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| One that craps gold. - But I do this for a hobby - a money-losing hobby at that! |
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Location: sunny california | i expect a run down fixer upper house. that way I can rent it and generate income. this is why I don't have a high caliber horse! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Griz - 2013-12-05 5:28 AM One that craps gold. - But I do this for a hobby - a money-losing hobby at that!
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| A horse that does his own chores, cleans stalls, and rides itself, as well as poops out green that is cash, not poo.
If I WERE to pay that much for a horse, it better be good and be in the 1D ALL of the time, not including uncontrollables, like ground slippage, etc. Although, I'd say the horse would need to be fast enough to make up for it's mistakes. |
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Location: Kansas | Griz - 2013-12-05 5:28 AM One that craps gold. - But I do this for a hobby - a money-losing hobby at that!
Personally, I'd expect that horse to be winning local jackpots EVERYTIME, and at least placing (if not winning) at rodeos........the things I could do with $60,000!!! Wouldn't be spent on a horse, thats for sure! |
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| Agree with the others. Especially the house comment. Buy a house out of foreclosure and make money from it. $60000 is a lot if money for a animal that could break its leg to tomorrow. But I guess that's why you get them insured |
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Location: North Dakota | A horse that is broke with a good handle that will walk in the arena and walk out, no vices, anyone can ride. Naturally winning at rodeos and barrel races . A mare or a stud so reproduction is possible! No injections or voodoo needed to remain sound! |
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| I've never been in the market for a horse of this caliber or sold one of this caliber, just my thoughts based on what I've seen advertised.
There are so many variables - age, maintenance, any bad habits, record, etc. A younger horse with less of a performance record, but that is still proven to be a solid top of the 1D horse against tough competition might bring a similar price to a slightly older and more proven horse that requires maintenance or has some bad habits.
Search through the ads on here to see what kind of horses are in that price range. Of course you'll find some that are way over-priced for what they are, but you'll get a pretty good idea of what kind of horse you can get for this price. |
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Location: Texas | I'm with everyone else....
My first thought was a new truck or my dream of a BMW.
I will never pay that much for a horse. But I also never expect to make it to (or even try) the NFR. |
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Location: Colorado | Solid 1D at bigger shows, with rodeo capability, though I wouldn't expect him to win all the rodeos, but be able to hang in there. I feel like true big rodeo horses cost a LOT more than that. Horses that can win Greeley, Cheyanne, Reno, not just get close. |
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Location: South TEXAS | i would expect a very broke horse that can handle all the situations of rodeo life(if your looking at rodeo horses). I would expect it to place in top 5, 8 out of 10 runs against very tough competition. every horse will have a bad day and you cant hold the price tag against it when that happens.... as long as it doesn't happen twice lol. in local jackpots, I would expect it to be winning nearly every time and putting a few tenths between them and 2nd place. must have good ground manners and haul good. no major maintenance issues.
for that money I would want a 5-10yr, any older than that I would want a mare so that you could raise babies if need be.
I could never pay that amount for one but I do know what it takes to get those horses to that point.
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| HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows.....
This, at least in Texas. Our 45k horse with my daughter would win lD locally with 200 + entries and be just out of the 1D money at big shows. We competed against a jam up cutting bred horse in high school rodeo that was purchased for $2500- he won everything. He sold last year for 50K (which was a steal but sellers wanted him to go to a great home), runs 17.0s on a standard and has qualified for The American. Talent comes in all price ranges-if you can find it and develop it.
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| HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM
1d locally 2d big shows.....
What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol!
If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. |
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Location: Deep South | Are you wanting a supershow horse or a rodeo horse? If rodeo horse, I would expect that the horse is winning college rodeos(if applicable) or amateur rodeos and has a decent record of placing at some pro rodeos. And to be between about 7-12 with no major maintenance issues. I think it is completely unrealistic to expect to buy a horse that can win pro rodeos for $60k, unless you are going to buy a much older been there done that with maintenance. |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | Able to pull cheques at pro rodeos, top of 1d locally . Win 80 girl jackpots consistently, top 20 in super shows consistently . Make mistakes and still clock. Sound. Would expect consistent low 17s on Indoor standard.
