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Honestly I feel his folks should be in jail for a while instead of him...or at least right there with him
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Location: ND | FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — A North Texas teen from an affluent family was sentenced to probation this week after he killed four pedestrians when he lost control of his speeding pickup truck while driving drunk, a punishment that outraged the victims' families and left prosecutors disappointed.
The 16-year-old boy was sentenced Tuesday in a Fort Worth juvenile court to 10 years of probation after he confessed to intoxication manslaughter in the June 15 crash on a dark rural road.
Prosecutors had sought the maximum 20 years in state custody for the Keller teen, but his attorneys appealed to state District Judge Jean Boyd that the teenager needed rehabilitation not prison, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram (http://bit.ly/1f8GnvQ ) reported.
If the boy continues to be cushioned by his family's wealth, another tragedy is inevitable, prosecutor Richard Alpert said in court.
"There can be no doubt that he will be in another courthouse one day blaming the lenient treatment he received here," Alpert said.
Authorities said the teen and friends were seen on surveillance video stealing two cases of beer from a store. He had seven passengers in his Ford F-350, was speeding and had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit, according to testimony during the trial. His pickup truck slammed into the four pedestrians, killing Brian Jennings, a 43-year-old Burleson youth minister; Breanna Mitchell of Lillian, 24; Shelby Boyles, 21; and her 52-year-old mother, Hollie Boyles.
Boyd said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the kind of intensive therapy the teen could receive at a rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif., that was suggested by his defense attorneys. The parents would pick up the tab for the center, at a cost of more than $450,000 a year for treatment.
Scott Brown, the boy's lead defense attorney, said he could have been freed after two years if he had drawn the 20-year sentence.
But instead, the judge "fashioned a sentence that could have him under the thumb of the justice system for the next 10 years," he told the Star-Telegram. |
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read this....explains more |
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Location: California | What a disgrace. Reminds me of the man locally here in California who took out a couple in their very early twenties and their 4 dogs with his car . The 22 year old man died at my Dads hospital from horrific injuries and all 4 dogs were killed. The girlfriend survived but the man was later arrested because he did a hit & run but when he hit a mailbox his bumper was left at the scene . Turns out this was his 3rd DUI!!!
After one , why are they even allowed the chance to mess up again?? So digusting |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | So, I don't have to read all of that, why are his parents rich? Where did they get their money? |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | rodeomom3 - 2013-12-13 10:41 AM The judge needs to be removed from the bench.
This ^^^
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:46 PM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read.....
The story doesn't tell the important stuff like how rich they are or how they make their money. |
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| Apparently, being a spoiled brat is now considered to be a "mitigating circumstance" when you kill people while driving drunk. Sad. :(
Edited by runs4fun 2013-12-13 1:12 PM
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Location: Oz, Kansas | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read.....
It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-13 1:02 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:46 PM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... The story doesn't tell the important stuff like how rich they are or how they make their money.
Well, I'm glad I didn't read all of that for nothing then.....gracious.... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
I'm just wondering how they can afford a $450,000 a year "rehab" facility........and, I, also, wonder if they need another kid...... |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
He could come live with my hubby & I could go live with them. This kid needs some time in juvie so he can see what the real world is like. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
Exactly, I would be the best kid ever......he wrecked an F-350.....do you know what I would do for an F-350??? ANYTHING!!! |
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Location: ND | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
juvie isn't the real world.....juvie is a semi precursor to the real world when you get out and you have nothing and your family has nothing left......then he will get a taste of the real world..... |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-13 12:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
All I can say is karma's a beeotch & she'll always find you. I hope those families take every last penny from that family & they have to struggle to make ends meet & live in a small apt. I sure hope he can't drive for those 10 years.
I have no time or energy for drunk drivers. There's a special place in hell for these kind of people. |
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Location: Texas | I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane.
10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it. |
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Location: Texas | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:23 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. 10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it.
I totally agree. He's an entitled rich kid, who's been coddled and taught he can do no wrong. And if he does do wrong, mommy and daddy will make it so he has no consequences.
I served on a jury this summer and was suprised that the thing pushed the most for punishment was rehabilitation. I'd lock this kid up and let Bubba have his way with him. But if he had been given jail time, I am betting it would be juvie and not actual prison. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:28 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:23 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. 10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it.
I served on a jury this summer and was suprised that the thing pushed the most for punishment was rehabilitation. I'd lock this kid up and let Bubba have his way with him. But if he had been given jail time, I am betting it would be juvie and not actual prison.
I work in the County Atty's office & see these brats all the time. Luckily not to this extent or I would have a hard time restraining myself. Rehab only works if the person wants to fix themselves. Obviously this kid thinks he can do no wrong so I'm sure he thinks if he makes it look like he's getting help them he'll get off. This kid has only been driving for a few years there's no way he'll be able to go 10 years without getting in more trouble.
I also heard that he was caught with an underage girl, who was undressed, & parents paid off the victim & her parents. If the judge is able to make the ruling that he is this way because of bad parenting maybe his parents should be charged too. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too...... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
16 years old.....the parents should be burned too. |
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Location: ND | aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 1:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane.
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Location: ND | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:36 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
well...with an affluenza defense i would think that should make for an easy civil case against the parents.... |
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Location: Texas | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:32 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:28 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:23 PM aggiejudger - 2013-12-13 12:21 PM I think the judge felt that she was making the best decision. Not saying I agree with it. But here is the problem with our system:
- If he recieved the 20 years, given his age, he would serve 2 years and then be paroled. Hw wouldn't receive any therapy, counseling, etc. He would be let out with the same issues and would likely reoffend.
