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wyoming barrel racer
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 so no puking and saying I didn't warn you.

My Firewater Finale colt got into a beef with something and lost I would say. Here is before and after pictures.

Biggest issue is keeping it somewhat warm so it can begin to heal. I don't have a heated barn, but he is being kept inside out of the wind and snow. He has clean straw and is on meds and I clean it several times a day with disinfectent.

I am using horse sized lycra shoulder guards for now (and he keeps getting out of them somehow) until the small horse one comes. I also have a friend giving me a blanket that will fit him. Hoping with the shoulder guard it won't rub on him. But I don't have my hopes up.

The vet had to hack off the hanging bits, he was out in the corral in 30 below temps for as long as 4 hours like this. Vet said the hide was frozen and dead and had to be cut off. He also narrowly missed tearing out his trachea in whatever process he got himself into.

I have all sorts of sprays and creams etc. I have never had any luck with Veterycin but figured what the hay and have been spraying it on this as it seems less "stingy" as some of the other things I have.

So let's hear it. I want this kiddo healed up as pretty as can be




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wow! well, it looks a lot better from picture 1 to picture 2.  Do you think he get hung up on a post or something?  
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This happened to my old man. We had to put an inflated tire tube around his neck to keep him from scratching it with his teath and tearing out the stiches. He drug 50' of barbed wire across his chest while he walked a fence line after breaking the top strand. I think it actually looks pretty good. The best thing our vet had us do was to spray it with cold water from a hose until it was pink every day, but that doesnt work this time of year:( Just keep it as clean as you can. Good luck!
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Reg. Oct 2006
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keep on with your program. it looks great !! 
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Well, the vet did a nice job there. My sister's paint colt tore a hunk out of himself that was that bad, maybe worse, and Vetricyn did wonders on it. The scar is minimal and you could put your whole fist in the wound when it happened. So, how about making a figure 8 dressing that goes over his withers and through the center of his legs with some velcro end ace bandages. You could use 2 or 3 of those together with an maxi pad or two over the wound itself. The blanket would definitely help if you can get your hands on one. Just hope he doesn't bust those sutures open...... 
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When the Boy lost most of his neck after being stomped by Zan it was a bit later into the winter than this.  No, we don't get quite as cold here as WY, but his first weeks were during a 3 punch snow storm that laid down over 40" of snow, so it was cold.  I don't even have a barn, so other than the few days he spent in the clinic with his medical maggot treatment, he was in half a run in shed with a gate across the front.  I had to clean and spray with aluminum spray 3 times daily.  See if that spray is an option for this wound?  I did not cover the Boy's wound, nor did we close it with stitches at any time.  It healed VERY well, and actually grew back a ton of hair.  I wish I had a current pic of it, but here it is before maggots.  This was three hoof print large:

 




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Posted 2013-12-09 3:37 PM
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HOLY QUACAMOLY!!!!!

Someone that I'm friends with on facebook commented on that photo...so I saw it on facebook. All I can say is many prayers and I hope it heals!!!
 
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Posted 2013-12-09 3:39 PM
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Pic 1-pic 2...what a difference.  I would use Underwoods and Baking Powder on it.  I had a mare that gashed herself open way worse than that from the front of her chest down and back up to her girth area.  Started Underwoods and it healed without a scar.  Amazing stuff.  
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Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-12-09 3:40 PM
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Darn, he sure did a number to himself!!  I don't have any wound advise to offer, just prayers!! 
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Posted 2013-12-09 3:42 PM
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 I had no luck with Underwoods and baking powder  on a  hard to heal wound but vetericyn did the trick.  One good thing about winter is you don't have to worry about flies.   Good luck, I had a FF baby that was the best minded baby.

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total performance - 2013-12-09 4:39 PM Pic 1-pic 2...what a difference.  I would use Underwoods and Baking Powder on it.  I had a mare that gashed herself open way worse than that from the front of her chest down and back up to her girth area.  Started Underwoods and it healed without a scar.  Amazing stuff.  