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Location: ND | rodeomom3 - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... This, at least in Texas. Our 45k horse with my daughter would win lD locally with 200 + entries and be just out of the 1D money at big shows. We competed against a jam up cutting bred horse in high school rodeo that was purchased for $2500- he won everything. He sold last year for 50K (which was a steal but sellers wanted him to go to a great home), runs 17.0s on a standard and has qualified for The American. Talent comes in all price ranges-if you can find it and develop it.
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Location: Washington | A winning record at bigger venues.
Good barrel horses command top dollar. |
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Location: Deep South | HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM
1d locally 2d big shows.....
I agree with this. By big shows I mean HUGE shows, and maybe top of the 2D, maybe 1D but out of the money.
Those that think it's crazy, you have to think there's horses selling for $100k, $150k, $200k, how would they justify those prices if you could buy a horse for $60k and win the 1D all the time and go to the NFR? |
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Location: Texas | A horse that could win the BBR finals, D&D, the biggest open shows out there... Not seasoned to rodeos yet, not the easiest horse to ride but if you can ride the horse you can win. With that kind of money the best thing to do would be take 2 30k horses that have never been to rodeos before, season them and they might just make NFR horses, if not resell and try again.
A solid backup NFR caliber horse, not a stingray, or latte or duke. The horse that can place but will probably never layout an arena record rodeo run. More solid and probably over the age of 12. Needs hocks injected. Could get you to the NFR if you hauled to every rodeo and kept him/her sound all year.
Either way you will get a GOOD horse for 60k. The chances that it is your once in a lifetime horse or a horse that everyone remembers as the best are slim. |
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Location: Texas | JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money.
Too bad thats not reality. |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-05 9:54 AM
HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM
1d locally 2d big shows.....
I agree with this. By big shows I mean HUGE shows, and maybe top of the 2D, maybe 1D but out of the money.
Those that think it's crazy, you have to think there's horses selling for $100k, $150k, $200k, how would they justify those prices if you could buy a horse for $60k and win the 1D all the time and go to the NFR?
They can't justify them now! It's called to much money and not enough brains! |
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| outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money.
You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! |
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Location: Midwest | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 9:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... This, at least in Texas. Our 45k horse with my daughter would win lD locally with 200 + entries and be just out of the 1D money at big shows. We competed against a jam up cutting bred horse in high school rodeo that was purchased for $2500- he won everything. He sold last year for 50K (which was a steal but sellers wanted him to go to a great home), runs 17.0s on a standard and has qualified for The American. Talent comes in all price ranges-if you can find it and develop it.
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Location: ND | JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
maybe not but someone making a living at this would....i would spend spend half a million on a tractor and pencil that out.....for some people spending 60-200k on a horse makes sense in their business.....like paying several million for a stallion.....it's all about income generation....well....not all......for some it is no different than buying new boobs, wrinkle cream and a fancy house/barn/arena....but hey....if i had that kind of money to play with, i would.... |
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
A Stallion is different! |
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Location: ND | JRC - 2013-12-05 10:04 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! A Stallion is different!
not at all...think about it for a second.....a stallion owner is generating their income from breeding that horse.......which is no different than a professional, using their horse to win money for their income.....and just like a stallions offspring bring back in incentive money, increased breedings and value, a professional competitors success on a horse bring in sponsorship money, noteriety which leads to increased training and riding opportunities, etc........
