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Location: Mountains of VA | O.k., so I'm in love with Stingray as far as her size, style, conformation, etc., not that I want to make an offer on her. BUT IF she were put on the market before the NFR started, what would be her price range?? Or any other horse of similiar credentials, conformation, running style, etc.??
Would really love to find a tobiano mare just like Stingray....... |
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Location: MD | A good, solid, been there multiple times and won everywhere sort of mare like that..... I've seen people turn down $500,000 for, more than once. |
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Location: Kansas | WrapSnap - 2013-12-09 7:20 PM A good, solid, been there multiple times and won everywhere sort of mare like that..... I've seen people turn down $500,000 for, more than once.
Agreed, a horse with such athletic ability and talent....not to mention heart like stingray, probably would range hundreds of thousands of dollars....if she were to ever sell LOL
We can all dream......or we can dream that sherry sells some embroys LOL!!!! |
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Location: Central TX | atleast 200,000
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Location: Mountains of VA | Thanks! Was really curious about the value of that caliber of horse. |
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Location: Central TX | well lucky you if you have the finances to do that! |
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Location: Oklahoma | I'm pretty sure if stingray ever went up for auction she'd be the highest selling barrel horse ever I'm sure someone would pay close to half a million for her, and probably a Brazilian. I believe miss fortune and fool stills holds the highest selling barrel horse record at 327,000 I believe. I'm not sure so don't quote me. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | hotpaints - 2013-12-09 7:34 PM
Thanks! Was really curious about the value of that caliber of horse.
The value may not be reflected in the cost... Some people form a bond with a horse that can take a TON of money to pry apart..  |
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Location: oklahoma | I don't think she'd sell her. I also think that most people have one or two a lifetime that'd never leave out of all the others. Pure speculation but I imagine her and her dad have a business partnership on horses, but what do I know?
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| I was at Potter's place 2 years ago and Mel said Stingray will be in the broodmare pasture when she's done competing. Cracked me up cause he said it in the most non-chalant sort of way, like she was "just another" horse. I highly doubt Stingray will ever have a new zip code. |
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| I think that the black dash for perks horse that broke the standard arena record in brazil sold for $425,000??? But I may be wrong, there was a news article about it awhile back. I also heard Mary Walker was offered 1 mill for Latte and turned it down.. from a guy that will spend any kind of money on horses. I don't know if either of those are true.......... but that's what I heard! I'm sure the Brazlillians would give $500,000 or more for stingray or a horse as well known as her... no one in America would be outbidding them, whatever she went for |
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Location: Ky | I know what the Brazilles, {sp}, paid for a barrel horse this past summer and it's way up there. I don't know if it's the horse she has at the NFR though.
Probably not at liberty to say but it's in the ballpark of what's been mentioned here. |
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Location: La Vernia, TX | Stingray embryos are out there! I know of at least one that was sold. |
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Location: OK | Wonder if there's a datearichbrazilianhorseowner.com dating site?? If they'll throw that kind of money around on horses...... THERE's the sugar daddy everyone's been talking about!!
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| cowdoc101 - 2013-12-09 10:32 PM
Wonder if there's a datearichbrazilianhorseowner.com dating site?? If they'll throw that kind of money around on horses...... THERE's the sugar daddy everyone's been talking about!!
This would be WAY better than Farmers Only! |
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| What would the cost of a NFR calibar such as Bo (before he won two rounds) Cowboy, or Sabrina Ketchm's horse be? A horse that made it to the NFR but doesn't quite have a name yet? |
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| Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember. |
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| Nateracer - 2013-12-10 8:47 AM Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember.
I have absolutely no idea if it is true, but the story I heard on more than one occasion isthat HotShot's asking price was $150,000 but that due to some stuff found on pre-purchase exam the final selling price ended up being $80.000. And every bit of what I just wrote could be 100% non-true gossip!!!! |
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Location: MD | Nateracer - 2013-12-10 7:47 AM
Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember.
The quoted price on HotShot was indeed $80k. They did however buy him before his NFR appearance with Janet. The deal had already been made that Janet was running him and part of the deal was that they had to honor that. |
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Location: Colorado | One thing you have to keep in mind when asking about horse like Stingray or Martha vs a Louie or Duke is reproductive value.
I heard a RUMOR that a Martha embryo went to Brazile for 6 figures.
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Location: relocated to Texas | runs4fun - 2013-12-11 6:55 AM Nateracer - 2013-12-10 8:47 AM Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember. I have absolutely no idea if it is true, but the story I heard on more than one occasion isthat HotShot's asking price was $150,000 but that due to some stuff found on pre-purchase exam the final selling price ended up being $80.000. And every bit of what I just wrote could be 100% non-true gossip!!!!
