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PRCA Announces CBS Sports Network as New Home of the Wrangler NFR [PHOTO] PRCA commissioner Karl Stressman at the annual Wrangler NFR press conference. LAS VEGAS — The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) announced today its 2014 and 2015 television plan, featuring CBS Sports Network (CBSSN) as the new home of the Wrangler National Finals Rodeo. CBS Sports Network, which is available in nearly 60 million households nationwide, will also become the home of the PRCA’s Wrangler Champions Challenge presented by Justin Boots series, and the PRCA’s championship rodeos in Puyallup, Wash., and Omaha, Neb.
“We believe CBS Sports Network is a great fit for the PRCA, because it takes us to a mainstream sports network audience,” PRCA Commissioner Karl Stressman said. “It’s exciting for one of the fastest-growing sports in the world to partner with the fastest growing sports network in the country. The commitment of CBS Sports Network to ProRodeo will be a win-win for both partners.”
In addition to featuring LIVE coverage of all 10 rounds of the 2014 and 2015 Wrangler NFR, CBS Sports Network will also broadcast the recently-created Wrangler Champions Challenge presented by Justin Boots. “This new tour highlights our marquee contestants against the very best stock who will be featured on a consistent basis. Our fans will have a chance to see their favorite athletes in a Wrangler NFR-style format,” said Stressman.
As part of the multi-year agreement, CBS Sports Network will also televise the Justin Boots Playoffs from Puyallup, Washington and the Justin Boots Championships from Omaha, Nebraska. These championship broadcasts, as well as the Wrangler Champions Challenge presented by Justin Boots will run 90 minutes and each repeat once. |
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Location: ND | PRCA is trying to stay relevant in the rodeo world at the expense of the viewers.....i don't think CBS sports network is going to have as good of coverage of NFR as GAC |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | I wonder if it will be on "normal tv" for us with no cable or satellite?? I get CBS, and it shows up as the CBS Sports for big golf tournaments and stuff... I guess ill find out. I'll be happy even if its just the last night they show..
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances..... |
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Location: NC | BlazeFlameHarley - 2013-12-10 10:49 PM
I wonder if it will be on "normal tv" for us with no cable or satellite?? I get CBS, and it shows up as the CBS Sports for big golf tournaments and stuff... I guess ill find out. I'll be happy even if its just the last night they show..
CBS Sports is an actual channel. For me it is anyways. We have it as part of the sports package. It gets used a lot in March. |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM
Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances.....
That's another thing I was wondering. I know ESPN didn't show them. |
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Location: NC | Why can't they just webcast it? It can be pay per view, that's fine, but that way I know how wins WHEN it happens, not two hours later. AND NO COMMERCIALS! You wouldn't miss a thing. |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | hlynn - 2013-12-10 9:51 PM
BlazeFlameHarley - 2013-12-10 10:49 PM
I wonder if it will be on "normal tv" for us with no cable or satellite?? I get CBS, and it shows up as the CBS Sports for big golf tournaments and stuff... I guess ill find out. I'll be happy even if its just the last night they show..
CBS Sports is an actual channel. For me it is anyways. We have it as part of the sports package. It gets used a lot in March.
I guess it will probably end up depending on if they think it will get enough viewers. The CBS channel I get shows "CBS Sports" when they show the bigger events(ball games, golf, ect). Im not sure if they would consider rodeo a big enough deal. Ithink its CBS that shows the PBR finals and a couple bigger bull ridings too though?
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Location: SE Louisiana | I'm sure you will discover the PRCA went with CBS because they bid higher than anybody else. But like someone else said, just because they paid for the rights does NOT mean they will show it. |
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Location: Texas | BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 9:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ...
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Location: two stop lights,NC | I think this is great especially for me since I don't have cable or satellite lol but some of you may be right you may not get the full coverage but I bet with the probably do is put it on like a CBS Sports Network which is still not on like a digital Antenna TV you would still have to have cable or satellite to watch it but hopefully notthis is like Monday Night Football I wish they would bring it back to regular TV just my opinion ladies ya have a good one |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | RocketPilot - 2013-12-10 9:22 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 9:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ...
I am from Dallas. Heaven help us.
It will never happen! I heard and interview with the PRCA commissioner and he said they are NOT looking at moving it from Vegas. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | I wish it would stay on GAC, they have done a great job, and I like the NFR preview show right before the rodeo. |
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| hlynn - 2013-12-10 9:54 PM
Why can't they just webcast it? It can be pay per view, that's fine, but that way I know how wins WHEN it happens, not two hours later. AND NO COMMERCIALS! You wouldn't miss a thing.