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:10 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 10:04 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! A Stallion is different!
you are looking with way to narrow a vision...
ok, ok but I wouldn't be able to trust anyone enough to hand over 60 grand on the hopes to make it into the 2d, but this is coming from a poor white girl. You may be right if I was Darcy LaPier and married rich guys I might think differently! I think I would still take my chances with a few outstanding prospects and use that money towards a top notch trainer. |
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Location: ND | JRC - 2013-12-05 10:14 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:10 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 10:04 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse! A Stallion is different!
you are looking with way to narrow a vision... ok, ok but I wouldn't be able to trust anyone enough to hand over 60 grand on the hopes to make it into the 2d, but this is coming from a poor white girl. You may be right if I was Darcy LaPier and married rich guys I might think differently! I think I would still take my chances with a few outstanding prospects and use that money towards a top notch trainer.
well....that logic i tend to agree with....spending that kind of money you definitely need to know and trust the right connections... |
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| Honestly id prefer to but a $1000 horse and train it to be a $60000 horse. However if i has $60k and was in the market it would be one that get atleast hang with the big dogs  |
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Location: Florida.. | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 11:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
agree..
in my world it would get you a pretty nice lil horse going 1st -2nd level at top bigger shows..but its up to you to be successful.. it would have buttons and some quirks but know and can handle lower level and be a potential upper level.
if its a noname possibly local shows maybe a higher level one.
depends where you look, where its been promoted etc..who its with training etc..
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Location: Northern CA | One that can clean his own stall, saddle himself, and survive on dirt!
No really though, I know the "good" horses are probably worht it, but I cannot imagine spending even half this amount on a horse. |
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if I paid that for a horse …. to be served with divorce papers! |
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Location: California | azsun - 2013-12-05 9:28 AM what would i expect …. if I paid that for a horse …. to be served with divorce papers!
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Location: a secret | Remember years ago when there were no divisional races, horses values were quite different. The 4d and 5 d horse is valuable to someone, not all barrel racers want to or can ride a 1d horse. So with that said, I haven seen starter good kids horses in the 4d and they command good mone!y! so, if you want to get to the 1d the cost naturally increases. As you all are well aware when the reins change hands things happen, you may be able to ride or you may not. I think Lance Graves said it perfectly people will win and losers and lose on winners. I belive it is not only the cost that should come into play its the click factor........... If you are talented enough to train your own your lucky some of us are not. JMO>>>> |
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Location: North Dakota | I believe Molly Powell had a horse of hers that she ran at the NFR listed on here around that $60k range a couple years ago. |
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| Just Bring It - 2013-12-05 11:44 AM
I believe Molly Powell had a horse of hers that she ran at the NFR listed on here around that $60k range a couple years ago.
See it is realistic! |
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| JRC - 2013-12-05 10:46 AM
Just Bring It - 2013-12-05 11:44 AM
I believe Molly Powell had a horse of hers that she ran at the NFR listed on here around that $60k range a couple years ago.
See it is realistic!
Yes she had Kat for sale on here around that price!! Some lucky girl has her now! |
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| SassyPirate - 2013-12-05 11:55 AM
JRC - 2013-12-05 10:46 AM
Just Bring It - 2013-12-05 11:44 AM
I believe Molly Powell had a horse of hers that she ran at the NFR listed on here around that $60k range a couple years ago.
See it is realistic!
Yes she had Kat for sale on here around that price!! Some lucky girl has her now!
How old was she!! |
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Location: BETWEEN HOT FLASHES AND GERITOL | I would expect it to hook up the trailer and warm up the truck for me for that kinda money. lol |
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| Kat is a '99 model! And I might be mistaken, she might have had him for sale for $45,000! Either way that was a steal for that horse!
