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Location: GA | I am playing around with the idea of sometime in the future standing some studs and having a breeding/horse sales/training operation. I would love for it to be self-sufficient, but that is obviously for many years down the road. Starting out, it would be small, one stallion, limited advertising, etc. What would you suggest, as stallion owners and breeders yourselves to get started in the business, be successful, and work to eventually make it self-sufficient? Any ideas, stories, etc are welcome! | |
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 Super Woman
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| First you must have plenty of room and a proper facility to stand a stallion. Stallions are not geldings they can not just run free in a pasture they need proper fencing. | |
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Fire Ant Peddler
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| Not only to you need to have room for a stallion, you need to have quality SAFE accommodations for mares and foals. You might check out Jud Little's mare motel. | |
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The Advice Guru
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| It is better to have a proven stallion in the arena before advertising. It is also better if you have the best "in bloodlines" a person can have. This will make your stud my sellable | |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | cheryl makofka - 2013-12-11 4:11 PM
It is better to have a proven stallion in the arena before advertising. It is also better if you have the best "in bloodlines" a person can have. This will make your stud my sellable
Ditto, plus it really helps when selling if your stud produces color. I know I know, color doesn't make them a better horse but it sure is easier to sell the reslting foals. | |
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Location: Nowhere Special | barn goddess - 2013-12-09 7:00 PM First you must have plenty of room and a proper facility to stand a stallion. Stallions are not geldings they can not just run free in a pasture they need proper fencing.
Please don't tell that to my two stallions that are out running free in the pasture behind the same kind of fence every other horse on the place is.. The stud running with the geldings might get some kind of idea hes not suppose to do that either.. :)
The best advice I can give you is get a ton of money saved up first. Advertising will cost you a fortune to do it right. Good help can also be hard to find and you need good experienced help!!
Get a thick skin, people can be cruel
As far as how to actually make money with horses I hope someone can tell us both! LOL | |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I agree with everything said so far. Color....eh....it helps, but if you have the bloodlines and a good looking product it sells. I'd much rather have a fast horse to sell than a colorful one any day.....not that that's how it was worded above....just my preference.
Can not stress the facility, the money and a safe environment enough. You have to be inspection ready at all times. People just drive up and want to see the studs and their foals. I am always impressed when I pull up to a place, unexpected and the stalls are clean, the place is clean and safe. It sets a mare owner's mind more at ease, because it is hard for a lot of people to leave their horse in someone else's care.
I don't stand Scorcho to the public right now, because it is a big deal. People are tough. I don't have time to fool with it all and work full time. You have to be on top of the game when you stand or you'll lose customer's and people will spread the word if they are dissatisfied.
What else? If you don't advertise, you won't reach the audience that you could be reaching. It's expensive. I'm, also, learning that people want the stallions enrolled in incentive programs. That is, also, costly.
Your stallion needs a clean 5 panel test. People are asking for it now.
Any horse coming onto your property needs to be immunized for strangles at least. I know a lot of people don't believe in immunization, but the last thing you want is someone's horse contracting strangles from another person's horse in your care. Saw that happen at a racing barn here in LA. The barn then went on to immunize all horses on their property without contacting owner's after they had been exposed. That didn't go over well and was costly and they gave the shot, not the nasal immunization....there were some abscesses.....just a big mess. I know they lost business because of that.
It takes a lot to make a stallion operation self sufficient or any horse operation for that matter lol.....good luck. | |
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The Advice Guru
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| LRQHS - 2013-12-12 7:16 AM
I agree with everything said so far. Color....eh....it helps, but if you have the bloodlines and a good looking product it sells. I'd much rather have a fast horse to sell than a colorful one any day.....not that that's how it was worded above....just my preference.
Can not stress the facility, the money and a safe environment enough. You have to be inspection ready at all times. People just drive up and want to see the studs and their foals. I am always impressed when I pull up to a place, unexpected and the stalls are clean, the place is clean and safe. It sets a mare owner's mind more at ease, because it is hard for a lot of people to leave their horse in someone else's care.
I don't stand Scorcho to the public right now, because it is a big deal. People are tough. I don't have time to fool with it all and work full time. You have to be on top of the game when you stand or you'll lose customer's and people will spread the word if they are dissatisfied.
What else? If you don't advertise, you won't reach the audience that you could be reaching. It's expensive. I'm, also, learning that people want the stallions enrolled in incentive programs. That is, also, costly.