By we casting it, they can ensure a stagnant viewership. They want to draw more viewers (and fans) in by being on a more mainstream channel. Which I thinkis smart in thinking of the future of our sport. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I'm worried its not going to be a good thing for the sport of rodeo. Its not going to be on regular CBS but on a CBS Sports channel. I haven't taken the time to see if I get that channel or not. |
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-10 9:44 PM
PRCA is trying to stay relevant in the rodeo world at the expense of the viewers.....i don't think CBS sports network is going to have as good of coverage of NFR as GAC
I totally agree. They used to only show a few barrel racers and it used to make me so mad. I think GAC is doing an awesome job. |
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Location: mi | If they want to increasing viewing they really need to figure out a way for it not to be in the middle of the night for those of us on the east side. I can not stay up til 1am and be up at 5am for work. I know it's live and in vegas but could they not at least move up the start time on the saturday and sunday rounds? And I totally relied on GAC re airing it the following evening so I could watch it during dinner. Now even though I have Directv I have to watch it via youtube. To me they just are never going to have the top viewing they could have with it being so late at night. |
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| mdg - 2013-12-10 10:27 PM I think this is great especially for me since I don't have cable or satellite lol but some of you may be right you may not get the full coverage but I bet with the probably do is put it on like a CBS Sports Network which is still not on like a digital Antenna TV you would still have to have cable or satellite to watch it but hopefully notthis is like Monday Night Football I wish they would bring it back to regular TV just my opinion ladies ya have a good one If you don't have cable or satellite, then you won't be able to see the rodeo. This is not the regular CBS program. This is part of a cable/satellite package. Like someone else said there will be competition with other sports on the channel. I am pretty sure this is the same channel that airs PBR. They do ok. I hope they don't lose the quality of coverage that GAC has.....I am afraid they will.
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| ajs2002 - 2013-12-11 6:38 AM If they want to increasing viewing they really need to figure out a way for it not to be in the middle of the night for those of us on the east side. I can not stay up til 1am and be up at 5am for work. I know it's live and in vegas but could they not at least move up the start time on the saturday and sunday rounds? And I totally relied on GAC re airing it the following evening so I could watch it during dinner. Now even though I have Directv I have to watch it via youtube. To me they just are never going to have the top viewing they could have with it being so late at night.
We DVR it, too late for me too and it starts at 9:00 where I am. I have yet to stay awake for the whole thing. I make till the barrel results are posted on prorodeo.com thne I am out. |
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| ajs2002 - 2013-12-11 6:38 AM
If they want to increasing viewing they really need to figure out a way for it not to be in the middle of the night for those of us on the east side. I can not stay up til 1am and be up at 5am for work. I know it's live and in vegas but could they not at least move up the start time on the saturday and sunday rounds? And I totally relied on GAC re airing it the following evening so I could watch it during dinner. Now even though I have Directv I have to watch it via youtube. To me they just are never going to have the top viewing they could have with it being so late at night.
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| CYA Ranch - 2013-12-10 9:13 PM http://prorodeo.com/Story.aspx?xu=5802PRCA Announces CBS Sports Network as New Home of the Wrangler NFR [PHOTO] PRCA commissioner Karl Stressman at the annual Wrangler NFR press conference. LAS VEGAS — The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) announced today its 2014 and 2015 television plan, featuring CBS Sports Network (CBSSN) as the new home of the Wrangler National Finals Rodeo. CBS Sports Network, which is available in nearly 60 million households nationwide, will also become the home of the PRCA’s Wrangler Champions Challenge presented by Justin Boots series, and the PRCA’s championship rodeos in Puyallup, Wash., and Omaha, Neb.
“We believe CBS Sports Network is a great fit for the PRCA, because it takes us to a mainstream sports network audience,” PRCA Commissioner Karl Stressman said. “It’s exciting for one of the fastest-growing sports in the world to partner with the fastest growing sports network in the country. The commitment of CBS Sports Network to ProRodeo will be a win-win for both partners.”
In addition to featuring LIVE coverage of all 10 rounds of the 2014 and 2015 Wrangler NFR, CBS Sports Network will also broadcast the recently-created Wrangler Champions Challenge presented by Justin Boots. “This new tour highlights our marquee contestants against the very best stock who will be featured on a consistent basis. Our fans will have a chance to see their favorite athletes in a Wrangler NFR-style format,” said Stressman.