This is what i would do as well. Prayers for quick and complete healing. 
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Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2013-12-09 3:44 PM
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yikes.... i had a horse i cared for years ago with the whole shoulder exposed..... i would scrub it 2x aday with betadine.... use scarlett oil on it then apply the alumasheild so it would keep it clean but breath..... good luck....
 
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Posted 2013-12-09 3:46 PM
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to offer that underlying skin some protection from the subzero temps we are having you could try covering it with a chuk pad and gorilla tape?? That tapes sticks to anything. Might pull some shoulder hairs out in the process, but it would at least be something. 
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Posted 2013-12-09 3:49 PM
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I had something kinda similar, mine tore a l-shape of skin like that and had a hole in his chest and my vet said hydro therapy also.  It healed perfect.  Good luck! Sorry this happened.
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Posted 2013-12-09 3:53 PM
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What we have found that works wonders is washing the wound with warm salt water- just dabbing at it with a cloth.

Once you have it washed apply a mixture of tea tree oil, baby powder, and canola oil (mix it up into a paste). We haven't had one cut up quite to this extent since we started using this (as per a naturopath's instruction), but we have a super accident prone mare who we've used this on numerous times on nasty cuts on her legs, and she has very minimal scarring.

Good luck! I would have high hopes for that wound- I've seen some nasty ones heal up to look pretty darn good, and that doesn't really look like it's gone into the muscle too badly which definitely makes it easier!
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Posted 2013-12-09 4:09 PM
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thank you all. Vet preferred hydro as well, we just don't think it is a good idea with our temps :(

I like the figure 8 bandabe idea. I have cotton in rolls and lots of guaze of assorted sizes and lengths. I'm afraid the cotton will stick to the wound bad. We are an hour from the closest vet and 2 from anywhere that sells vet stuff so I try and keep a ton of things on hand. Of course I haven't had anything quite like this before.

He really has a great mind. I haven't played with him in 2 months. My father n law helped walk behind him and we loaded him out of the corral. I got to the vet and got in with him and haltered him and then led him out and into her heated clinic through a snow drift in front of the door. He was such a trooper.  

The vet is also worried about him chewing on the stitches especially when it starts to heal and itch.
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-09 4:10 PM
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I've never had one that bad. But the larger wounds I've had healed up great with vetericyn. I suggest using it as often as you can. The more times a day I applied it, the better/faster the wound healed. 
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Posted 2013-12-09 4:12 PM
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This is the worst one we had and it was on a untouched foal still on the mare. He was my keeper so at least he wasn't already sold. We didn't do anything for it but keep an eye on it. It healed wonderful. There was nothing to stitch and it was in a much cleaner environment in pasture with less dirt and flies than in the corral.

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WOW! that is CRAZY!! I would definitely feed him THE NutraWound! Maybe some Calming Cookies to keep him relaxed and not thinking about how he can rip out his stitches or rub anything off that you do put on it. Looks a ton better in the second picture! Had a good vet stitch him up.
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To avoid the cotton sticking to the wound try putting on neosporin (Very small amount). My dog had his paws torn up from a fence and I had the same issue with the bandage sticking to his wound. It worked great and it kept the wound from itching.

*** That photo was hard to look at. I havent seen something that bad in years. I hope your lil guy recovers quick!
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I had one with a shoulder injury similar to this -- he impaled himself on a tree branch as best as I could figure -- and I used Wonder Dust/Vetricyn on the wound.  It healed completely and I was pretty impressed by it since it happened in the wintertime and washing wasn't an option with him either.  My vet also had him on antibiotics -- shot plus a feed through if I remember right -- so that helped.  
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 Maxi Pads won't stick....instead of the cotton. He's going to bite at it, so I'd possibly try a cut out sweat shirt over his head and maybe half cut sleeves polo wrapped down his legs.....until you get the blanket.
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those darn firewater finale babies.........mine did a number on her self when she was less than a week old........close to 100 stitches to put her back together..........and of course they all pulled out.....and i tried a lot of stuff on her and when i started to use underwoods is when it started to heal........i love that stuff and keep it stocked at home..............

