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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I cringed when I saw that bull come down on the back of his head. Just because he was moving all 4 extremities doesn't mean he's out of the woods. Has anyone heard the latest? |
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Location: In a happy place | bump |
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| I saw on FB this morning that he was up and moving around. Pretty reliable source. |
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| That was scary, wish the bull riders would wear helmets. Shout out to the bull fighters, great job getting the bull away from him.
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I assume his NFR is done...at least I hope so. |
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Location: Kansas | I didn't see it, but praying he is ok |
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 More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | It wouldn't surprise me if he's back on. Maybe not tonight but I bet he'll be back. |
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| It made me cringe too. So scary, prayers for him! |
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Location: WYOMING | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 9:18 AM I assume his NFR is done...at least I hope so.
LOL a little 2000 lbs to the back of the head wont stop him. I expect to see him back. |
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Location: Rodeos or Baseball games | Too cool for helmets?  A year ago everyone was wearing them now hardly anyone, I don't know what these guys are thinking!!  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | geronabean - 2013-12-10 9:48 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 9:18 AM I assume his NFR is done...at least I hope so. LOL a little 2000 lbs to the back of the head wont stop him. I expect to see him back.
It's his right to be stupid. |
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| Im surprised it's not been made mandatory for them to be wearing helmets! To each their own, and I wish all the luck and hope that God keeps them safe the remaining rounds! |
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 11:09 AM geronabean - 2013-12-10 9:48 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 9:18 AM I assume his NFR is done...at least I hope so. LOL a little 2000 lbs to the back of the head wont stop him. I expect to see him back.
 not up to me to judge, Ive not been given that authority. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Those clowns were spot on... I'm really proud of how fast they removed that bull from the arena. I didn't see the bull hit until slow replay and someone yell he's out cold. Wish he would wear a helmet he is so accident prone. I don't think he'll ride tonight but I bet he will tomorrow. I know how that rung his bell. |
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Location: Kentucky | If he rides again, I hope he puts a dang helmet on. |
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | Ive sat on one of those bulls IN THE CHUTE and that alone is terrifying!!! I can NOT imagine tying myself to one and turning it loose... but those boys are tough and thats "what they do".
Had a good friend that was a bull fighter when we were rodeoing.. he was a different breed all together. Very superstitious about how he prepared for the job. That there could be a reality show alone!!! |
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Location: Kentucky | geronabean - 2013-12-10 11:35 AM Ive sat on one of those bulls IN THE CHUTE and that alone is terrifying!!! I can NOT imagine tying myself to one and turning it loose... but those boys are tough and thats "what they do".
Had a good friend that was a bull fighter when we were rodeoing.. he was a different breed all together. Very superstitious about how he prepared for the job. That there could be a reality show alone!!!
PETA would be all over that. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | It says on the wilderness circuit Facebook page he is planning on riding tonight. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It sure looked to me like he lost consciousness. If he did, then I wouldn't let him ride for at least a week, regardless of MRI or CT findings. That's just me, though, and I am sure Dr Tandy is way more experienced than I am. In the NFL, he would be sidelined for a minimum of a week, I believe. |
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More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 11:02 AM It sure looked to me like he lost consciousness. If he did, then I wouldn't let him ride for at least a week, regardless of MRI or CT findings. That's just me, though, and I am sure Dr Tandy is way more experienced than I am. In the NFL, he would be sidelined for a minimum of a week, I believe.
Health wise yes he should probably be out but, the cowboys have no coaches or contracts. This is the biggest rodeo of the year for them and a way to finally get them in the black after hauling all year. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-10 10:04 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 11:02 AM It sure looked to me like he lost consciousness. If he did, then I wouldn't let him ride for at least a week, regardless of MRI or CT findings. That's just me, though, and I am sure Dr Tandy is way more experienced than I am. In the NFL, he would be sidelined for a minimum of a week, I believe. Health wise yes he should probably be out but, the cowboys have no coaches or contracts. This is the biggest rodeo of the year for them and a way to finally get them in the black after hauling all year.
Do they have to get medical clearance to continue or is the decision theirs to make?
As a mother I would have a very difficult time watching my son ride after an injury like that. I would probably hog tie him & lock him in the closet of his hotel room and take the butt chewing later. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | lookout hill - 2013-12-10 11:07 AM CYA Ranch - 2013-12-10 10:04 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 11:02 AM It sure looked to me like he lost consciousness. If he did, then I wouldn't let him ride for at least a week, regardless of MRI or CT findings. That's just me, though, and I am sure Dr Tandy is way more experienced than I am. In the NFL, he would be sidelined for a minimum of a week, I believe. Health wise yes he should probably be out but, the cowboys have no coaches or contracts. This is the biggest rodeo of the year for them and a way to finally get them in the black after hauling all year.
As a mother I would have a very difficult time watching my son ride after an injury like that. I would probably hog tie him & lock him in the closet of his hotel room and take the butt chewing later.
Someone will know more than I do but no I don't think they have to get medical clearance since they are their own "boss" as you might say. |
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Water Weight Barbie
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Location: Oz, Kansas | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-10 10:09 AM lookout hill - 2013-12-10 11:07 AM CYA Ranch - 2013-12-10 10:04 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 11:02 AM It sure looked to me like he lost consciousness. If he did, then I wouldn't let him ride for at least a week, regardless of MRI or CT findings. That's just me, though, and I am sure Dr Tandy is way more experienced than I am. In the NFL, he would be sidelined for a minimum of a week, I believe. Health wise yes he should probably be out but, the cowboys have no coaches or contracts. This is the biggest rodeo of the year for them and a way to finally get them in the black after hauling all year.