As part of the multi-year agreement, CBS Sports Network will also televise the Justin Boots Playoffs from Puyallup, Washington and the Justin Boots Championships from Omaha, Nebraska. These championship broadcasts, as well as the Wrangler Champions Challenge presented by Justin Boots will run 90 minutes and each repeat once.
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I sincerly like the job GAC is doing. I also LIKE the opporunity to watch the last nights round, the next day. I can't stay up until 1 a.m. everynight to watch all of it. Disappointing that they are moving it. |
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Location: Texas | NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances.....
If it's live, I don't know how they can cut any of the events short? When it was on ESPN, it wasn't live so they had a chance to condense it. Wonder what channel that is with DISH? I say that but it's not like I've had a chance to watch the entire rodeo since I've got kids and a job but they're all sitting and waiting on my DVR...  |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | bocephus's mama - 2013-12-11 7:46 AM NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances..... If it's live, I don't know how they can cut any of the events short? When it was on ESPN, it wasn't live so they had a chance to condense it. Wonder what channel that is with DISH? I say that but it's not like I've had a chance to watch the entire rodeo since I've got kids and a job but they're all sitting and waiting on my DVR...
I just looked and I have a channel on DISH #158 CBSSN I think that's it? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | bocephus's mama - 2013-12-11 7:46 AM NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances..... If it's live, I don't know how they can cut any of the events short? When it was on ESPN, it wasn't live so they had a chance to condense it. Wonder what channel that is with DISH? I say that but it's not like I've had a chance to watch the entire rodeo since I've got kids and a job but they're all sitting and waiting on my DVR...
They "say" that they are showing it "live" now....and they are NOT....it is "semi" live...on CBS, I predict that you will (just like it was on ESPN) MISS the contestants that run during the commercials, which, of course, are during the timed events.....GAC is on a short "time delay"..... |
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Location: Deep South | NJJ - 2013-12-11 8:17 AM
bocephus's mama - 2013-12-11 7:46 AM NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances..... If it's live, I don't know how they can cut any of the events short? When it was on ESPN, it wasn't live so they had a chance to condense it. Wonder what channel that is with DISH? I say that but it's not like I've had a chance to watch the entire rodeo since I've got kids and a job but they're all sitting and waiting on my DVR...
Agreed. Those companies pay BIG money to have those commercials aired, and the networks will squeeze them in even if it's over the top of the barrel racers.
I will be sad to see it leave GAC. They have done a spectacular job.
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Location: Kansas | NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances.....
Does anybody remember years ago when they filled the barrel racing time with interviews and commercials. If you saw two barrel racers you were lucky. Sometimes when they did the interviews with the cowboys you could hear the barrel race going on in the background but didn't get to see it. Maddening when you had fought off sleep for hours so you could watch the barrel racing.
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Location: ND | HorseMommyFiveO - 2013-12-10 11:02 PM hlynn - 2013-12-10 9:54 PM Why can't they just webcast it? It can be pay per view, that's fine, but that way I know how wins WHEN it happens, not two hours later. AND NO COMMERCIALS! You wouldn't miss a thing. By we casting it, they can ensure a stagnant viewership. They want to draw more viewers (and fans ) in by being on a more mainstream channel. Which I thinkis smart in thinking of the future of our sport.
CBS Sports Network is not a mainstream channel and they are struggling against all the sports network competition |
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Location: ND | Viewership on CBSSN for 90 minute rodeo broadcasts aren't going to increase viewership and popularity of rodeo. This is going to be a complete lose situation for all rodeo fans that want to watch the NFR all to benefit those at the top of the PRCA. It's too bad. The GAC deal was great for rodeo exposure to those that will actually be interested in rodeo. |
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Location: Madill Ok | Gac has done such a good job producing the NFR. My hats off to them.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | NJJ - 2013-12-09 10:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances.....
My thoughts as well.................GAC has done a great job!!! |
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Coverage of the NFR was never good until GAC got a hold of it.
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Location: between here and there | Seems they finally get good coverage and now this?? I don't see it as a positive either. Makes me rather sick actually. Back to loosing complete coverage. |
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Location: Colorado | I love the coeverage of GAC. The buckle presentation has been a hoot.
BUT, keep in mind that GAC obviously didn't see it as a hugh money maker or they would have bid it and fought to keep it.