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ps. she is turning 5 this year and you cant see her scars unless you really look 
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Not sure what resources you have available...

BUT....

We have a hyperbaric chamber that is $200.00 a treatment...

We put a horse through three treatments....

That will heal wounds VERY fast. Pretty cool to see and was worth the $600.00 for us.
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I had a filly do this at 6 months old, around this time. I would hydro it and put the sulfer meds on it and then a blanket so she couldn't rub it or touch it. Hope this helps ya!
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Poor baby!! Prayers <3
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I've had to dr a few wounds in this below zero wheather. What I did was fill an ice cream bucket with warm water and Hibiclens (chlorhexidine) but you can use iodine or antibacterial soap. I put 4x4 in the bucket (you can use paper towels or baby wipes) and a 60 cc syringe for irrigating. I syringe the water and get on the wound 5 -10 times and then wipe off the rest of the drainage with 4x4s and apply a topical wound cream. My vets give me silvadene so thats what i used. I had a weanling this fall I did it with with a hand size chunk of missing hide on his side. .
The biggest thing is getting all the drainage and dried crud off of the wound and keeping wound from getting infected. The weanling with the side wound I didn't bandage. It healed up pretty fast and his hair all grew back.

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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2013-12-09 5:21 PM
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Thank you for all the ideas. I have Veterycin (sp?) on hand so am using it for  now and have Underwoods on order. I'm a Shreiners fan myself, but I just think this is too big and open for something that I know can sting.

I put the shoulder guards on again tonight and tied them under his belly (they are horse sized) I don't think he can wiggle out of them this time. I doubled them up to give some warmth and keep the straw from sticking to him. He's such a good kid. 

As for what happened. We have no idea. He was in the corral on the opposite side of the gate where he should have been. I think they got to running and playing and he was pushed over the gate. It is 5 ft maybe a tad under. It is round panel type gate so no sharp edges and not a dent anywhere (and there should be from a horse landing on it). Both corrals are wooden planks and no T posts. There were 2 Rambouillet rams in the pen he was found in. They are normally typical sheep and scared to death of horses so I wonder if they didn't accidentally snag him with a horn if they got panicked and got to running around in there.  They aren't "hooky" like a bull, more of a pund you into the ground type thing. But the height is just right -his chest/their horns. Here is what they look like for the non sheep peeps.

 

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 Vetericyn - the veterinary strength spray gel. Miracle in a bottle :)
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Posted 2013-12-09 10:03 PM
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 Are you friends with Chelsea (Tanner) Kroes on facebook?  If not,  Her big gelding Cash got torn open this summer. he looked like he had a bite taken out by a shark.  he looks AMAZING now.  Maybe contact her and ask what all she treated Cash with.

I've never personally used Vetericyn.  I've had a lot of good results with Eclipse Wound Wash but I've never treated anything this major with Eclipse.  I'm sure if you contact them, they'd give you thei advice on treatment.
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wyoming barrel racer - 2013-12-09 3:21 PM

Thank you for all the ideas. I have Veterycin (sp?) on hand so am using it for  now and have Underwoods on order. I'm a Shreiners fan myself, but I just think this is too big and open for something that I know can sting.

I put the shoulder guards on again tonight and tied them under his belly (they are horse sized) I don't think he can wiggle out of them this time. I doubled them up to give some warmth and keep the straw from sticking to him. He's such a good kid. 

As for what happened. We have no idea. He was in the corral on the opposite side of the gate where he should have been. I think they got to running and playing and he was pushed over the gate. It is 5 ft maybe a tad under. It is round panel type gate so no sharp edges and not a dent anywhere (and there should be from a horse landing on it). Both corrals are wooden planks and no T posts. There were 2 Rambouillet rams in the pen he was found in. They are normally typical sheep and scared to death of horses so I wonder if they didn't accidentally snag him with a horn if they got panicked and got to running around in there.  They aren't "hooky" like a bull, more of a pund you into the ground type thing. But the height is just right -his chest/their horns. Here is what they look like for the non sheep peeps.