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
We have not spent 60K on a horse but have parted with a good chunk of $$ mounting our 3 girls. If you add together what we paid for the 4 in my pasture it is alot. We are fortunate that we can afford it, pay cash and it does not strain our finances. We never came close to making our money back and did not expect too, no different than people who buy expensive boats or take mega $$ vacations. We did it because it is what we enjoy and the girls loved it. I don't see how anybody who buys high dollar horses makes their $$ back- you have to hit the road hard to win enough $$. It is very small number who can get sponsors and financial help along the way. |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | rodeomom3 - 2013-12-05 11:27 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 10:03 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:59 AM outrundaizy - 2013-12-05 9:57 AM JRC - 2013-12-05 9:49 AM HotPants - 2013-12-05 9:39 AM 1d locally 2d big shows..... What!! 2D for 60 grand! lol! If I paid 60 for a horse I better be at the NFR the next year, and he better of at least doubled my money. You're right because I would never spend that on a horse!
I was once told by a lady I work with that she considered it a financial investment in her son and was considerably cheaper than bailing him out of jail....
But the OP specifically asked what would you expect to get and not whether this is concerning children or herself...buying for my child or for myself. it's like comparing apples and oranges. |
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Location: MD | The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?! |
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| WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 1:25 PM
The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?!
Pretty amazing isn't it?
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| DD2012 - 2013-12-05 1:41 PM WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 1:25 PM The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?! Pretty amazing isn't it?
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Location: ND | fatchance - 2013-12-05 1:45 PM This thread has been an eye opener.
your eyes were open long before this...... |
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Location: Washington | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 11:46 AM fatchance - 2013-12-05 1:45 PM This thread has been an eye opener.
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| Minimum maintenance to me is hocks and stifles. I had one that had to have knee injections every 3 months, hocks and stifles every 4 to 6. It also had numerous other issues to deal with from ulcers and epm. He was basically a money pit. Looking at Equistat that wasn't the case. If what you are putting in them is more than what you are winning what's the use? |
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| Just Bring It - 2013-12-05 9:44 AM
I believe Molly Powell had a horse of hers that she ran at the NFR listed on here around that $60k range a couple years ago.
Not saying this was the case here, BUT - When you see a top horse for a lower amount of money, there can be some soundness issues that accompany that price or other "holes". Otherwise they could go for a lot more money. When a deal looks too good to be true, it is. |
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Location: MD | I am on the East Coast. I travel from New York to GA mostly, attending Super Shows, Youth Worlds, Open Worlds and the like. I can guarantee you that even at most of our local shows, you are going to be facing horses that have won World titles, multiple Super Show wins, won Go rounds at World level shows, etc... The winning horses that are for sale in the $50,000 to $75,000 range can be found. They typically will require maintenance, may be difficult to ride, be less than consistent, or they may be a horse that you're either going to hit a barrel on, win, or safety up on and be bottom of the 1D/top of 2D, but they are out there. At least, that's my experience. |
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| WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 2:23 PM
I am on the East Coast. I travel from New York to GA mostly, attending Super Shows, Youth Worlds, Open Worlds and the like. I can guarantee you that even at most of our local shows, you are going to be facing horses that have won World titles, multiple Super Show wins, won Go rounds at World level shows, etc... The winning horses that are for sale in the $50,000 to $75,000 range can be found. They typically will require maintenance, may be difficult to ride, be less than consistent, or they may be a horse that you're either going to hit a barrel on, win, or safety up on and be bottom of the 1D/top of 2D, but they are out there. At least, that's my experience.
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Location: MD | JRC - 2013-12-05 2:24 PM
WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 2:23 PM
I am on the East Coast. I travel from New York to GA mostly, attending Super Shows, Youth Worlds, Open Worlds and the like. I can guarantee you that even at most of our local shows, you are going to be facing horses that have won World titles, multiple Super Show wins, won Go rounds at World level shows, etc... The winning horses that are for sale in the $50,000 to $75,000 range can be found. They typically will require maintenance, may be difficult to ride, be less than consistent, or they may be a horse that you're either going to hit a barrel on, win, or safety up on and be bottom of the 1D/top of 2D, but they are out there. At least, that's my experience.
So how much are the winners going for?