It is. People love to gossip about horse deals, Peyton made the deal with Steinhoffs on Hotshot prior to the NFR. Janet did so well on him that Peyton could have asked more after the NFR, but she stuck to her deal and the rest is history. For a horse with supposed soundness issues, he sure ran well for many years, LOL |
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| If I had a horse of Stingray's caliber and didn't need the money, she wouldn't be for sale at any price. But if I did sell her for some reason, I would tell them they'd have to write me a blank check and that they'd better have a million or two in the account |
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Location: Mountains of VA | graciemay - 2013-12-10 8:42 AM One thing you have to keep in mind when asking about horse like Stingray or Martha vs a Louie or Duke is reproductive value.
I heard a RUMOR that a Martha embryo went to Brazile for 6 figures.
Yes, I agree a mare should have a higher value. HOWEVER, you can clone the geldings, get a colt and stand the colt at stud. So, according to others that have cloned geldings, the gelding should be just as valuable.
Not trying to start another round of pro and con on cloning but this seems to be the new option for these phenom geldings. Personally, I would never breed to a stud clone because the gelding he was cloned from may or may not have been a phenom if it was left as a stud. Not to mention the gelding may or may not have a great set of papers. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | hotpaints - 2013-12-10 12:20 PM graciemay - 2013-12-10 8:42 AM One thing you have to keep in mind when asking about horse like Stingray or Martha vs a Louie or Duke is reproductive value.
I heard a RUMOR that a Martha embryo went to Brazile for 6 figures. Yes, I agree a mare should have a higher value. HOWEVER, you can clone the geldings, get a colt and stand the colt at stud. So, according to others that have cloned geldings, the gelding should be just as valuable.
Not trying to start another round of pro and con on cloning but this seems to be the new option for these phenom geldings. Personally, I would never breed to a stud clone because the gelding he was cloned from may or may not have been a phenom if it was left as a stud. Not to mention the gelding may or may not have a great set of papers.
I don't think anyone is sure what will happen with the reproductive value of a clone. I do know they won't get any of my money.
As far as the value of an animal like Stingray, I had a mare worth way less than she is and she was not for sale for any price. I have a feeling Sherry doesn't need the money. So I would say priceless. Afterall her (Stingray's) nickname is "Precious". lol  |
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honestly...a horse is worth what someone is willing to pay. Some people out there have some pretty deep pockets! However to their owners... those horses may be priceless... not for sale no matter the price. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Shoot, I'm just seeing this........................The cost of a potential NFR calibur horse is only $3500 from now until January 1st...........that's right folks!!!! Come on over to LRQH'S Christmas blow out sale where potential NFR calibur horse's are just waiting for you........AND....... this weekend only........if you buy one potential NFR calibur horse you will get the second one half off!!! Sounds too good to be true..........well take a ride on down to LRQH'S and see for your self.........we've got red ones, brown ones, bay ones, gray ones........heck we've even got a long earred one...........
offers good while supplies last..........then you are SOL....... |
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Location: Midwest | do you have any wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men to go with your special offer? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:30 PM
Shoot, I'm just seeing this........................The cost of a potential NFR calibur horse is only $3500 from now until January 1st...........that's right folks!!!! Come on over to LRQH'S Christmas blow out sale where potential NFR calibur horse's are just waiting for you........AND....... this weekend only........if you buy one potential NFR calibur horse you will get the second one half off!!! Sounds too good to be true..........well take a ride on down to LRQH'S and see for your self.........we've got red ones, brown ones, bay ones, gray ones........heck we've even got a long earred one...........
offers good while supplies last..........then you are SOL.......
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2013-12-10 2:35 PM do you have any wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men to go with your special offer?
I do happen to own an inflatable unicorn horn now and it can be included as a special thank you gift....... |
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Location: Midwest | LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:38 PM barrelracr131 - 2013-12-10 2:35 PM do you have any wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men to go with your special offer? I do happen to own an inflatable unicorn horn now and it can be included as a special thank you gift.......
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2013-12-10 2:39 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:38 PM barrelracr131 - 2013-12-10 2:35 PM do you have any wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men to go with your special offer? I do happen to own an inflatable unicorn horn now and it can be included as a special thank you gift.......
uMMMMM....yeah, I can get you a giant pickle man if that's what it takes to get you to come on down to LRQH's NFR Potential Giant Christmas SALE!!! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2013-12-10 2:43 PM Or is it this
also sorry for hijjacking this thread
Yes....it's this.....the inflatable Unicorn Horn.........it's worth the drive on down to LRQH'S just for the Unicorn Horn...... |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:30 PM Shoot, I'm just seeing this........................The cost of a potential NFR calibur horse is only $3500 from now until January 1st...........that's right folks!!!! Come on over to LRQH'S Christmas blow out sale where potential NFR calibur horse's are just waiting for you........AND....... this weekend only........if you buy one potential NFR calibur horse you will get the second one half off!!! Sounds too good to be true..........well take a ride on down to LRQH'S and see for your self.........we've got red ones, brown ones, bay ones, gray ones........heck we've even got a long earred one...........
offers good while supplies last..........then you are SOL.......