As a mother I would have a very difficult time watching my son ride after an injury like that. I would probably hog tie him & lock him in the closet of his hotel room and take the butt chewing later.
I feel sorry for that steer wrestler too. He shredded his knee & was told he couldn't damage it anymore than he already has so he's going to finish out the week & then repair it after.
I know it's the super bowl of rodeo but I'd prefer my child remember my name when he's in his 40's & be able to walk without pain. |
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Location: Texas | This goes back to one of my favorite sayings "when you are dumb you better be tough". I totally get that it is a dangerous sport and injuries are inevitable but unless you are going to lose the world by missing one ride I would sit at least one round out. But to each their own as they have to pay the ultimate price for their decisions. I do not mean to be ugly and it is not my place to judge his actions. I am just glad he is ok. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm sure he will have to sign a waiver of liability. That way if he wants to ride and he ends up in a nursing home neither he nor his family can hold the PRCA liable. We know a lot more about traumatic brain injury now than we did even 20 years ago, when we operated under the assumption that if you are feeling fine 24 hours following a concussion, you are out of the woods. Of course, we have to figure out a way to pay for his nursing home expenses until he dies.
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm sure he will have to sign a waiver of liability. That way if he wants to ride and he ends up in a nursing home neither he nor his family can hold the PRCA liable. We know a lot more about traumatic brain injury now than we did even 20 years ago, when we operated under the assumption that if you are feeling fine 24 hours following a concussion, you are out of the woods. Of course, we have to figure out a way to pay for his nursing home expenses until he dies.
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Location: A Higher Elevation | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 9:26 AM
I'm sure he will have to sign a waiver of liability. That way if he wants to ride and he ends up in a nursing home neither he nor his family can be held liable. We know a lot more about traumatic brain injury now than we did even 20 years ago, when we operated under the assumption that if you are feeling fine 24 hours following a concussion, you are out of the woods. Of course, we have to figure out a way to pay for his nursing home expenses until he dies.
Every PRCA member signs that waiver when they join each year.... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Spring Fling - 2013-12-10 11:27 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 9:26 AM I'm sure he will have to sign a waiver of liability. That way if he wants to ride and he ends up in a nursing home neither he nor his family can be held liable. We know a lot more about traumatic brain injury now than we did even 20 years ago, when we operated under the assumption that if you are feeling fine 24 hours following a concussion, you are out of the woods. Of course, we have to figure out a way to pay for his nursing home expenses until he dies. Every PRCA member signs that waiver when they join each year....
I would make him sign another one that is specific for this injury. Those waivers aren't bulletproof. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 10:26 AM I'm sure he will have to sign a waiver of liability. That way if he wants to ride and he ends up in a nursing home neither he nor his family can hold the PRCA liable. We know a lot more about traumatic brain injury now than we did even 20 years ago, when we operated under the assumption that if you are feeling fine 24 hours following a concussion, you are out of the woods. Of course, we have to figure out a way to pay for his nursing home expenses until he dies.
There was a senior that went to a neighboring school that suffered a concussion playing football, sat out a few games & then begged his parents & coaches to play the last game. They took him to their family Dr & he passed the test he put him through so he was cleared to play. He played his last game in life that night & some poor kid is suffering from depression thinking that his tackle was what killed him not the hidden effects of the concussion from a few weeks earlier. Come to find out he lied to his parents, coach & Dr. about his recurring headaches, dizziness & blurred vision. They found several bottles of ibuprofen in his car & locker.
Not worth it as far as I'm concerned. |
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Location: Colorado | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 11:32 AM Spring Fling - 2013-12-10 11:27 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 9:26 AM I'm sure he will have to sign a waiver of liability. That way if he wants to ride and he ends up in a nursing home neither he nor his family can be held liable. We know a lot more about traumatic brain injury now than we did even 20 years ago, when we operated under the assumption that if you are feeling fine 24 hours following a concussion, you are out of the woods. Of course, we have to figure out a way to pay for his nursing home expenses until he dies. Every PRCA member signs that waiver when they join each year....
Dr. Tandy knows his stuff. He will/or has discussed the Good , Bad , and Ugly with Steve. Or anyone else who is hurt.
Dr. Tandy has built a network of the best trauma and sports Docs in the country. The computer system they use to track injuries has been ten years ahead of the game for a long time. The Healer program has come along way in 20+ years thanks to Dr. Tandy.
But, you can always contact Dr. T and the Commish and discuss your concerns.
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Location: Kentucky | Posted on FB two hours ago:
On behalf of Steve Woolsey's family, thanks for all of the prayers and concern. He is doing good this morning. Got to love the rodeo family! |
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| It is his choice to ride or not tonight. Not Dr. Freeman's. Doc can advise him (and will/has) but it his choice. No, he will not have to sign an additional waiver. That is done with your membership agreement each year. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | barrelracinbroke - 2013-12-10 12:14 PM It is his choice to ride or not tonight. Not Dr. Freeman's. Doc can advise him (and will/has) but it his choice. No, he will not have to sign an additional waiver. That is done with your membership agreement each year.
I'm sure you are right about that. I do know that if he lost consciousness, his risk is definitely higher, and I'm sure Steve Wolsey has been advised. He may not have to sign a waiver, but I'm almost positive the conversation and advice will be well documented. That's all a person can do. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Just saw posts from his Cousin and Aunt.
Post from his Cousin: "Just talkt to Steve, he says he feels good and it'll take more than that! Plans to ride tonight! he appreciates all the text/calls from everyone!"
Post from his Aunt: "Steve is doing OK this morning, a few raspberries on his ear. Sees DR at 10 but plans to ride tonight." |
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What's the latest on Steve Woolsey?