I know of several horses who have sold in the last year to year and a half that are capable of winning and have won at the top level (who I have also seen be out of the 2D money on more than a couple of occasions) that have sold for anywhere from $100,000 to $220,000. There are so many variables involved when it comes to pricing a nice horse. For instance, I know one who sold for in excess of $200k that is pretty much uninsurable. |
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Location: Midwest | JRC - 2013-12-05 2:24 PM WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 2:23 PM I am on the East Coast. I travel from New York to GA mostly, attending Super Shows, Youth Worlds, Open Worlds and the like. I can guarantee you that even at most of our local shows, you are going to be facing horses that have won World titles, multiple Super Show wins, won Go rounds at World level shows, etc... The winning horses that are for sale in the $50,000 to $75,000 range can be found. They typically will require maintenance, may be difficult to ride, be less than consistent, or they may be a horse that you're either going to hit a barrel on, win, or safety up on and be bottom of the 1D/top of 2D, but they are out there. At least, that's my experience. So how much are the winners going for?
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Location: Western performance horse Hades | Some more examples of horses that have sold in the $60-65,000 range.
A consistent working 8-year-old mare that was a 1D senior winner, open 1D money earner/2D winner.
An occasional check drawer at CPRA rodeos, occassionally 1D money at Wrap N 3s, most 2D major shows. Teenageer with general maintanance.
A coming 5-year-old that did well at one futurity,had a 1D win at a national level race, but still not 100 percent consistent. Color & popular bloodlines. |
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Location: ILLINOIS | If I was REQUIRED to buy a horse with the $60,000 it would need to:
1. Be a consistent 1D horse every run locally, placing in the top 5, even with errors.
2. Be a consistent 1D rodeo horse or near the top of the pack.
3. Be safe and sane.
4. Calm and easy to get a long with
5. Have awesome bloodlines with proven parents.
6. Not have any maintenance issues.
7. Be around 8-10yrs old and no previous injuries.
8. MARE
9. Youth safe
10. Not accident prone!!!
What I would REALLY do with $60k...
1. Build a new barn.
2. Buy me a Dodge Challenger SRT8
3. Buy me a new Dodge 2500.
4. Build a house.
5. Buy me a new horse trailer...
Lol.. I honestly spent $6500 on a horse, and thought that was wayyyy tooo much!!! |
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Location: Deep South | Schuy324 - 2013-12-05 4:14 PM
If I was REQUIRED to buy a horse with the $60,000 it would need to:
1. Be a consistent 1D horse every run locally, placing in the top 5, even with errors.
2. Be a consistent 1D rodeo horse or near the top of the pack.
3. Be safe and sane.
4. Calm and easy to get a long with
5. Have awesome bloodlines with proven parents.
6. Not have any maintenance issues.
7. Be around 8-10yrs old and no previous injuries.
8. MARE
9. Youth safe
10. Not accident prone!!!
What I would REALLY do with $60k...
1. Build a new barn.
2. Buy me a Dodge Challenger SRT8
3. Buy me a new Dodge 2500.
4. Build a house.
5. Buy me a new horse trailer...
Lol.. I honestly spent $6500 on a horse, and thought that was wayyyy tooo much!!!
I think you're missing a 0 if you expect all that... |
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| Schuy324 - 2013-12-05 2:14 PM If I was REQUIRED to buy a horse with the $60,000 it would need to: 1. Be a consistent 1D horse every run locally, placing in the top 5, even with errors. 2. Be a consistent 1D rodeo horse or near the top of the pack. 3. Be safe and sane. 4. Calm and easy to get a long with 5. Have awesome bloodlines with proven parents. 6. Not have any maintenance issues. 7. Be around 8-10yrs old and no previous injuries. 8. MARE 9. Youth safe 10. Not accident prone!!! What I would REALLY do with $60k... 1. Build a new barn. 2. Buy me a Dodge Challenger SRT8 3. Buy me a new Dodge 2500. 4. Build a house. 5. Buy me a new horse trailer... Lol.. I honestly spent $6500 on a horse, and thought that was wayyyy tooo much!!!