 

Stick with the Schreiners! That stuff works for everything, big or small! I, too, have used it for years and nothing has ever worked better. My yearling tore her face up this spring when she had a tantrum at the patience tree. Of course it was on a Sunday evening, so I had to call the local equine hospital instead of my regular vet. They charged me $1200 for stitches that tore through the skin and popped open three days later. I couldn't afford to have her stitched again so I just sprayed it with Schreiners twice a day and left it open, skin hanging down and all. It healed perfectly, no scar, and completely covered back up with hair. As far as stinging, I've never had a horse act up when being doctored with it. I have used it on my own open wounds and it does sting for about a second, but then it completely goes away and doesn't sting anymore. I'll attach a pic of my filly's wound. Not nearly as big as yours, but I have used it on other large open wounds with the same great results.



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Can't say enough good things about hydrotherapy. I know you're working against the weather, but if he were mine, I'd find a way to make it happen! Best of luck :)
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This is my back up hors that I was working on until she hooked herself on our alleyway. Lots of stitches, but the flap died so had to cut the flap off later which left a gaping hole. Lots and lots of hydrotherapy, blu-kote, horseman's aloe vera cream, and vetercyn. And I have her on forco and platinum supplements. This happened in June and we finally are almost healed. Hydrotherapy is the best, big believer in it. At least you won't have to deal with flies..we went through three fly sheets this summer.

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Underwoods. It WILL work. I can promise you that. I have had plenty of experience with it & can tell you that IT WORKS. With minimal muss & fuss. Just spray it on, dust it with baking powder, & leave it alone. Twice-three times a day & it will be start to improve in days.

Here's what my gelding did. He was run into the fence by my other mare, got hung up on the tensioner. This was only a few weeks worth of treatment. HE NEVER SAW A VET. All I did was start spraying it with the Underwoods right away & kept a blanket on him. Now, you can't even see a scar.





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I swear by Vetericyn ...it's like first few days it does a great job keeping infection out and then it willspeed healing within a couple more...I am always amazed at how great it works and on the different types of wounds... had one of my geldings try to scalp his forehead off and it healed with no scar...the gaping wound was bgger then my hand and nothing to stitch. I've used it on small and big wounds...deep wounds..ive bought the eye ointment and it healed one of my dogs eyes that had been punctured and was getting a cataract looking film ..vet said hed be blind in that eye...started using the ointment and you cant even tell it ever happened now...even the vet was amazed...its my go to med on the ranch...and for your horses injury it would be perfect..use the gel spray because it will keep it moist and sterile longer...but that stuff will keep infection out and it will heal amazingly fast and well...
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total performance - 2013-12-09 3:39 PM

Pic 1-pic 2...what a difference.  I would use Underwoods and Baking Powder on it.  I had a mare that gashed herself open way worse than that from the front of her chest down and back up to her girth area.  Started Underwoods and it healed without a scar.  Amazing stuff.  

Exactly. This is a perfect wound for Underwoods!
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wyoming barrel racer - 2013-12-09 4:12 PM This is the worst one we had and it was on a untouched foal still on the mare. He was my keeper so at least he wasn't already sold. We didn't do anything for it but keep an eye on it. It healed wonderful. There was nothing to stitch and it was in a much cleaner environment in pasture with less dirt and flies than in the corral.

Same story with this little guy, except he had to be caught and trimmed like the OP's horse. He's 3 now and you can feel  with your hand where the muscle is missing, but it doesn't bother him a bit.
This pic is when it was almost healed.