If you all want better coverage let the ADVERTISERS know. Show them support. At the end of the day they are the ones paying for you all to see the show.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | hlynn - 2013-12-10 9:54 PM
Why can't they just webcast it? It can be pay per view, that's fine, but that way I know how wins WHEN it happens, not two hours later. AND NO COMMERCIALS! You wouldn't miss a thing.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | TXBO - 2013-12-11 10:29 AM
I like the job GAC has done but I can't live with non-hd broadcasts for sports anymore.
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I can't even tell the difference in HD and non-HD channels...
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Location: North Dakota | bocephus's mama - 2013-12-11 7:46 AM NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances..... If it's live, I don't know how they can cut any of the events short? When it was on ESPN, it wasn't live so they had a chance to condense it. Wonder what channel that is with DISH? I say that but it's not like I've had a chance to watch the entire rodeo since I've got kids and a job but they're all sitting and waiting on my DVR...
It is currently "live" on GAC but there is a play delay so they can air commercials and show interviews without missing a single performance. I think any other sports station isn't going to take that time and care to make sure everyone has fair air time. They will cut to commercials or interviews while the rodeo is going on and not replay what was missed.
I am super bummed it will not be on GAC anymore. Just a couple days ago I let GAC know much I appreciated their hard work and coverage of the NFR. :(
Also no rodeo will fit into 90 minutes! The average time for a performance with 10-12 riders in each event takes roughly 2 hours and that is LIVE without commercials! |
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Location: Online | mdg - 2013-12-10 9:27 PM I think this is great especially for me since I don't have cable or satellite lol but some of you may be right you may not get the full coverage but I bet with the probably do is put it on like a CBS Sports Network which is still not on like a digital Antenna TV you would still have to have cable or satellite to watch it but hopefully notthis is like Monday Night Football I wish they would bring it back to regular TV just my opinion ladies ya have a good one
It's not going to be on regular CBS. It's going to be on CBS sports network. Channel 158 on Dish network.
I'm with NJJ. Say goodbye to watching every run. It's stupid to move it from GAC. We need to petition for it to stay or something. GAC does a great job. |
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Location: Online | NJJ - 2013-12-11 7:17 AM bocephus's mama - 2013-12-11 7:46 AM NJJ - 2013-12-10 9:49 PM Be prepared to NOT see the entire performances..... If it's live, I don't know how they can cut any of the events short? When it was on ESPN, it wasn't live so they had a chance to condense it. Wonder what channel that is with DISH? I say that but it's not like I've had a chance to watch the entire rodeo since I've got kids and a job but they're all sitting and waiting on my DVR...
And don't forget if there's a basketball or hockey game that goes long. Then it starts 30 minutes late and they condense it even more. We will see 7-8 timed event contestants and most of the barebacks and saddle broncs, and of course all 30 minutes of the bull riding. Priorities. It actually used to make me happy when a bull rider would go out, that always meant we would see one more barrel racer.
Maybe PRCA is doing this because more people are staying home and watching it instead of buying tickets or going to Vegas to watch it in the bars. Doesn't matter than T&M only has 17,000 some seats and they are all sold out a year in advance. |
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Location: Colorado | rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 11:08 AM mdg - 2013-12-10 9:27 PM I think this is great especially for me since I don't have cable or satellite lol but some of you may be right you may not get the full coverage but I bet with the probably do is put it on like a CBS Sports Network which is still not on like a digital Antenna TV you would still have to have cable or satellite to watch it but hopefully notthis is like Monday Night Football I wish they would bring it back to regular TV just my opinion ladies ya have a good one It's not going to be on regular CBS. It's going to be on CBS sports network. Channel 158 on Dish network.
I'm with NJJ. Say goodbye to watching every run. It's stupid to move it from GAC. We need to petition for it to stay or something. GAC does a great job.
We don't know that GAC even wants to continue showing the NFR. They may have decided it was not worth the money they pay to cover it. Keep in mind PRCA was PAYING ESPN for coverage. A really Bad business move.
Sponsors pay the bills. Support the sponsors, let them know you appreciate the advertising money they spend on Rodeo. Keep in mind they are wanting to increase the viewing audience to those beyond just rabid rodeo fans. That is the only way they grow their business and can justify pumping those advertising dollars into the sport.