Those 2 things cannot be found in the same horse, at least for any long length of time. When they run that hard, they are bound to have things that need maintenance. I guess it also depends on what your definition of "maintenance" is. Supplements? Injections? Wraps (BOT, ice boots, etc.)? Thera Plate? Game Ready?
The amount of stuff that the rodeo girls do to their horses to keep them in top shape is quite astonishing! I am just talking about the therapeutic blankets and wraps and supplements and salt water treatment spas |
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| I know of a horse that sold for $60k, I asked a local trainer/broker and she said she thought the horse sold for the correct price. This horse can make the circuit finals (fairly tough circuit), has won/placed at big pro rodeos runs mid to low on standard sets at rodeos, not NFR quality though IMO. Also this mare is over 10 but very very sound and is by one of the top sires. |
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Location: ND | so would it be less of a discussion if we had a 10k horse that we hauled around in a 50k pickup and 40k trailer........ |
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| zipper - 2013-12-05 2:14 PM
Some more examples of horses that have sold in the $60-65,000 range.
A consistent working 8-year-old mare that was a 1D senior winner, open 1D money earner/2D winner.
An occasional check drawer at CPRA rodeos, occassionally 1D money at Wrap N 3s, most 2D major shows. Teenageer with general maintanance.
A coming 5-year-old that did well at one futurity,had a 1D win at a national level race, but still not 100 percent consistent. Color & popular bloodlines.
Or a nice 3 year old prospect
There's been a handful of those sold in recent years at the sales and probably privately as well! |
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 4:40 PM
so would it be less of a discussion if we had a 10k horse that we hauled around in a 50k pickup and 40k trailer........
Hahaha yep!!! I'd rather have all the $$ in my horse and not in a rig. But that's just me. |
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| I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy. |
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| roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM
I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 4:40 PM
so would it be less of a discussion if we had a 10k horse that we hauled around in a 50k pickup and 40k trailer........
I think this is too funny.... people will dog someone all day for paying that much for a horse, but they may roll up in a 15 year old one ton pickup and 2 horse bumper pull... and put a whooping on them! Then the people with the big rig will whine because they can't afford that kind of horse. News flash! It doesn't matter what you roll up in, it's what you pull out of the trailer |
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| Justawannabe - 2013-12-05 6:28 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 4:40 PM so would it be less of a discussion if we had a 10k horse that we hauled around in a 50k pickup and 40k trailer........ I think this is too funny.... people will dog someone all day for paying that much for a horse, but they may roll up in a 15 year old one ton pickup and 2 horse bumper pull... and put a whooping on them! Then the people with the big rig will whine because they can't afford that kind of horse. News flash! It doesn't matter what you roll up in, it's what you pull out of the trailer
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| A house!
I guess these days you'd be lucky to get a new pickup for that.....sigh.....
Edited to add: almost 9 years ago, on my last horse shopping trip, I was repeatedly told that if I was looking for a rodeo ready horse (not NFR quality mind you), look to spend $50-75K for starters. In my dreams.....