 




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  I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how well it heals. Hang in there!
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Add about a tablespoon of turmeric to his feed. It will help with the itching
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No advice here but I did have a lot of luck with Underwoods in dealing with my worst case. Just sending your little guy and you good thoughts for healing
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total performance - 2013-12-09 1:39 PM Pic 1-pic 2...what a difference.  I would use Underwoods and Baking Powder on it.  I had a mare that gashed herself open way worse than that from the front of her chest down and back up to her girth area.  Started Underwoods and it healed without a scar.  Amazing stuff.  
Underwoods is the amazing stuff.  I have never found anything that works better.  And it doesn't seem to sting too bad.  ETA:  It is also easy to use in the winter because you are not supposed to clean the wound at all.  Just spray on and cover with baking powder as many times a day as you can manage.  It works great, especially on fleshy wounds like this.

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I would try Equaide. Look it up on line and see the results. I have used it twice and I was amazed at how fast the wound disappeared. You could see the difference in the size of it from one day to the next. No proud flesh. I would clean first with Vetricyn and then apply the Equaide. I think you'll be amazed. Sorry I don't have any pictures.
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where can I get Underwoods? I thought I had some on the way but it fell through. Their pictures on facebook had a wound just like this, but a T post caused theirs and the recovery was amazing.  I did a google search and got everything but a place to order it and didn't find any on ebay doing a quick search. Anyone on here sell it? I'm all for supporting our board members. Thanks for the nice thoughts. The vet called to check on him. I told her it isn't any better...but not any worse either. She laughed and said that is a good thing. 

 
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wyoming barrel racer - 2013-12-10 1:52 PM where can I get Underwoods? I thought I had some on the way but it fell through. Their pictures on facebook had a wound just like this, but a T post caused theirs and the recovery was amazing.  I did a google search and got everything but a place to order it and didn't find any on ebay doing a quick search. Anyone on here sell it? I'm all for supporting our board members. Thanks for the nice thoughts. The vet called to check on him. I told her it isn't any better...but not any worse either. She laughed and said that is a good thing. 



 

 Here is there  website, I had a baby cut her back leg open pretty bad and vetracyn was not touching it along with some other things people had suggested so I ordered this and it was amazing how fast it started healing ! And the old fella is so helpful ! He will talk your ear off ! He is very wise on horse wounds and said he was there 24/7 and to call anytime !http://www.underwoodhorsemedicine.com/
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If it were me, I would wash at least 2-3 times a day with warm soap and water, using a soft brush.  That would be the biggest priority.  The Veterycin might help too, but warm soapy water would be the most important.  I like dial soap or something bacteriocidal.  Maybe the best approach would be to wash, then blot dry, and spray with Veterycin.  I don't think "covering" it would be very helpful, especially since you are keeping the stall clean.  He might fuss at first, but they get used to it.   You are basically debriding the wound, and that is the most important thing.  It looks great!
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We had a horse that looked like this from coming down on a t-post and impaling himself in the chest. The vet said there wasn't much we could do about it except try to keep it clean. However, we did have an odd issue arise out of it--this horse had apparently poked a hole in some part of his air tract and the air was escaping back into his body cavity. Since it didn't have anywhere to go, it began to seep under the skin, and that's where it all went until the hole closed itself. Our vet called him the Hindenberg (and still does to this day), because he literally blew up like a balloon--you could pop his skin and it sounded like an air mattress. We had to put pantyhose on his head to keep his head from becoming so swollen that he couldn't see. So the only "normal" part of him was what was restricted with pantyhose. True story. I wish we had taken pictures, because it was by far the craziest thing we have ever had happen.
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Ouch!  I hope you post update pics for us- would love to see how that heals up!  I agree with everyone else on here, keep it clean and soft, and let mother nature take care of the rest for you!  My Frenchman's Guy colt ripped a 12" X 4"  chunk out of his shoulder last week, crazy how this always happens to the good ones!  Good luck and keep us posted!  

eta: I put a blanket on my colt- he was lucky to be caught early enough to be stitched, but I've seen ones that weren't stitched that also healed up very nicely.   I had a broodie that had a vicious fight with something a few years ago and her chest wound looked real similar to yours- we never stitched it, and now you can't even see a scar.  I didn't even do alot of doctoring in her, broodies can be such a pain to deal with, just kept the crud out of it and gave her the prescribed course of antibiotics.  


