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| Rip hr apart, you wont hurt my feelings. Not the best photo I have. I don't remember if I have ever posted her here before either so, forgive me if I have. She's not down hill she was just kinda standing in a hole.
Not standing really square anyhow. But this is the only photo I have that is this recent.
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| BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 1:10 PM
, you wont hurt my feelings.
Past history suggests otherwise.
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| DD2012 - 2013-12-04 1:12 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 1:10 PM
, you wont hurt my feelings.
Past history suggests otherwise.
Excuse me? I really didn't post this to start stuff, I just posted it for a conformation crit. If you're referring to the registration thing, my feelings weren't hurt. Everyone was right just got PO'd when everyone jumped on me when I was only asking questions. I know this mare's faults just wanted to see what anyone else saw.
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Location: Northern CA | Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me. |
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| halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM
Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me.
Thank you. Is this just a confo default or can it be better with adding muscle(stifles gaskin area)?
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Better photos would help......she doesn't look bad to me. I like a more muscular hind end. I would like more of a gaskin muscle. It's just one picture, so really hard to comment. I don't think there's anything big to fault here. She is a cutie. |
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Location: Northern CA | BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 11:28 AM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me. Thank you. Is this just a confo default or can it be better with adding muscle (stifles gaskin area )?
Hard to tell from the pictures, but legging up and conditioning sure can't hurt! |
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| These were taken back in 2011, so she has so much less muscle definition. Only other photo's I have.
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Location: Northern CA | Okay, I take back the short neck part! |
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| halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:46 PM
Okay, I take back the short neck part!
Yeah. Her neck doesn't tie in very well and is kinda skinny xD. I think just the way I caught the angle of the first photo made it look short. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I stay the same with my assessment lol.....I would like a nicer hind end and gaskin muscle :) |
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| LRQHS - 2013-12-04 1:49 PM
I stay the same with my assessment lol.....I would like a nicer hind end and gaskin muscle :)
I would too, seriously. She has more muscle then she used too. But she's always gonna have a tiny butt. I have been told she has the fox trotter butt. (She's not full Qh. She's 3/4 QH, 1/4 mftxarab.) she was a BYB accident.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 1:50 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-04 1:49 PM I stay the same with my assessment lol.....I would like a nicer hind end and gaskin muscle :) I would too, seriously. She has more muscle then she used too. But she's always gonna have a tiny butt. I have been told she has the fox trotter butt. (She's not full Qh. She's 3/4 QH, 1/4 mftxarab.) she was a BYB accident.
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| LRQHS - 2013-12-04 1:55 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 1:50 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-04 1:49 PM I stay the same with my assessment lol.....I would like a nicer hind end and gaskin muscle :) I would too, seriously. She has more muscle then she used too. But she's always gonna have a tiny butt. I have been told she has the fox trotter butt. (She's not full Qh. She's 3/4 QH, 1/4 mftxarab.) she was a BYB accident.
xD she's a god awful looking QH if she was full. I mean she's not bad, but she's by no means 'looking' like a QH. She never shows, the MFT in her, ever except in her butt. But she sure as heck shows the Arabian when she wants. |
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| halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:39 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 11:28 AM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me. Thank you. Is this just a confo default or can it be better with adding muscle (stifles gaskin area )?
Can you give me any good excises to do with her to strength both those areas?? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 2:43 PM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:39 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 11:28 AM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me. Thank you. Is this just a confo default or can it be better with adding muscle (stifles gaskin area )? Can you give me any good excises to do with her to strength both those areas??
I have a levee close to my home and sending them up it builds those muscles......find a hill, work her in sand, long, slow gallops.....that sort of thing will help. |
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| LRQHS - 2013-12-04 2:46 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 2:43 PM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:39 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-12-04 11:28 AM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me. Thank you. Is this just a confo default or can it be better with adding muscle (stifles gaskin area )? Can you give me any good excises to do with her to strength both those areas?? I have a levee close to my home and sending them up it builds those muscles......find a hill, work her in sand, long, slow gallops.....that sort of thing will help.
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| halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM
Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me.
I agree with this but also want to add her front legs are set too far underneath her, this will cause her to have a shorter stride, her hocks are a little higher then I like to see.
Also want to comment all you can do is tone the muscle she has you cannot develop muscle she was not born with |
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Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada | Stand her square and see if she stands camped out a bit at the back. She looks a little longer in the back than I would like to see and also just the way she stands she appears to be going down hill. Is she really higher in the rear end? It may be a bit harder for a horse like this to collect up and really dig in around the barrels . The cannon bones look a bit longer than I would want so you may have a horse that gets a bit more strung out than a more comapct build. The front shoulder looks quite steep compared to the pastern which seems to have a normal slope so she may pound on her front joints a bit.
Not really too bad a horse but just my observations. I am not sure she will be as strong in the back and use her power from her hind end which could be a little bigger for that matter. I am not a barrel racer so maybe the experts out there can critque my critique.
This horse could be a little more heavily muscled and stronger in the back overall, and I suspect she will not be as agile as you may want. The really steep shoulder and down hill build if true may be a problem for the front joints.
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Location: Texas! | I agree with the others on the steep slope to the shoulder and front legs do seem set under her a bit...first pic makes her look like very angular in her pasterns but the others not as bad. Back longish (being picky but I am usually drawn to shorter backs) also as others have said I like more muscle in the hind end but hey my rodeo horse is downhill, pigeon toed short necked bla bla bla he can clock and I love him! I think she's a cutie! |
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Location: Florida.. | cheryl makofka - 2013-12-04 6:29 PM halter_ego - 2013-12-04 1:25 PM Well, since you asked.... Keep in mind I am looking at her from a perfomance perspective. To me she is a little short necked and steep shouldered, a little flat over the croup, and weak in her stifles and gaskins. Doesn't mean she isn't an awesome horse, just the things that stick out to me. I agree with this but also want to add her front legs are set too far underneath her, this will cause her to have a shorter stride, her hocks are a little higher then I like to see. Also want to comment all you can do is tone the muscle she has you cannot develop muscle she was not born with
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| She has the roughest trot, the smoothest walk, lope and gallop. But I am pretty sure the trot comes from her shoulder. We are working on collection and it has gotten better. She can stretch out and reach too, which is a little odd considering her straighter shoulder. She has yet to lose against another horse in a flat out race. I am just worried once in the barrel arena, she's gonna crap out on me and not go as fast as I know she can go with out another horse egging her on.
She is level headed, but gets hot easily, but seems to be liking barrels. She just loves to go and loves competition. When I got her, I wasn't into barrels, had thought about it but wasn't into it so...... But she seems to have the heart for it and running. She is very hard to get in tune with on the barrels as well. I am finding it hard to figure out how to accommodate her. But I'm learning.
She's not down hill, she is leveled and sometimes she'll stand over herself in the front end like in the second picture and sometimes she wont. When she stands completely square she doesn't do it as bad.
I don't know what to say though lol. She was a BYB accident that I bought 4 years ago. She is what she is, as someone else stated. Wouldn't probably be anybody's barrel choice. But she likes it. |
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