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| The price of horses has really increased over the past ten years I love to ride ,like showing but haven't been able to get my hands on the right young horses ,I don't have a lot to spend about $5000.for two year olds...but I keep trying maybe I ll find one .have had quite a few nice ones,but my local nbha shows are tough,pretty pricey money has been given and sold,happy for the ones who sell them and the lucky ones able to buy,60000.would buy you a local horse might place in amateur at the congress. |
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| I live in North Texas where at a local jackpot we will have Fallon and Michelle McCloud show up on Slick and BabyFlo not to mention other horses that are just as tough. Michelle's daughters run some horses owned by High Point also that are pro horses easily. Here if your horse is running in the same D as these horses they are worth some serious money! I have always trained my own horses because I could not afford 60,000+ horses BUT I have trained some that will hold their own against NFR horses and the one I have now I would not sell for 60K. Call me crazy but I know how much work I have put into that horse and how rare of an athlete he is. If you guys owned any one of these NFR horses your telling me you would sell them for 60K???? I sure wouldn't!!! They just don't come along that often I think that is what people don't realize sometimes. To me I don't mind all the work and hauling I have to put into one, but the fact is they are rare athletes! |
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| Not to mention when Slick BabyFlo and Dial It are getting outrun at Northside in FT Worth which is just a UPRA (ammy rodeo association) rodeo don't tell me that a 60,000 horse should be winning all the CPRA and UPRA rodeos they show up to. Yeah right!!! |
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Location: ILLINOIS | I just dont like spending big bucks. lol. Only reason my list was so outrageous. lhh.. |
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| Good horses are worth a lot of money.
The more consistent they are-the more they are worth.
As other posts said-you are still going to get a good horse with 1D credentials. It is just a matter of how consistent they place there.
Those types of horses pay their way though. If you haul every weekend and place in the 1D in ONE class in one weekend your entry fees, fuel, ect. are pretty much covered. At the very least you are breaking even.
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Location: Florida.. | WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 2:25 PM The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?!
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| roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.
If I spent 60,000 on a horse I'd figure out a way to ride it. For that kind of money he should come with a brain and be smart enough to compensate (somewhat) for rider error.
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| cinch - 2013-12-05 10:10 PM
roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.
Please note I said somewhat.
I have to disagree with ya some here, if you want to ride at that level, you HAVE to be willing to be on your A game just as much as your horse is. People do NOT win tough rodeos or win/place in big 1Ds without them being on their A game just as much, if not more than the horse. A good horse is very very very rarely good because it protects its rider. You as a rider help that horse make those perfect runs. If you can't jockey that caliber of a horse, you shouldn't buy one with the expectations that he will run like he did with the current jockey! This isn't aimed at you I just hate to hear people say things like this about high dollar horses! Most $60k horses are priced like that because of their ability, not because of how easy they are to ride! Like I say cinch this isnt aimed at you, I know you said "somewhat", but just putting in my opinion!!
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| cinch - 2013-12-05 8:10 PM
roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.
Please note I said somewhat.
for that kind of $$ I would SERIOUSLY invest in a trainer so I could ride said horse. If I spent that, you bet your britches that I would have a top rider in my area keep the horse tuned up and try to get me dialed in with my 4 legged rocket. Yet...I would treat him like the 9 karat diamond that he would be, magnets, chiropractors, ice-vibe boots, whatever it took to keep this horse tip-top. If you drop that kind of $ into a horse and not maintain it in all ways, you deserve to end up with a problem. Unfortunately at the big hunter/jumper barns where I grew up, that was all too common. |
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Location: Oklahoma | cinch - 2013-12-05 10:10 PM
roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.
Please note I said somewhat.
I have one of those horses, and I've tried and tried to be able to ride him. He runs 3D/4D with me because I'm scared of his speed and hold him back, but I can turn around, put a high school girl on him who has no fear, and she'll outrun me a full second or more. I used to be able to ride that kind, but I can't now, and I'm not even sure I want to any more. Hence why he's for sale....and he's not $60K....but he's in the older age bracket and that's why. You have to be VERY strong to ride those kinds of horses and also fearless. I am neither anymore. |
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| I have one of those horses, and I've tried and tried to be able to ride him. He runs 3D/4D with me because I'm scared of his speed and hold him back, but I can turn around, put a high school girl on him who has no fear, and she'll outrun me a full second or more. I used to be able to ride that kind, but I can't now, and I'm not even sure I want to any more. Hence why he's for sale....and he's not $60K....but he's in the older age bracket and that's why. You have to be VERY strong to ride those kinds of horses and also fearless. I am neither anymore.