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I was hydroing this when the weather was warmer. Now that the weather is not allowing it I have been scrubbing with warm water and betadine. I dry it off and apply furasone. Best guess is he impelled himself on something. Never found any debris. I started off with oral antibiotics but he was a bear giving them to. Now we have switched to exceed every 4 days. I will continue to use exceed until the tunnel heals up. The very top right has a tunnel that is about as deep as my pointer finger.

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SoonerLawyer - 2013-12-10 3:10 PM We had a horse that looked like this from coming down on a t-post and impaling himself in the chest. The vet said there wasn't much we could do about it except try to keep it clean. However, we did have an odd issue arise out of it--this horse had apparently poked a hole in some part of his air tract and the air was escaping back into his body cavity. Since it didn't have anywhere to go, it began to seep under the skin, and that's where it all went until the hole closed itself. Our vet called him the Hindenberg (and still does to this day), because he literally blew up like a balloon--you could pop his skin and it sounded like an air mattress. We had to put pantyhose on his head to keep his head from becoming so swollen that he couldn't see. So the only "normal" part of him was what was restricted with pantyhose. True story. I wish we had taken pictures, because it was by far the craziest thing we have ever had happen.

This is true.  It sometimes can happen in people and is called "subcutaneous emphysema", where people feel like those air filled packing strips that give out little pops when you squeeze them.  It feels and looks worse than it is, and your body usually just absorbs the air. 
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HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 2:02 PM If it were me, I would wash at least 2-3 times a day with warm soap and water, using a soft brush.  That would be the biggest priority.  The Veterycin might help too, but warm soapy water would be the most important.  I like dial soap or something bacteriocidal.  Maybe the best approach would be to wash, then blot dry, and spray with Veterycin.  I don't think "covering" it would be very helpful, especially since you are keeping the stall clean.  He might fuss at first, but they get used to it.   You are basically debriding the wound, and that is the most important thing.  It looks great!

I am washing it a good 4-6 times a day with disinfectant and luke warm water per the vets advice. I just ordered underwoods so will use veterycin until it gets here (sorry just not a fan of the stuff).  The wound is staying very clean. I just went out again and he has finally had enough of being stalled. He's pawing and throwing a fit. He can hear the other horses outside.  He did manage to rip some stitches too, vet figured it would happen, but we were hopeful. It is just where she had stitched some of the muscle back together so not a big hole, but I'm sure it will keep it from healing as smooth.

Covering it was more to keep some warmth to the area. Even in the barn, where it is draining is leaving ice down his chest and legs. WY has had a cruel winter so far. Not much snow, but very cold temps.
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Well, whatever you are doing, you are doing a good job.  Keep up the good work!
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I had a mare do that in the exact same place and my vet had me spray with red (scarlet) oil daily and you would never know it had ever happened,
 
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Underwoods with baking soda. Will probably heal without a scar and all the hair will grow back. It is amazing stuff as far as I am concerned.
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I sure hope so. He has been pretty mad today and pulled a lot of the stitches out. It doesn't look near as good now :(  The vet figured he would as it is in such a bad place to rub and with his movement. He keeps pawing all day. I am going to try and keep an old gelding next to him and see if that helps. 
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If he's pawing, he might be painful? I worked at a vet hospital and we had one that bad or worse, just like that in the chest area. Kept it clean as possible, and we used BIOZIDE gel. Helped it heal and granulate in really fast. It's kinda sticky so you don't have to bandage it. Just put a glove on and stick it inside 2-3 times a day. (Our filly's was so deep I could put my whole hand in it) We put SWAT around the edge to keep the flies away. (if you have any)
Good luck, it should be fine.
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nuevocowgirl - 2013-12-10 5:17 PM If he's pawing, he might be painful? I worked at a vet hospital and we had one that bad or worse, just like that in the chest area. Kept it clean as possible, and we used BIOZIDE gel. Helped it heal and granulate in really fast. It's kinda sticky so you don't have to bandage it. Just put a glove on and stick it inside 2-3 times a day. (Our filly's was so deep I could put my whole hand in it) We put SWAT around the edge to keep the flies away. (if you have any) Good luck, it should be fine.