Your stallion needs a clean 5 panel test. People are asking for it now.
Any horse coming onto your property needs to be immunized for strangles at least. I know a lot of people don't believe in immunization, but the last thing you want is someone's horse contracting strangles from another person's horse in your care. Saw that happen at a racing barn here in LA. The barn then went on to immunize all horses on their property without contacting owner's after they had been exposed. That didn't go over well and was costly and they gave the shot, not the nasal immunization....there were some abscesses.....just a big mess. I know they lost business because of that.
It takes a lot to make a stallion operation self sufficient or any horse operation for that matter lol.....good luck.
As a mare owner I do not agree with the strangles vaccine as horses die from the vaccine. Horses can develop pupura from the vaccine which can lead to multisystem organ failure. If a stallion owner required documentation of vaccine, I would go somewhere else.
Also if you want to keep costs contained, I would also suggest looking for ai equipment you might be able to find some used equipment at awesome prices. I would also suggest on yourself taking the ai course | |
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Location: Bandera, TX | LRQHS - 2013-12-12 7:16 AM I agree with everything said so far. Color....eh....it helps, but if you have the bloodlines and a good looking product it sells. I'd much rather have a fast horse to sell than a colorful one any day.....not that that's how it was worded above....just my preference.
Can not stress the facility, the money and a safe environment enough. You have to be inspection ready at all times. People just drive up and want to see the studs and their foals. I am always impressed when I pull up to a place, unexpected and the stalls are clean, the place is clean and safe. It sets a mare owner's mind more at ease, because it is hard for a lot of people to leave their horse in someone else's care.
I don't stand Scorcho to the public right now, because it is a big deal. People are tough. I don't have time to fool with it all and work full time. You have to be on top of the game when you stand or you'll lose customer's and people will spread the word if they are dissatisfied.
What else? If you don't advertise, you won't reach the audience that you could be reaching. It's expensive. I'm, also, learning that people want the stallions enrolled in incentive programs. That is, also, costly.
Your stallion needs a clean 5 panel test. People are asking for it now.
Any horse coming onto your property needs to be immunized for strangles at least. I know a lot of people don't believe in immunization, but the last thing you want is someone's horse contracting strangles from another person's horse in your care. Saw that happen at a racing barn here in LA. The barn then went on to immunize all horses on their property without contacting owner's after they had been exposed. That didn't go over well and was costly and they gave the shot, not the nasal immunization....there were some abscesses.....just a big mess. I know they lost business because of that.
It takes a lot to make a stallion operation self sufficient or any horse operation for that matter lol.....good luck.
Now if we can just get every mare taken to a stallion on board with this!
I'm only taking my mares to stallions that offer incentives from here on out.
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Location: ND | LRQHS - 2013-12-12 7:16 AM
I agree with everything said so far. Color....eh....it helps, but if you have the bloodlines and a good looking product it sells. I'd much rather have a fast horse to sell than a colorful one any day.....not that that's how it was worded above....just my preference.
Can not stress the facility, the money and a safe environment enough. You have to be inspection ready at all times. People just drive up and want to see the studs and their foals. I am always impressed when I pull up to a place, unexpected and the stalls are clean, the place is clean and safe. It sets a mare owner's mind more at ease, because it is hard for a lot of people to leave their horse in someone else's care.
I don't stand Scorcho to the public right now, because it is a big deal. People are tough. I don't have time to fool with it all and work full time. You have to be on top of the game when you stand or you'll lose customer's and people will spread the word if they are dissatisfied.
What else? If you don't advertise, you won't reach the audience that you could be reaching. It's expensive. I'm, also, learning that people want the stallions enrolled in incentive programs. That is, also, costly.
Your stallion needs a clean 5 panel test. People are asking for it now.
Any horse coming onto your property needs to be immunized for strangles at least. I know a lot of people don't believe in immunization, but the last thing you want is someone's horse contracting strangles from another person's horse in your care. Saw that happen at a racing barn here in LA. The barn then went on to immunize all horses on their property without contacting owner's after they had been exposed. That didn't go over well and was costly and they gave the shot, not the nasal immunization....there were some abscesses.....just a big mess. I know they lost business because of that.
It takes a lot to make a stallion operation self sufficient or any horse operation for that matter lol.....good luck.
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