I am kind of in the same boat, but a beginner to the sport of barrel racing, so hold back because I am afraid to go full tilt. My horse is nowhere NEAR a $60k horse, but she will go as fast as you ask...which for me is the 4D. This is why the divisional races are great. For those of us who CAN'T or WON'T go full tilt...we don't get left in the cold. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | HorseMommyFiveO - 2013-12-05 5:16 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 4:40 PM so would it be less of a discussion if we had a 10k horse that we hauled around in a 50k pickup and 40k trailer........ Hahaha yep!!! I'd rather have all the $$ in my horse and not in a rig. But that's just me.
Isn't that the truth lol. I don't have a $60,000 horse, but it's obvious that I put my money into my horses when you see the truck and trailer I'm driving around lol......even my clothes for that matter....it's difficult to find clothes at my house that don't have a hole in them somewhere....I wear them until they fall off of me.... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | I fully expect someone to beat my dumb a$$ for spending that much on a black hole that will do nothing but absorb more money.. |
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Location: North Dakota | Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! |
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Location: NC | For $60,000 I expect a horse that can pay my bills!!!! |
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Location: Deep South | angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM
Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special!
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| Ooooo, he's NICE. You still make it look easy. 
ETA: I was trying to reply to Dianne. Oops.
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Location: Beggs, OK | WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 1:25 PM The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?!
That's what had me shaking my head too...All you read on here is stories people are telling about maintenance on horses that I wouldn't even put in my trailer.
The top horses require maintenance because they tear themselves up trying and giving you that extra heart that you are never going to get out of your 3D horse that hates it's job.
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| Komet - 2013-12-06 5:46 AM
I fully expect someone to beat my dumb a$$ for spending that much on a black hole that will do nothing but absorb more money..
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| We sold a horse for 50 k a few years ago and the person who got him got a solid broke 1D trail riding, easy to haul, handle, and work with horse. Any one who could hang with him could ride him. He snaps a barrel so fast not many can stay with him, but anyone could trail ride him. |
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This is stolen from another thread!
Pure Victory Dash won the Futurity in 2008, FM Radio was second. Boogie Woogie Jones and Angie Meadors won the Juvenile that year. Angie Grandprie also won the BBR Finals earlier that year on Pure Victory Dash. She was sold through the Heritage place sale in 2010 for $50,000.
http://www.heritageplace.com/sales_2010/Winter2010/HighestSellingBroodmare.pdf
It's not too unrealistic to expect a 60 grand horse to take you to the nfr!
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| JRC - 2013-12-06 12:00 PM
Just to be a smart a$$!!
This is stolen from another thread!
Pure Victory Dash won the Futurity in 2008, FM Radio was second. Boogie Woogie Jones and Angie Meadors won the Juvenile that year. Angie Grandprie also won the BBR Finals earlier that year on Pure Victory Dash. She was sold through the Heritage place sale in 2010 for $50,000.
http://www.heritageplace.com/sales_2010/Winter2010/HighestSellingBroodmare.pdf
It's not to unrealistic to expect a 60 grand horse to take you to the nfr!
Yes, but she certainly doesn't meet some people's requirements of being calm! LOL. She looks to be a bit of a handful. She was also not seasoned in rodeos yet when purchased. Sydni has most likely put in some time, and miles on getting her to the point of running down the alley at the T&M. Her price would likely have doubled now. |
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Location: North Dakota | BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-06 9:10 AM angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! Might want to check your research....
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Location: wolverton,mn | Just Bring It - 2013-12-06 2:23 PM BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-06 9:10 AM angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! Might want to check your research....Big DITTO!
No kidding! Wow! Then when people can't ride a really nice horse the horse takes the hit!
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| hotbear03 - 2013-12-06 7:09 PM Just Bring It - 2013-12-06 2:23 PM BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-06 9:10 AM angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! Might want to check your research....Big DITTO!
Wrapnsnap knows what I mean!
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what do you EXPECT to get for $60,000?