He's miffed he's stuck in the barn. This colt has had no personality until this. He just kind of hung around and never caused a scene or any mischief. THAT HAS ALL CHANGED!!!

He is acting more sore now that he tore it back up some. Nothing to rub it on so I am sure they pulled loose with his moving around and pawing.

No flies thank gosh. TOO COLD! 
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I am a big fan of Vetericyn, Caravet an water! I will try to attach pictures of my 3 year old that tried to take her back leg off.



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slmustang - 2013-12-10 2:59 PM I was hydroing this when the weather was warmer. Now that the weather is not allowing it I have been scrubbing with warm water and betadine. I dry it off and apply furasone. Best guess is he impelled himself on something. Never found any debris. I started off with oral antibiotics but he was a bear giving them to. Now we have switched to exceed every 4 days. I will continue to use exceed until the tunnel heals up. The very top right has a tunnel that is about as deep as my pointer finger.

Wow!!  Great job healing that up!  Was that part of the pelvic bone exposed in day 2 pic? 
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doublekfarms - 2013-12-10 5:55 PM I am a big fan of Vetericyn, Caravet an water! I will try to attach pictures of my 3 year old that tried to take her back leg off.

Love these pics and stories!  It's good to share all of these horror stories and their outcomes! 
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Underwoods all the way!!! Works wonders :)
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slmustang - 2013-12-10 2:59 PM I was hydroing this when the weather was warmer. Now that the weather is not allowing it I have been scrubbing with warm water and betadine. I dry it off and apply furasone. Best guess is he impelled himself on something. Never found any debris. I started off with oral antibiotics but he was a bear giving them to. Now we have switched to exceed every 4 days. I will continue to use exceed until the tunnel heals up. The very top right has a tunnel that is about as deep as my pointer finger.
Wow!!  Great job healing that up!  Was that part of the pelvic bone exposed in day 2 pic? 

No bone exposed, only muscle. We will probably never know what exactly happened. It looks that he impelled himself from bottom to top. If you can tell, he has a strip of skin and hair between the 2 holes. I stuck my hand in the bottom hole up to my wrist, but the vet said that the only reason it was that deep is that it was actually between the 2 muscles. I got lucky. This horse has never took a lame step even at the beginning. I was certain that I would be looking at 6 months of healing but at this point I am less than a month in. The drainage was horrible at first. I have had to keep his tail wrapped. and baby oil on his lower leg to prevent gaulding.
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slmustang - 2013-12-10 2:59 PM I was hydroing this when the weather was warmer. Now that the weather is not allowing it I have been scrubbing with warm water and betadine. I dry it off and apply furasone. Best guess is he impelled himself on something. Never found any debris. I started off with oral antibiotics but he was a bear giving them to. Now we have switched to exceed every 4 days. I will continue to use exceed until the tunnel heals up. The very top right has a tunnel that is about as deep as my pointer finger.
Wow!!  Great job healing that up!  Was that part of the pelvic bone exposed in day 2 pic? 
No bone exposed, only muscle. We will probably never know what exactly happened. It looks that he impelled himself from bottom to top. If you can tell, he has a strip of skin and hair between the 2 holes. I stuck my hand in the bottom hole up to my wrist, but the vet said that the only reason it was that deep is that it was actually between the 2 muscles. I got lucky. This horse has never took a lame step even at the beginning. I was certain that I would be looking at 6 months of healing but at this point I am less than a month in. The drainage was horrible at first. I have had to keep his tail wrapped. and baby oil on his lower leg to prevent gaulding.

Kudos to you and your good care- and to the rest of you who have shared on here too.  The photos and stories have been very inspiring!  I wish I had taken pics of some of my catastrophes as well, I'll have to start with that- :)
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