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Location: Paradise , tx | rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 11:08 AM mdg - 2013-12-10 9:27 PM I think this is great especially for me since I don't have cable or satellite lol but some of you may be right you may not get the full coverage but I bet with the probably do is put it on like a CBS Sports Network which is still not on like a digital Antenna TV you would still have to have cable or satellite to watch it but hopefully notthis is like Monday Night Football I wish they would bring it back to regular TV just my opinion ladies ya have a good one It's not going to be on regular CBS. It's going to be on CBS sports network. Channel 158 on Dish network.
I'm with NJJ. Say goodbye to watching every run. It's stupid to move it from GAC. We need to petition for it to stay or something. GAC does a great job.
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Location: Colorado | BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ...
Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it. |
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Location: North Dakota | graciemay - 2013-12-11 12:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
Yep I saw and interview on RFDTV with the head guy in Vegas and he said the NFR is in Vegas to stay. They love it. It keeps the businesses busy during what is usually a slow time of year for Vegas. |
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Location: NC | graciemay - 2013-12-11 1:25 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ...
Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
But their contact IS up in 2014 with Vegas. I've heard talk of tryin to get it back to Oklahoma City. But then you'd have to rearrange the BFA, which is a lot bigger than the NFR as far as competitors & payout. NFR cashes in on spectators. Which I think most people will follow the NFR no matter where it's held. |
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Location: Washington | Just Bring It - 2013-12-11 10:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 12:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
Every year they say this. It's not leaving anytime soon. Especially now that the World series team roper growing at leaps and bounds. I heard they(South Point) are adding another barn.
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | fatchance - 2013-12-11 12:06 PM Just Bring It - 2013-12-11 10:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 12:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
The Southpoint is building another arena building that will hold 2 arenas side by side that are the same size as the current indoor pen. That should open them up to more events though I think they have 35 plus events a year now. |
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Location: Colorado | hlynn - 2013-12-11 11:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 1:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it. But their contact IS up in 2014 with Vegas. I've heard talk of tryin to get it back to Oklahoma City. But then you'd have to rearrange the BFA, which is a lot bigger than the NFR as far as competitors & payout. NFR cashes in on spectators. Which I think most people will follow the NFR no matter where it's held.
Oklahoma City is not a destination people go to for vacation. Las Vegas is. |
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Location: ND | DesignerShoes - 2013-12-11 12:51 PM I sure HOPE that CBS see's what GAC has done and will work to top it and make it even better? I guess if I was a business person and put in a bid to take on a new project such as the NFR and the other PRCA events they listed in the article........... I would KNOW i had some big boots to fill and I better work my tail off to give the PRCA a reason to stay on board with me - right?
PRCA only cares about the check it's getting....not about the product.........CBS WILL have a much poorer NFR experience for the viewer than GAC...... |
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Location: ND | graciemay - 2013-12-11 1:55 PM hlynn - 2013-12-11 11:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 1:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it. But their contact IS up in 2014 with Vegas. I've heard talk of tryin to get it back to Oklahoma City. But then you'd have to rearrange the BFA, which is a lot bigger than the NFR as far as competitors & payout. NFR cashes in on spectators. Which I think most people will follow the NFR no matter where it's held.
agreed....most people will not follow the NFR anywhere but Vegas......the number of rodeo fans that go to vegas and don't even go to a performance dwarfs the number that actually go, esp when you take out all the tickets that go to competitors and sponsors......the fans certainly aren't going to go to Oklahoma City and find a bar or hotel to sit in and watch the rodeo.......and OKC certainly isn't going to put up the money that Vegas puts up unless it's from T Boone Pickens pocket... |
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Location: Washington | paysonw - 2013-12-11 11:55 AM fatchance - 2013-12-11 12:06 PM Just Bring It - 2013-12-11 10:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 12:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
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Location: Philly | as much as our peers may watch the NFR, wonder what what kind of nielsen rating each perf will get this year.
link to article about 2011 ratings - http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/12/16/wrangler-national-finals-rode...
said 9.8 million viewers - which was for over a 10 night time span (maybe more) as it said "all telecasts"which equates to about the same amount of people that watch dancing with the stars. http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/top10s.html
probably the reason GAC can only get the core sponsors and then the rest are companies like farmersonly.com
yes - i agree with the above - all the barrel racers need to support farmersonly.com and post their profile for proof. |
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Location: Washington | graciemay - 2013-12-11 10:25 AM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
So agree. We never went to the NFR until it moved to Vegas.
