P. nasuta during pregnancy. The distance between the lateral vaginae in the birth canal region increased during pregnancy and reached a maximum at birth. The birth canal lacked an epithelial lining and was patent in some animals for more than half the lactation period. The allantoic stalks were often retained within the birth canal region throughout the lactation period and in some animals during the next pregnancy and even during the early part of the subsequent lactation


 misspelling of lateral I do believe
Blasted!!!!





Laternal is a movement isn't it??? Help me out here, my nerdy little friend lol...

Laternal is NOT a word. 
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LRQHS - 2013-12-02 7:42 AM Laternal be a word.....





 

The laternal vaginae in the bandicoots Isoodon macrourus and Perameles nasuta wer long, straight and tabular, and consisted of a mascular sheath, an intermediate connective tissue layer and a luminal epithelium. The muscle layer had an inwardly projecting longitudinal ridge in I. macrourus but not in P. nasuta. In both species, a glassy layer was present immediately below the epithelium which was usually stratified columnar in type, although a non-keratinzing squamous type occured in small regions in some P. nasuta during pregnancy. The distance between the lateral vaginae in the birth canal region increased during pregnancy and reached a maximum at birth. The birth canal lacked an epithelial lining and was patent in some animals for more than half the lactation period. The allantoic stalks were often retained within the birth canal region throughout the lactation period and in some animals during the next pregnancy and even during the early part of the subsequent lactation


 misspelling of lateral I do believe
Blasted!!!!





Laternal is a movement isn't it??? Help me out here, my nerdy little friend lol...

I think you are thinking of lateral movement.... lol

I'm pretty sure it's not a word

My google search revealed nothing but misspellings of lateral or maternal lol
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 Well, I am declaring it a word lol......

Laternal: a verb;  a movement; side by side movement which makes a gradual turn to the north.
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Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer.

However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste.

Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens.

And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts.

Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.
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I'm guessing that most of you that are heavily criticizing the BHN staff haven't ever worked in journalism before because if you had, you would be a little more forgiving. For some reason catching typos makes people feel like they are high and mighty, especially when it is not actually their job. It's always easy to be a couch critic no matter what you are deciding to pick apart. I'm guessing that the misspelling on the front page is actually a typo and not a misspelling. It's also possible that the wrong version of the layout could have been sent as the final. There are a number of situations that could have happened. Working in Journalism is extremely stressful, no matter if you work in a tv newsroom, for a newspaper, or a national magazine like BHN. Most of these people wear multiple hats and are paid very little for what they do. The sucky thing about it is that once the mistake is made, it is made and there is nothing to do about it. Your mistake is then sent out to tens of thousands of people! I promise you the person responsible for this is horrified! So that is my two cents.

Also on a side note: I proofread documents for a profession (I didn't go over this post, so don't tear it apart. This is just a forum!) I've had people tell me that once they found out what my job was, they actually were afraid to send me a texts because their spelling was bad. I always laugh and say, "It's a job not a hobby. I don't get paid to correct your spelling and plus... I'm not a jerk." So send away, I can read!

In a cycle of improvement, it is always uncomfortable to discover what the "issues" are. I'm sure that if the magazine has good management, a new, better, improved process will be put into effect that will prevent these things from happening in the future. I'm sure that the staff has a true appreciation for spelling, grammar, and content or they wouldn't be in the business they are. This is isn't about who can spell and who is best with grammar.
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aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM

Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer.

However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste.

Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens.

And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts.

Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.

I think we were posting about the same time. Fact is: when you've worked in the business of journalism you understand that people need to have a little more compassion. lol
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aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer. However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste. Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens. And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts. Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.


Worked in journalism.
Not the first error by a long shot.
They like the editor more because she is a barrel racer and knows people and really cares about barrel racing.
Designers do not change words. Nor do the printers. To try to place blame somewhere else would be silly. I'm sure she's taken full credit for the error. 

Edited to say that Yes, I have made errors as well, we all do. And I take full credit for them when they happen.


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aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer. However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste. Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens. And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts. Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.