- Giving him 10 years parole and mandating treatment provides him with counseling/therapy. Hopefully, he truly learns his lesson. Also, if he messes up once in the 10 years, back to jail he goes.
Personally, I can think of a lot of better punishments but pretty sure they would be considered cruel and inhumane. 10 years is a long time to be on probation. Once he's an adult & when not if he screws up he can go to jail instead of juvie. I have a feeling big Bubba in jail won't care how much money mommy & daddy have. I just really hope part of his probation is no driving he doesn't deserve it.
I served on a jury this summer and was suprised that the thing pushed the most for punishment was rehabilitation. I'd lock this kid up and let Bubba have his way with him. But if he had been given jail time, I am betting it would be juvie and not actual prison.
I also heard that he was caught with an underage girl, who was undressed, & parents paid off the victim & her parents. If the judge is able to make the ruling that he is this way because of bad parenting maybe his parents should be charged too.
I hope the families of the victims sue the kid and his family.
Only a matter of time before he screws up again. Hopefully, the parents can't buy their way out of it. And even more than that, hope his next screwup doesn't take another life or destroy someone.
The lesson this kid needs won't be learned in rehab. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-13 12:39 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:36 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
I think it would be a slam dunk. 2 of the passengers in his car are sueing him. One has a brain injury & the other had internal injuries. From what I understand they were riding in the back of the truck when he wrecked. |
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Location: ND | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:42 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-13 12:39 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:36 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:35 PM
How old was he at the time of the accident? I'm thinking if they use the affluenza defense then his parents should be held accountable too......
they should not be able to sue for anything.... |
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Location: California | What is the point of rehab with this kid?
He is 16 years old . No job . No income.
Cut off his finances , stop enabling him .
Going through rehab without wanting to go through rehab is a waste of time and money. The structure is set up to help guide you through self improvement and in order to do that you have to want to change. You have to want to take a deep look into your life and deal with the hard stuff .
Kid needs to go through the system and get man handled a bit . He KILLED people.
When he gets done with a jail sentence he will either want to act like a human or he will end up back in the system. Mommy and Daddy's money can't protect him in jail.
Ten years is a long probation period , this kid is inevitably screw up again and get what he deserves. |
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Location: ND | F Bar - 2013-12-13 1:53 PM What is the point of rehab with this kid?
He is 16 years old . No job . No income.
Cut off his finances , stop enabling him .
Going through rehab without wanting to go through rehab is a waste of time and money. The structure is set up to help guide you through self improvement and in order to do that you have to want to change. You have to want to take a deep look into your life and deal with the hard stuff .
Kid needs to go through the system and get man handled a bit . He KILLED people.
When he gets done with a jail sentence he will either want to act like a human or he will end up back in the system. Mommy and Daddy's money can't protect him in jail.
Ten years is a long probation period , this kid is inevitably screw up again and get what he deserves.
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Location: Oz, Kansas | This is even worse. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Teen-Admits-Guilt-in-Drunken-Driving-Crash-That-Killed-Four-234477461.html |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Money talks and I'm sure many people got their palms greased with it..
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Location: Oz, Kansas | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-13 1:18 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
From the last article I read he has to stay in juvie until he is transported to treatment is isn't able to stay with his family so at least the judge did see that the parents have no control of this kid as long as he's in their care. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-13 2:18 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 2:37 PM CYA Ranch - 2013-12-13 2:18 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | It is horrible when you read the details of the accident......one broken car, 3 good samaritan's, a truck full of teenager's, one rich, super drunk, spoiled kid.....all being at that exact place, at that exact time...... |
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Location: Midwest | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 2:37 PM CYA Ranch - 2013-12-13 2:18 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 1:12 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:10 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 12:07 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 1:05 PM LRQHS - 2013-12-13 11:46 AM Come on.....somebody read for me......my stomach is full and I'm too sleepy to read..... It doesn't say but from what I understand this isn't the first time his parents have bought off witnesses & victims from his wrong doing.
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Location: Oz, Kansas | barrelracr131 - 2013-12-13 2:00 PM After reading the second article...it sounds like his parents should be right in jail with this brat
I think so too. I also think this opens them up for being liable in any civil case. One of the boys riding in the back of the truck will never be normal again from his brain injury. From what I understand he will never be able to talk, walk, eat or anything else his only way to respond is by blinking. I also don't know why all 7 kids needed to go with the girls to get hygience products. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lookout hill - 2013-12-13 3:04 PM barrelracr131 - 2013-12-13 2:00 PM After reading the second article...it sounds like his parents should be right in jail with this brat I think so too. I also think this opens them up for being liable in any civil case. One of the boys riding in the back of the truck will never be normal again from his brain injury. From what I understand he will never be able to talk, walk, eat or anything else his only way to respond is by blinking. I also don't know why all 7 kids needed to go with the girls to get hygience products.
Right! I need some tampons, you guys coming? There's not enough room in the front, y'all are going to have to get in the back.......oh, yeah, and the drunkest guy of all, that's been shooting Everclear is going to drive........ |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | LRQHS - 2013-12-13 2:09 PM lookout hill - 2013-12-13 3:04 PM barrelracr131 - 2013-12-13 2:00 PM After reading the second article...it sounds like his parents should be right in jail with this brat I think so too. I also think this opens them up for being liable in any civil case. One of the boys riding in the back of the truck will never be normal again from his brain injury. From what I understand he will never be able to talk, walk, eat or anything else his only way to respond is by blinking. I also don't know why all 7 kids needed to go with the girls to get hygience products.
The girl said she hadn't had anything to drink. And that little punk walked away after the accident he was found 1/2 mile away passed out with minor injuries. |
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