Location, location.... LOCATION! |
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| CYA Ranch - 2013-12-11 12:34 AM
I'm worried its not going to be a good thing for the sport of rodeo. Its not going to be on regular CBS but on a CBS Sports channel. I haven't taken the time to see if I get that channel or not.
i don't know if I get it either, so PRCA if you are reading this thread, if I don't already have that channel, I'm not paying extra for it. I watch it in the morning after I DVR it, can't stay up that late. So I will just watch it on youtube. I think GAC has done the best job of all networks that have carried it so far. |
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Location: My Own Little World | I too am concerned about the move to CBS Sports. I have grown to enjoy the coverage on GAC. I understand that the PRCA is trying to grow the fan base of rodeo. That being said, I sure hope they listen to the fans & have guidlines for CBS to follow. Although, if they want to grow their fan base, it will take quite a marketing plan. |
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Location: At the barn | ride n slide - 2013-12-11 2:51 PM
CYA Ranch - 2013-12-11 12:34 AM
I'm worried its not going to be a good thing for the sport of rodeo. Its not going to be on regular CBS but on a CBS Sports channel. I haven't taken the time to see if I get that channel or not.
i don't know if I get it either, so PRCA if you are reading this thread, if I don't already have that channel, I'm not paying extra for it. I watch it in the morning after I DVR it, can't stay up that late. So I will just watch it on youtube. I think GAC has done the best job of all networks that have carried it so far.
I agree. The sports channels could care less because its not some sort of ball. GAC has covered it very well. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I looked last night and I do get the channel. Its DISH 158 CBSSN |
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Location: Beggs, OK | The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff.
Edited by rachellyn80 2013-12-11 3:11 PM
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 3:09 PM The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff.
Thanks for the info! I'm a loser and not on FB or Twitter so I was just going by the article on prorodeo.com.  |
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Location: Online | rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 2:09 PM The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff.
So GAC is still doing their rodeo coverage shows. Doesn't mean the NFR isn't changing networks. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 4:03 PM rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 2:09 PM The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff. So GAC is still doing their rodeo coverage shows. Doesn't mean the NFR isn't changing networks.
Let me clarify...Jeff will still be producing the show that is going to be on CBS Sports just like he is producing the show that is on GAC this year. |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | paysonw - 2013-12-11 1:55 PM fatchance - 2013-12-11 12:06 PM Just Bring It - 2013-12-11 10:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 12:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
well, unless they take out a few parking lots or purchase some land in a different spot... there is nothing around them that I can see where they would put 2 more arenas side by side. South side of South Point across the street is condo/hotel Grandview Resort, north side W. Silverado Ranch Blvd, west is the I-15 freeway and east is the Strip. Unless they take the parking lots behind the hotel where most of the contestants park their rigs- Where oh where are they going to conjure the space? |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 4:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 4:03 PM rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 2:09 PM The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff. So GAC is still doing their rodeo coverage shows. Doesn't mean the NFR isn't changing networks. Let me clarify...Jeff will still be producing the show that is going to be on CBS Sports just like he is producing the show that is on GAC this year.
I smell what your standing in. It shouldn't change because Jeff is still the producer. |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | ride n slide - 2013-12-11 2:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2013-12-11 12:34 AM I'm worried its not going to be a good thing for the sport of rodeo. Its not going to be on regular CBS but on a CBS Sports channel. I haven't taken the time to see if I get that channel or not. i don't know if I get it either, so PRCA if you are reading this thread, if I don't already have that channel, I'm not paying extra for it. I watch it in the morning after I DVR it, can't stay up that late. So I will just watch it on youtube. I think GAC has done the best job of all networks that have carried it so far.
the only problem with youtube is you won't see all the events..... I've been watching rounds of the barrel racing, but can't find anything on team roping, tie down or steer wrestling. Would be nice if someone would tape the whole rodeo and put it on YouTube, but I think that would be an infringement of rights. |
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Location: Stephenville, TX | I would love for them to offer a pay-per-view live webcast of the NFR for those of us who don't have "fancy" TV, don't want to stay up late and don't want to buy a DVD set every year. I'd think that would be a growing market as more people ditch cable and satellite for Netflix, Hulu, etc. Webcast the whole rodeo including the acts. If I was at home, I'd pay to watch live.