Worked in journalism.
Not the first error by a long shot.
They like the editor more because she is a barrel racer and knows people and really cares about barrel racing.
Designers do not change words. Nor do the printers. To try to place blame somewhere else would be silly. I'm sure she's taken full credit for the error. 

Edited to say that Yes, I have made errors as well, we all do. And I take full credit for them when they happen.

Wasn't saying that the designers change words. I was meaning that if the designer typed in the text, the mistake could have happened then. Not making excuses, just pointing out possibilities.

Should the mistake have been caught? Yes.
Was it? No.
Should they issue an apology? No.
Should they be berated because of a mistake? No.

The error reflects on the editor. But the reality is that with the number of people in the process, it should have been caught.
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aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 12:52 PM
smiley - 2013-12-02 12:12 PM
aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer. However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste. Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens. And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts. Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.




Worked in journalism.

Not the first error by a long shot.

They like the editor more because she is a barrel racer and knows people and really cares about barrel racing.

Designers do not change words. Nor do the printers. To try to place blame somewhere else would be silly. I'm sure she's taken full credit for the error. 



Edited to say that Yes, I have made errors as well, we all do. And I take full credit for them when they happen.
Wasn't saying that the designers change words. I was meaning that if the designer typed in the text, the mistake could have happened then. Not making excuses, just pointing out possibilities. Should the mistake have been caught? Yes. Was it? No. Should they issue an apology? No. Should they be berated because of a mistake? No. The error reflects on the editor. But the reality is that with the number of people in the process, it should have been caught.



Totally agree. Love the magazine. Kinda surprised regularly by what is missed, but in general, it's a great publication with good stories. I think they like the "inside" mind of a barrel horse nerd vs. having a word nerd that might get every word right, but might not have as good of story ideas?? Who knows.......... I do understand the OP's frustration though, as a word nerd................
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smiley - 2013-12-02 3:49 PM

aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 12:52 PM
smiley - 2013-12-02 12:12 PM
aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer. However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste. Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens. And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts. Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.




Worked in journalism.

Not the first error by a long shot.

They like the editor more because she is a barrel racer and knows people and really cares about barrel racing.

Designers do not change words. Nor do the printers. To try to place blame somewhere else would be silly. I'm sure she's taken full credit for the error. 



Edited to say that Yes, I have made errors as well, we all do. And I take full credit for them when they happen.
Wasn't saying that the designers change words. I was meaning that if the designer typed in the text, the mistake could have happened then. Not making excuses, just pointing out possibilities. Should the mistake have been caught? Yes. Was it? No. Should they issue an apology? No. Should they be berated because of a mistake? No. The error reflects on the editor. But the reality is that with the number of people in the process, it should have been caught.



Totally agree. Love the magazine. Kinda surprised regularly by what is missed, but in general, it's a great publication with good stories. I think they like the "inside" mind of a barrel horse nerd vs. having a word nerd that might get every word right, but might not have as good of story ideas?? Who knows.......... I do understand the OP's frustration though, as a word nerd................

Totally agree. I can think of several other equine publications that do the same thing. OMG! It drives me bonkers.
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Posted 2013-12-02 8:03 PM
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Posted 2013-12-02 8:25 PM
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smiley - 2013-12-02 11:12 AM
aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer. However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste. Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens. And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts. Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.




Worked in journalism.

Not the first error by a long shot.

They like the editor more because she is a barrel racer and knows people and really cares about barrel racing.

Designers do not change words. Nor do the printers. To try to place blame somewhere else would be silly. I'm sure she's taken full credit for the error. 



Edited to say that Yes, I have made errors as well, we all do. And I take full credit for them when they happen.