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Location: Colorado | LRQHS - 2013-12-10 1:53 PM ....on a side note......I forgot to tell y'all that next Halloween I am going to be a Unicorn........now that I have the horn and all.......
You act like the horn(s) is a new development. (This is a test of your sense of humor. This is only a test). |
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har har har.......I got an EXTRA horn from my Secret Santa.....so, technically, I have 3 horns now...... |
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Location: Colorado | LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:17 PM har har har.......I got an EXTRA horn from my Secret Santa.....so, technically, I have 3 horns now......
You passed the NFR sense of humor test. Please proceed to any thread in need of humor. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | graciemay - 2013-12-10 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:17 PM har har har.......I got an EXTRA horn from my Secret Santa.....so, technically, I have 3 horns now......
YIPPPEEEEE!!!! I finally passed a test woohooooo!!! If only my Chemistry teacher could see me now!!!!! |
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Location: Colorado | LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:27 PM graciemay - 2013-12-10 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-10 2:17 PM har har har.......I got an EXTRA horn from my Secret Santa.....so, technically, I have 3 horns now......
It's a rare quality around here lately, |
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| Nateracer - 2013-12-10 8:47 AM Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember.
IMO those are some cheap prices for NFR quality horses. That is just my honest opinion though!!! |
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| magic gunsmoke - 2013-12-10 7:08 PM Nateracer - 2013-12-10 8:47 AM Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember. IMO those are some cheap prices for NFR quality horses. That is just my honest opinion though!!!
Considering Bozo cost like $850 total, I think it's ok. Not all of the horses running there were bought to be NFR horses, just rodeo horses in general. You can pick up a nice rodeo horse for even less than I mentioned. Just look at the ads! But Sometimes the right person clicks with a horse and history is made. |
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| Just to clarify my opinion:
If the horse that holds the arena record in Brazil went for over $400,000….
Think about what the NFR horses make each year, then think about their worth as either a breeding stallion, or a mare down the road.
As far as a gelding I know you cannot breed them, but again think about the money those horses have won year in and year out.
As far as horses pre NFR….of course you can buy some cheap cheap horses out there. I was assuming that it was horses that were on the way to qualifying for the NFR, or were just out of qualifying.
Maybe it is because I have been around some high priced horses that have sold for a lot of money that are not even rodeoed on that I feel this way. No one has to agree with me-in my opinion I just think those are some low prices when a lot of things are factored into it.
I would love to know what Duke’s LTE are. You know that those horses would be worth AT LEAST that.
Again-at the end of the day these are just opinions. I don't really care if someone doesn't like mine. |
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Location: No place like home | I think they would look at you and say what do u have to spend. And it better be BIG!!  |
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Location: Texas! | So how much do ya'll think Taylor will be offered for Bo after this NFR?
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| magic gunsmoke - 2013-12-10 7:08 PM Nateracer - 2013-12-10 8:47 AM Horses before the NFR - 75-100,000 I'd say.
Horses after the NFR - 150-250,000 or more depeding on rounds won etc.
Or in Stingray's case - PRICELESS
What did Hot Shot sell to Steinhoff's for after he went to the NFR?? Or did they buy him before that....I can't remember. IMO those are some cheap prices for NFR quality horses. That is just my honest opinion though!!!
THe prices have soared since Hotshot sold years ago. |
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| A lot depends on whose barn the horse is in when it is for sale someone who,has a really nice horse and in a place not know for,high power rodeo horses let alone 1-d type horses like good regional horses the person selling will not for themmost part get moneymfor them compaired someone who,hauls regular to big shows, rodeo. I had a really nice mare,that i showed locally and at the 1-d shows i had just ran a very nice run at a large nbha show had a person follow me back to the stall offer me good money, i turned it down, same year another big nbha show, a very well known trainer told me if i ever wanted to sell he would be interested, this person had ridden my mares, dam in furtities. But them several years later she messed up stifle, but she will always have a place in my barn, i bred her and have a weanie by her and have a carbon copy. |
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| One of the horses Jane Melby is running at the NFR this year is for sale for $450,000+ (Not Blackie) so just trade her a house ;) |
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