I'm not a sports fan so I don't know, but do they offer that for other sports? Or do they force fans to keep cable or satellite to watch the games? |
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | Aqhaczy - 2013-12-11 3:11 PM paysonw - 2013-12-11 1:55 PM fatchance - 2013-12-11 12:06 PM Just Bring It - 2013-12-11 10:32 AM graciemay - 2013-12-11 12:25 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-10 8:48 PM Jerry Jones of the Cowboys was wrangling to get the NFR held in the big Cowboy stadium in Arlington tx ... Never going to happen. Las Vegas is a destination on it's own. NFR brings a lot more people than actually go to the rodeo, and they pay what it takes to keep it.
I would guess they are taking out the parking lots, because it appears to be attached to the current equestrian center. 100,000 square feet would be a little over 2 acres. Land is cheap in that area!  The Priefert Pavillion!
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/south-point-arena-and-equestrian-center-strikes-deal-name-expansion-project |
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Location: Florida.. | as long as it doesnt go all to pay per view. GAC has done great and dish has made it avialable FREE to watch a month.. .. during the NFR I get it anyway but alot didnt.. |
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | I also just read that Vegas has submitted a 10 year proposal to keep the WNFR in town and PRCA is supposed to make a decision in the next 30 days.  |
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Location: Cap'n Lindsey Rotmeat | Well, I guess I won't get to watch because I don't have that channel:( |
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Location: stalking Gail... | A good read regarding the NFR leaving Vegas. I have heard Dalls, TX and also Kissimee, FL (Orlando) are both in the hunt. OKC is not in the picture at all. I hope it stays in Vegas.
http://m.lvsun.com/blogs/kats-report/2013/dec/10/will-wnfr-and-get-all-miss-america-us/ |
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Location: stalking Gail... | A good read regarding the NFR leaving Vegas. I have heard Dalls, TX and also Kissimee, FL (Orlando) are both in the hunt. OKC is not in the picture at all. I hope it stays in Vegas.
http://m.lvsun.com/blogs/kats-report/2013/dec/10/will-wnfr-and-get-all-miss-america-us/ |
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| rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 3:09 PM
The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff.
Well that is good news. Thanks for the info. I have watched all of the performances thus far on GAC & nowhere did I see mention of Jeff or his production company, but I didn't read everything that rolled across the screen. I am not sure how we would have known to look further. With the limited information given in that article posted it left room for speculation. I must have missed mention of Jeff and his production company in the article from the PRCA site about moving to CBS sports. When it switched to GAC, I don't remember mention of Jeff or his company being a part of it then either, but I forget easily. LOL I like Jeff. I knew he had a company just had no idea it had anything to do with the NFR. Since he has been a sportscaster for years since his Tulsa days, I just assumed he was sportscaster only here. |
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Location: Online | rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 3:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 4:03 PM rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 2:09 PM The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff. So GAC is still doing their rodeo coverage shows. Doesn't mean the NFR isn't changing networks. Let me clarify...Jeff will still be producing the show that is going to be on CBS Sports just like he is producing the show that is on GAC this year.
Gotcha. 
I'm still skeptical. CBSSN still airs college basketball games and such. How are they going to guarantee they don't run over on time and we still miss some rodeo? (just a hypothetical question, not directed at anyone personally) |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | If they do run it 'live' and not on a delay, I wish they would consider a split screen format. NASCAR TV does this. For example, interviews, they may show someone on the track on one screen and an interview in the other. During the commercials, sometimes they utilize 'side by side' track action in one screen and the commercial in the other. I've gotten to know a few people who work in the production side of TV and they have told me that sponsors have to be on board with the whole split screen thing and not all of them are. I think if rodeo would consider doing this split screen format, we may not miss as much. I don't know if they will but maybe could give it a try. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 9:58 PM
rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 3:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2013-12-11 4:03 PM rachellyn80 - 2013-12-11 2:09 PM The commentator Jeff Medders owns Geronimo Productions that produces the GAC show for the NFR. He assured us last night that nothing will change. He still has a 3 hour production and you will still see every run of every event.
He's on FB and Twitter. Stop speculating and look further into what's behind the show. It's not GAC...it's Jeff. So GAC is still doing their rodeo coverage shows. Doesn't mean the NFR isn't changing networks. Let me clarify...Jeff will still be producing the show that is going to be on CBS Sports just like he is producing the show that is on GAC this year.
That just is something you can't control with 2 live events going on. I went through the same thing about a month ago. Was waiting for a live race and a live basketball game went into OT. Conflicts happen when it's basketball or football season. |
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