Sorry Maryanna, Gonna disagree here. They don't change words on purpose, but it happens. Seen it happen way too many times. Copy/Paste and then accidentally deleted while trying a new font or bolding/shading and it gets retyped wrong. Working with four different ad/graphic designers, I keep all my  hard copy handy to make sure that doesn't happen. Even so I don't always catch it on the proof, and if I ask for a corrrection, I don't always get a proof back to make sure the correction was made because of tight deadlines. Had that happen with the Texas Best Sale catalog here recently. I also wonder why more graphics programs don't come with spell check. I know it would be darn handy.
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Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2013-12-02 8:36 PM
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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2013-12-03 12:23 AM
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zipper - 2013-12-02 7:25 PM
smiley - 2013-12-02 11:12 AM
aggiejudger - 2013-12-02 7:59 AM Having worked and freelanced for multiple publications, I just have to say that publications dread these mistakes. Yes, all publications (especially the big ones) have someone who serves as a copy editor and proofs EVERYTHING before it goes to the designer. However, once it goes to the designer, there is no assurance that the spelling will remain correct. It should, but not always. Often the designer just copies and pastes from Word into the design program being used. But.... the designer may also choose to just type in the text rather than copy/paste. Once the magazine is laid out, it goes through another proofing process with multiple people (usually all staff) reviewing the magazine in the hopes of eliminating all glaring errors. Unfortunately, after looking at something numerous times, your brain automatically makes the error appear correct and it is overlooked. Not always, but it happens. And errors are very common in fonts used for design purposes. Our brains are not adept at catching mistakes in san serif (no feet) on the fonts. San serif fonts are extremely common in design, whereas, serif (like Times New Roman) is used in the body of text. Our brains are better able to read serif fonts. Not justifying the mistake, but no magazine is error free. I hated looking at issues after they went to print. Because even after they were printed, I would find errors that we had missed.


Worked in journalism.
Not the first error by a long shot.
They like the editor more because she is a barrel racer and knows people and really cares about barrel racing.
Designers do not change words. Nor do the printers. To try to place blame somewhere else would be silly. I'm sure she's taken full credit for the error. 

Edited to say that Yes, I have made errors as well, we all do. And I take full credit for them when they happen.
Sorry Maryanna, Gonna disagree here. They don't change words on purpose, but it happens. Seen it happen way too many times. Copy/Paste and then accidentally deleted while trying a new font or bolding/shading and it gets retyped wrong. Working with four different ad/graphic designers, I keep all my  hard copy handy to make sure that doesn't happen. Even so I don't always catch it on the proof, and if I ask for a corrrection, I don't always get a proof back to make sure the correction was made because of tight deadlines. Had that happen with the Texas Best Sale catalog here recently. I also wonder why more graphics programs don't come with spell check. I know it would be darn handy.


I'm not being ugly, I'm saying that I'm sure that most would rather claim their mistake than to blow it to someone else. If it were my mistake, I would just take it on the chin. Like I said, she brings more to the table than the occasional error.

Edited to stay that I missed it on the first read too............

Edited by smiley 2013-12-03 12:25 AM
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Posted 2013-12-03 7:54 AM
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 Wow, really?  I'm sure it's embarrassing for them to have a mistake, but we're all human.  Far more worse things in the world to get all bent out of shape about this.  For instance, I haven't even received my BHN yet this month 
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Posted 2013-12-03 8:09 AM
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Lol! Good thing they don't print an Editors' page on all OUR mistakes as riders! They make fewer "nistakes" than WE do!! Lol!!

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Posted 2013-12-03 10:46 AM
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LRQHS - 2013-12-02 8:10 AM  Well, I am declaring it a word lol......



Laternal: a verb;  a movement; side by side movement which makes a gradual turn to the north.

Perhaps a nocturnal creature that always sleeps LATE.  i.e. teenagers?    You may have coined a new "turn of phrase"
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barrelracer_3d - 2013-12-02 8:03 PM

    at least it's in small print,  in the upper right of the front cover.. ..  - "Laternal Movement  with Dick Pieper"  

Well... at least they got his first name right...
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Posted 2013-12-03 5:51 PM
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I just got my issue today. . - Mr. Pieper's article is good,  ... but, now....   that photo of Talmadge..... (breaks my heart)  ....  what a team, it's  A W E SO M E   !

Edited by barrelracer_3d 2013-12-03 5:53 PM
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I'm thinking we all make mistakes in our jobs, regardless of what we do.  These mistakes don't happen often in professional publications but they do happen, the world continues to spin; it's not something that is too awfully important in the grand scheme of life! 
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